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« Reply #375 on: October 28, 2008, 08:45:49 PM »

My Dad ended a phone call with me today with, "Rossi - GOP in Washington." Pretty random considering he wasn't told of my interest. Then again, my Dad was obsessed with Rossi/the recount fiasco in 2004 (as well as the loss of Tom Daschle).

The movement is spreading...
Nothing has ever been more satisfying to me in politics than the defeat of Tom Daschle
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« Reply #376 on: October 28, 2008, 09:26:29 PM »
« Edited: October 28, 2008, 09:32:32 PM by Ogre Mage »

Many of us were equally satisfied with the defeat of Rick Santorum in 2006.

I was and still am angry about a certain fiasco in Florida in 2000.  It was an election which actually impacted me and the consequences for our nation turned out to be disastrous.
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« Reply #377 on: October 28, 2008, 09:34:10 PM »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-t6YRbHcyQ

Not something you want in the last week of a close race...
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« Reply #378 on: October 28, 2008, 09:45:12 PM »

Many of us were equally satisfied with the defeat of Rick Santorum in 2006.


Good for you.
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« Reply #379 on: October 29, 2008, 12:17:37 AM »

SUSA says Gregoire up 2: http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=bde668c1-54fa-4303-89aa-7d69ad6e91a0

Strategic Vision agrees: http://strategicvision.biz/political/washington_poll_102908.htm
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« Reply #380 on: October 29, 2008, 01:23:29 AM »

Sutherland only up by 2 as well Smiley
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« Reply #381 on: October 29, 2008, 12:27:21 PM »

Seattle Times endorsed McCraw. I'm starting to worry a little about Owen...
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« Reply #382 on: October 29, 2008, 01:37:11 PM »

Seattle Times endorsed McCraw. I'm starting to worry a little about Owen...

Based on what the Lt. Governor actually does, McCraw would probably be further to the left than Owen...unless she became Gov, then different story.  I doubt it will be competitive, but I do think it will be closer than expected.  Still, Owen was just totally crushing her in a previous poll, so...

Bergeson/Dorn voters don't seem to have much political correlation (other than far-righters for Dorn as an anti-Bergeson vote maybe) but it does sure have another:  the less establishment (in candidate, and vote frequency, speed and turnout, too), the much more likely a Dorn vote.

I find it interesting how awful McKenna is crushing Ladenburg (I expected that to tighten), and that Dorn seems to be polling ahead in several polls now.  Also kind of happy to see I-985 sucking, although I think initiative polling is always a dangerous game.  Wish there were a State Treaz poll.
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« Reply #383 on: October 29, 2008, 02:42:06 PM »

Seattle Times endorsed McCraw. I'm starting to worry a little about Owen...

The Times is a GOP rag.

I like Owen just fine. McCraw isn't ready to be Governor. Owen will do well in areas that other Democrats don't, which will make up for poor numbers in Seattle. I don't think he has a ton to worry about.

I saw a McKenna commercial today. Seems like a waste of money unless he's planning a run for Governor, which is probably the case.
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« Reply #384 on: October 29, 2008, 10:23:31 PM »

My Dad ended a phone call with me today with, "Rossi - GOP in Washington." Pretty random considering he wasn't told of my interest. Then again, my Dad was obsessed with Rossi/the recount fiasco in 2004 (as well as the loss of Tom Daschle).

The movement is spreading...

You have given me a new found energy to work against Rossi. Thank you.

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I don't know if that was serious or not but if it was, that says a lot about you. I don't even know you and you really don't know me (I can't think of many times when we've ever interacted) but I'm your motivation against a candidate? Sad.

It is bad that I am motivated to work harder because I want to stop a person I see as incompetant getting a national following and thus a national influence? Rossi is already scandal-ridden, I don't see why he even deserves the chance to lead when already he has failed America trying to get there.
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« Reply #385 on: October 30, 2008, 12:18:22 AM »

My Dad ended a phone call with me today with, "Rossi - GOP in Washington." Pretty random considering he wasn't told of my interest. Then again, my Dad was obsessed with Rossi/the recount fiasco in 2004 (as well as the loss of Tom Daschle).

The movement is spreading...

You have given me a new found energy to work against Rossi. Thank you.

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I don't know if that was serious or not but if it was, that says a lot about you. I don't even know you and you really don't know me (I can't think of many times when we've ever interacted) but I'm your motivation against a candidate? Sad.

It is bad that I am motivated to work harder because I want to stop a person I see as incompetant getting a national following and thus a national influence? Rossi is already scandal-ridden, I don't see why he even deserves the chance to lead when already he has failed America trying to get there.

It just warms my heart that you guys resort to calling people that you don't like "incompetent" (look up the spelling next time you want to throw that one around). You guys just love throwing insults around rather loosely.
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« Reply #386 on: October 30, 2008, 12:25:12 AM »


Nice try.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/editorialsopinion/2008328186_edit30rossi.html

Now, Gregoire and her casino dealings, on the other hand.
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« Reply #387 on: October 30, 2008, 12:38:21 AM »


Your evidence is an editorial from the Seattle Times?

Wow
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« Reply #388 on: October 30, 2008, 01:01:55 AM »

Post-Intelligencer does not paint a whole lot rosier picture:

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/385589_rossi30.html
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« Reply #389 on: October 30, 2008, 07:04:53 AM »

Nowhere else in the world, outside of the state itself, are people so obsessed with Washington politics.
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« Reply #390 on: October 31, 2008, 11:13:41 PM »

How is Proposition 1 (aka, Sound Transit expansion) faring in the polls right now? 
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« Reply #391 on: November 01, 2008, 04:05:30 PM »

How is Proposition 1 (aka, Sound Transit expansion) faring in the polls right now? 

Generally passing, but we haven't had a reliable one in a while.

Now, confirmation that Gregoire has a youth problem:  Rossi leads 51% to 49% among K-12 students.  Obama is ahead 61% to 33%.  (Tongue)
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« Reply #392 on: November 01, 2008, 04:53:20 PM »

"Initiative Measure No. 975 concerns vegetables"

omg adorable


ahahahahaha, Jason Osgood at 49.8%!


SPI decided by 4 votes. Oh sh*t, speaking of that... I totally forgot to vote on it!! I just put my ballot in the mail today, too. I told myself I would decide on that later and completely forgot. Oh well, I was having trouble deciding anyway. Tongue
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« Reply #393 on: November 01, 2008, 07:51:15 PM »
« Edited: November 01, 2008, 07:53:25 PM by Alcon »

The second wave of the UW poll is out.  It has only 387 respondents so it sucks, but a much better poll for the GOP.

Obama 51% (-4)
McCain 39% (+5)

Gregoire 50% (-1)
Rossi 48% (+3)

I-985:
Yes 40% (-5)
No 55% (+12)

I-1000:
Yes 53% (-3)
No 48% (+5)

I-1029:
Yes 60% (-5)
No 26% (+6)

Proposition 1 (which must have a hilariously insane MoE):

Yes 41% (-9)
No 49% (+6)

My guess is that combining the two polls gets you one, mediocre one of 987 RV's:

Obama 53%
McCain 36%
Other 5%

Gregoire 51%
Rossi 46%

I-985:
Yes 43%
No 48%

I-1000:
Yes 55%
No 40%

I-1029:
Yes 63%
No 22%

Prop. 1 (still ridiculous MoE):

Yes 46%
No 45%

Btw, GOP is closing the balloting gap here, unlike Oregon.  My bet is now that we'll be closer Presidentially then.
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« Reply #394 on: November 01, 2008, 10:42:48 PM »

Btw, GOP is closing the balloting gap here, unlike Oregon.  My bet is now that we'll be closer Presidentially then.

Huzzah!
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« Reply #395 on: November 03, 2008, 09:24:19 PM »

FYI - Due to the Pierce County RCV experimentation, the results will look like this for Gubernatorial results

8:30 PM PST - Absentee votes that have been received though the evening of 11/3 (about 55% of the total vote)

3:00 AM PST - Poll votes

6:00 AM PST and every three hours after that - More absentee and poll votes


And then the RCV algorithm will be released at 11:30 PM, for anyone interested in seeing how that goes
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« Reply #396 on: November 03, 2008, 10:24:33 PM »
« Edited: November 03, 2008, 10:27:08 PM by Alcon »

New SUSA:

Obama 56% (nc)
McCain 40% (+1)
Early: Obama +19

Gregoire 52% (+2)
Rossi 46% (-2)
Early: Gregoire +8

McKenna 59% (+2)
Ladenburg 36% (nc)
Early: McKenna +23

Dorn 45% (+2)
Bergeson 37% (-1)
Early: Dorn +7

Sutherland 48% (+2)
Goldmark 42% (-1)
Early: Sutherland +5

I-985 (Congestion)
No 45% (+3)
Yes 33% (+4)
Early: No +13

I-1000 (Death with Dignity)
Yes 55% (+1)
No 40% (+3)
Early: Yes +19

AG was really the race that didn't happen this year.  Wish they polled State Treasurer instead.

Nice how 15% of those who have already voted are undecided on I-985.
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« Reply #397 on: November 03, 2008, 11:11:48 PM »

Ladenburg's kind of a douchebag, so whatever. We'll have to deal with McKenna in 2012 though.
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« Reply #398 on: November 03, 2008, 11:49:36 PM »

Ladenburg's kind of a douchebag, so whatever. We'll have to deal with McKenna in 2012 though.
Thats the main reason I voted for Ladenburg.
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« Reply #399 on: November 05, 2008, 01:44:53 AM »

Looks like Gregoire wins.
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