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[War on Want]

Also if we can create parties I would like to create the Liberal Party and become its head. If people are interested I can type basic stuff about it.

[Хahar 🤔]

Also if we can create parties I would like to create the Liberal Party and become its head. If people are interested I can type basic stuff about it.

I think the parties will form more organically.
Afleitch, any ideas for restaurants around town? In the Frankfurt parliament, ideological groupings were named for their meetingplaces.

[afleitch]

Afleitch, any ideas for restaurants around town? In the Frankfurt parliament, ideological groupings were named for their meetingplaces.

I quite like that idea.

Also kudos to Al's map. I'm going to do one myself

[afleitch]

Any parties formed would probably be formed around on of 3 blocs, Christian Democrats (with as little Jay-sus as possible, with a few homourable exceptions), Socialists/Social Democrats (stable) and Liberals (of the European kind) Throw in some fringe parties, Greens and Fortuynists.

But if we have thee Liberal Parties for exampled remember to work together and vote together

[Хahar 🤔]

Any parties formed would probably be formed around on of 3 blocs, Christian Democrats (with as little Jay-sus as possible, with a few homourable exceptions), Socialists/Social Democrats (stable) and Liberals (of the European kind) Throw in some fringe parties, Greens and Fortuynists.

But if we have thee Liberal Parties for exampled remember to work together and vote together

We should let them form organically, I think.
Still waiting on that map...

[afleitch]

Still waiting on that map...

I didn't see the point on anythinf more detailed. The black lines are the provinces (the city is self governing) and the grey lines are the boundaries of selected urban gemeenten

[Хahar 🤔]

I can definitely see a collaboration between the working-class Wards IV-VII and XIV-XIX and the cities downriver.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

I can definitely see a collaboration between the working-class Wards IV-VII and XIV-XIX and the cities downriver.

Maybe, maybe not.  I imagine the community just downstream on the left bank would like to see the blue metro line extended out to them for easier access to Olympische Stadion if nothing else, but Oudedokken does not fondly recall the last few times we had major construction going on, so expect me to be pro-services, anti-construction in outlook.  My ward doesn't need any more white elephants, thank you very much.

[War on Want]

I think that Swellendam's zone would be for lots of exburban/suburban developments along the stream and lake. Would anybody be willing to push for this?

[2952-0-0]

Right now many of my constituents, especially in the less wealthy northern parts, complain about the lack of public transportation links; Westerpark also needs better tram (assuming this is based on Antwerp or Brussels) services if we're to promote more business there.

Most of the poorer suburbs are lacking in rapid transit lines, and if we're to decrease pollution and congestion on the ring road (not to mention hedge against fuel inflation), we need to improve public transportation links with the suburbs outside of do we have the name of the city?! boundaries.

On the other hand, I recognize that we are short of funds to build every metro line on the table. We need something different, and I've drafted a proposal to bring rapid transit service throughout the Greater City Area in a more cost-effective manner. In addition, the entire council will need to reach a consensus; instead of bickering about your metro or my bus service, we need to think about our network. As always, this will be subject to debate by City Council.

The first thing we can do is utilize our existing railway infrastructure to build a suburban railway system; just look to the Paris system as a reference. We'll call it the Stedenbaan (Yes, it's a real system in the Netherlands).



Key:
Red = Stedenbaan routes
Turquoise = railways not used by Stedenbaan
Brown spots = central stations
Purple = central railway tunnel linking two stations, requires national govt funding since intercity trains will benefit

(I assume since this is based on Belgium, a country with dense railway networks, all the rights of way exist)

The northern parts of the Green Metro Line would be converted to Stedenbaan, but the quality of service will remain. This is not a downsizing of service. Look to the Paris suburban system for a reference.

All those services to the suburbs should address the rapid transit needs to the suburbs, though the metro system needs to serve the core more thoroughly (particularly the CBD on the right bank). Therefore the Green line would be extended across the river and bend along with it towards the southern station.


Red indicates Stedenbaan tracks.

Finally, all bus and tram routes will be improved, and no one should wait more than ten minutes for any surface transit route (stealing terminology from Toronto) for 18 hours each day.

I am willing to work with other councillors and the national government to deliver a network of reliable public transportation services, and my proposal (exact details to be determined) will deliver more kilometres of rapid transit for less.

[afleitch]

Mr A. Cleymans

There isn't a hope in hell of an RER style mass transit system 'ring' ploughing through Duikersheuvel unless you are prepared to run it underground, or at least through a 'cut and cover' scheme at significant cost. Duikersheuvel was not given to the city simply to be used as 'free' land for a transport hub. I am however pleased with your plan for re-configuration of the Metro. Any reconfiguration of Metro lines pre and post extension must also ensure that Duikersheuvel maintains a direct link to the heart of the city via the Oranj Lijn. Your plan recognises this.

Outburst aside...the prevailance of bus routes connecting the west of the city beyond the ringroad is entirely unnacceptable and these can often be brought to a standstill at rush hour. I am supportive of any attempt to extend the Metro in such a direction if it is seen as cost effective to do so. Duikersheuvel is of course the 'end of the line' for the Metro and there is little need to extend it further from that stub.

Furthermore I agree that we must work to extend links beyond the city boundary. A southern tram network, the Zuidtram connecting the city beyond the ring road and running lines to neighbouring towns (alongside key connecting lines to the centre of the city) could be an option. I will draft proposals for consideration at a later date. The cost would be split between ourselves and our neighbours as they would receive as much benefit from the link as our own suburbs.

[Хahar 🤔]

The name of the city is Kolinsjatohaven.

Huutwort is completely and utterly opposed to any Southern line.

[Colin]

The name of the city is Kolinsjatohaven.

When did we decide on that?

The name is too damn long, too too damn long. It might be an okay length for native Dutch speakers but for an Anglophone like myself it's just rediculous.

How about you just take out the jato? Kolinshaven, nice, simpler, short, sounds less artificial.

[Хahar 🤔]

The name of the city is Kolinsjatohaven.

When did we decide on that?

The name is too damn long, too too damn long. It might be an okay length for native Dutch speakers but for an Anglophone like myself it's just rediculous.

How about you just take out the jato? Kolinshaven, nice, simpler, short, sounds less artificial.

It says it on the front page. I also came up with an English exonym, Coleshill.

Besides, it's named after you.

[afleitch]

What about Kolshaven?

[Colin]

What about Kolshaven?

I like it better, it's nice.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Coleshill.

In real life a rather dull Birmingham commuter town!

[Хahar 🤔]

Coleshill.

In real life a rather dull Birmingham commuter town!

And a small village in Buckinghamshire!

[Hash]

I - Twee Banken-Centrum (Deux-Rives/Centre or Two Banks-Centre)

Centrum is the heart of the city and has always been the historical centre of the city since its foundation. The river flows through the city, leaving the island of [insert name here] in the middle of the river. Almost all the buildings in the city are pre-1800s, but most were restored in the 20th century. The townhall is located in the busy Main Square, a large central plaza surrounded with shops, restaurants, government offices, and cafes.
The arrondissement, with its very high prices, is overall middle class.



[Sue me. It's the Hotel de Ville of Paris, but it looks good.]

[Left-Wing Blogger]

I call XV. Forget the fact that I came out of nowhere.

It shall be dubbed...Koolheuven.

[Verily]

I must emphatically disagree with the plans alid out by the honorable gentleman from Slotervaart. His plan, while certainly comprehensive and perhaps desirable on a long-term basis, is far too expensive for the city to undertake in the short term. Moreover, it creates redundant transportation connections where they are unnecessary and does not fix the problem he himself brings to our attention, the isolation of the outer boroughs from the inner city through a lack of public transport. Instead, it simply connects the outskirts together in a loop of ineffectiveness.

I have outlined an alternative to his plan below. It is most reasonable for us to maintain our focus on the maintenance and expansion of the Metro system at this time. The Metro currently possesses two key weaknesses: It does not connect the southern and western outer boroughs to the city center, and it isolates the airport from travelers by train. The plan below seeks to solve both problems through the creation of a completely new Metro line (in an ambitious long-term project) as well as the completion of the essential Green Line loop.

The new Yellow Line will provide a direct connection between the primary downtown train station and the airport with the added benefit of providing further connectivity to Slotervaart.  As an alternative to the previous Purple Line extension plan, it excels. It does not require the construction of a new station in the historic city center, it connects important pieces in the transportation network, and it offers service to the same areas which would have benefited from the Purple Line extension.

In addition, the Yellow Line will extend far into areas lacking service in the southern half of the city. It augments the Purple and Orange Lines without making any individual section redundant, and it provides the opportunity for easy transport both between the southern boroughs and from the southern boroughs into the city center. It is more comprehensive than the proposed Orange Line extension and it prevents the splitting of the Orange Line.


I present to you a plan for the future of the Metro:



(Note: the proposal has changed slightly from its original form. I was looking at what I posted and realized a much more elegant solution.)

[Хahar 🤔]

Huutwort is profoundy opposed to the construction of the Red Yellow Line.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

People in the various communities that make up the Zwarte Vallei have long memories. We remember what happend when the motorway was built; how, to pick the worst examples, a quarter of the Sombergebied Estate, about a fifth of the town of Ruwestad and the entire village of Weinigsteen were demolished without the consent of their inhabitants. The destruction of Weinigsteen was especially pointless as the motorway doesn't even run that close to where it once stood. So where there was once a small community there is now a large field.

Anyway... two things to note about the metro extension plans for the area...

1. They would require the closure of the Rivieroever Colliery, a major source of employment in the town of Donkerestroom.

2. There are rather a lot of old mine shafts, many of which are actually flooded, in the area. Plenty of other geological and etc. problems related to our industrial past, and present, exist as well.

[Verily]

1. They would require the closure of the Rivieroever Colliery, a major source of employment in the town of Donkerestroom.

2. There are rather a lot of old mine shafts, many of which are actually flooded, in the area. Plenty of other geological and etc. problems related to our industrial past, and present, exist as well.

Under a plan for the Metro as I have laid out, the construction of the southern segment of the Yellow Line would take place last, beginning in 2014 and reaching completion in 2016. This will allow us a great deal of time to conduct geological surveys of the area as well as to consider various alternatives for stations that would not interfere so greatly with the local economy. I am sure you would agree that, in principle, the extension of the Metro to the Zwarte Vallei would be a good thing, and therefore we must work to mitigate any problems it might be associated with. Of course, if the safety and integrity of any path through the area would be compromised by unsafe geology, the current plan for the southern section might be relocated or redesigned.

Edit: Here is a proposed timeline for construction.

[Sam Spade]

I can support construction of the yellow line, but only if-

1) Completion of the green line takes place before completion of the yellow line.

2) The stop of the Metro green line on the edge of Vliegveld is moved slightly across the border to Nieuwedokken (or the territory where the stop is is annexed by Nieuwedooken or made an international safe zone).

My poorer (in relative terms) constituents don't like going across the border to Vliegveld because the residents of that arrondisement are always trying to steal their cake and smile way too f-ing much.

3) Some bribes please...