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« Reply #300 on: September 27, 2008, 03:36:49 AM »

and the Democrats' lawsuit was laughed out of court.

I really feel bad for all of the local Dem officials who had to pretend that wasn't the bullsh**ttiest bullsh**t in the history of bullsh**t.

Fortunately for us, the Average Joe seemed to be under the impression that there was at least some sort of legal basis for it (why else would it have been filed, right? They wouldn't just file something without any facts to back it up!)

The underlying goal, however, was to get the general public more aware that GOP=Republican, so they kind of succeeded in that sense. It didn't really get that much coverage though, what with the crazy national events going on.
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« Reply #301 on: September 28, 2008, 08:17:04 PM »

SUSA polls the SPI and AG races:

Dorn: 40%
Bergeson: 35%
Other: 7% (WTF?)
Undecided: 18%

McKenna: 53%
Ladenburg: 39%
Undecided: 8%

I'm surprised to see Dorn doing so well, but I'm also skeptical of the poll's accuracy...
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« Reply #302 on: September 30, 2008, 05:20:32 PM »

Gregoire actually had a good ad on the radio today! Smiley
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« Reply #303 on: September 30, 2008, 06:51:20 PM »

Gregoire actually had a good ad on the radio today! Smiley

Was it the one about Rossi praying for Bush's economic plan?
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« Reply #304 on: September 30, 2008, 08:35:31 PM »

^ Yes. She needs a TV version of it. Not only does it "take advantage" (doesn't seem like the right term, but whatever) of the current economic situation, it subtly reminds voters that Rossi is a Craswell type that mixes religion with government.
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« Reply #305 on: September 30, 2008, 09:12:33 PM »

Hopefully she can capitalize on the BIAW stuff that came out today. I'm not holding my breath though.
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« Reply #306 on: October 03, 2008, 05:27:30 PM »

Yea, I'm pretty sure the field would clear for McKenna rather quickly as well, but never underestimate the clusterf**ck that is the WSRP.

It doesn't seem as if McKenna is interested in winning his party's 2012 nomination for governor.
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« Reply #307 on: October 03, 2008, 06:07:07 PM »

Yea, I'm pretty sure the field would clear for McKenna rather quickly as well, but never underestimate the clusterf**ck that is the WSRP.

It doesn't seem as if McKenna is interested in winning his party's 2012 nomination for governor.

Or, alternatively, is very interested in winning the 2012 General Election.

Rossi losing ain't necessarily bad news for him, and few Republicans are probably going to care about that linked thing.
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« Reply #308 on: October 13, 2008, 08:56:31 PM »

What's the latest news on this race?  I know it's been considered the most heated election this year.
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« Reply #309 on: October 13, 2008, 09:06:14 PM »

What's the latest news on this race?  I know it's been considered the most heated election this year.

For most of the race Rossi has dominated in the media. Finaly Gregoire is on the air. I fear it will be too little too late though.
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« Reply #310 on: October 14, 2008, 05:52:26 PM »

Someone asked me to send them Secretary of State Massacre results a bit back, but I honestly forget who.  So, I'm posting them here.

Here are the towns Osgood carried:

1. Nespelem, Okanogan County: 59-24 Osgood
2. Bingen, Klickitat County: 63-28 Osgood
3. Mabton, Yakima County: 59-29 Osgood
4. Port Townsend, Jefferson County: 56-37 Osgood
5. Wilkeson, Pierce County: 48-40 Osgood
6. Ruston, Pierce County: 51-44 Osgood
7. Langley, Island County: 50-43 Osgood
8. Wapato, Yakima County: 48-41 Osgood
9. Index, Snohomish County: 47-43 Osgood
10. La Conner, Skagit County: 48-45 Osgood
11. White Salmon, Klickitat County: 49-47 Osgood
12. Toppenish, Yakima County: 45-44 Osgood
13. Elmer City, Okanogan County: 45-44 Osgood
14. Granger, Yakima County: 44-43 Osgood

Basically:

Ethnic villages - Hispanic (3, 8, 12, 14) and Native American (1)

Working-class areas with Dem heritage - 2, 5, 6, 11 (Osgood did semi-OK in this type of place, yay straight ticket voting)

Hippieland - 4, 7, 10

<5% margins in Bainbridge Island, Bellingham, Coulee Dam, Kelso, Roslyn, Seattle, Skykomish and Winthrop.  Latah also counts, at 41-37, but the 37% is Montgomery (Osgood didn't break 20%)

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« Reply #311 on: October 14, 2008, 06:01:53 PM »

How many votes were there in Latah?
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« Reply #312 on: October 14, 2008, 08:38:01 PM »
« Edited: October 14, 2008, 08:47:29 PM by Alcon »


46 - Reed 19, Montgomery 17, Osgood 9, Greene 1

Osgood also placed third in the towns of George (43 votes), Lamont (63 including surrounding rural) and Waverly (25).

He won all congressional districts (the 7th was 49-46), and all LDs but the 37th.

Relatedly, these results really make it clear where Gregoire's hurting.  Osgood actually overperformed Gregoire in nine towns -- Almira, Hamilton, Kettle Falls, Mesa, Northport, Riverside, Roy, Wilkeson.  Of those, only Kettle Falls had more than 100 voters (383).  Still, more dangerously, there were a lot of places where Gregoire just barely outperformed Osgood, including parts of the Cowlitz, the Yakima Valley, the basin land of Central Washington, etc.  Unlike those little towns, those places have population and also are microcosms of really important demographics.

Her 2004 problem with affluent suburbanites has turned to a problem with culturally conservative small-town voters (and Hispanics), including some normally straight-ticket ones.  This is why I personally think the stem cell ads were dumb -- that type of voter is really, really queasy about cultural issues.  Cowlitz County specifically h8s anything that could possibly be construed as abortion/suicide/whatever

I know she's trying to pad her margins in the suburbs, but I think that was a disasterous way of doing it.  My two cents.
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« Reply #313 on: October 15, 2008, 02:44:11 AM »

I can assure you that everything you're saying is 100% correct in regards to targeting and advertising. You alone easily possess more knowledge in this regard than the entire Gregoire campaign combined.
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« Reply #314 on: October 17, 2008, 12:00:57 AM »

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/vote2008/july-dec08/wa_gov_10-16.html

Gregoire (clearly French) is attacking Rossi for being Italian? Gregoire embodies so much that I hate and Rossi embodies so much that I love.  Smiley
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« Reply #315 on: October 17, 2008, 01:18:37 AM »

Gregoire never actually, um, what's the word... did that. The State Party put up a movie attacking Rossi's connections to the BIAW which vaguely parodied The Sopranos.

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« Reply #316 on: October 18, 2008, 06:39:44 AM »

Some one has this in their sig;



How dreadfully, awfully 1950's can you get... I mean... urgh...
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« Reply #317 on: October 18, 2008, 10:01:20 AM »

Some one has this in their sig;



How dreadfully, awfully 1950's can you get... I mean... urgh...

Torie has it in his signature.

I don't get what's 1950s about it. Is it the name "Dino" in handwriting? Maybe because he's sitting at a diner counter...? Other than that, I don't see it.

Al is just one of many that fears the power of Dino.  Wink
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« Reply #318 on: October 18, 2008, 10:37:49 AM »

Some one has this in their sig;



How dreadfully, awfully 1950's can you get... I mean... urgh...

Hi!  Smiley

Keystone, stop confusing me and Torie.  Tongue
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« Reply #319 on: October 18, 2008, 10:38:04 AM »

Some one has this in their sig;



How dreadfully, awfully 1950's can you get... I mean... urgh...

Torie has it in his signature.

I don't get what's 1950s about it. Is it the name "Dino" in handwriting? Maybe because he's sitting at a diner counter...? Other than that, I don't see it.

Al is just one of many that fears the power of Dino.  Wink

I think it's the Mr. Rogers haircut.
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« Reply #320 on: October 18, 2008, 02:20:57 PM »

Some one has this in their sig;



How dreadfully, awfully 1950's can you get... I mean... urgh...

Hi!  Smiley

Keystone, stop confusing me and Torie.  Tongue

Ah! Sorry!  Smiley

Some one has this in their sig;



How dreadfully, awfully 1950's can you get... I mean... urgh...

Torie has it in his signature.

I don't get what's 1950s about it. Is it the name "Dino" in handwriting? Maybe because he's sitting at a diner counter...? Other than that, I don't see it.

Al is just one of many that fears the power of Dino.  Wink

I think it's the Mr. Rogers haircut.

...that many people in politics have.  Tongue
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« Reply #321 on: October 18, 2008, 02:58:23 PM »

Dino should stick to his Adolf cut.  It's appropriate for him.

Anyway, I've decided I'm probably going to vote for Osgood. Sam Ree(tar)d is just such a piece of sh*t and write-ins aren't as fun.
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« Reply #322 on: October 18, 2008, 03:14:54 PM »

I don't get what's 1950s about it. Is it the name "Dino" in handwriting? Maybe because he's sitting at a diner counter...? Other than that, I don't see it.

The haircut is one thing, obviously. So is the setting, so is the shirt (though there's no tie). But there's more to it than that; the typefaces seem very fifties (as does the colour of the lettering) and so do the colours in the photograph.
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« Reply #323 on: October 18, 2008, 03:22:10 PM »

I don't get what's 1950s about it. Is it the name "Dino" in handwriting? Maybe because he's sitting at a diner counter...? Other than that, I don't see it.

The haircut is one thing, obviously. So is the setting, so is the shirt (though there's no tie). But there's more to it than that; the typefaces seem very fifties (as does the colour of the lettering) and so do the colours in the photograph.

The shirt looks normal to me. I wasn't aware that the color yellow (color of the typeface) and the color of the photo were '50s-esque.  Tongue

But hey, if this is the best that you can throw at Dino...   Tongue
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« Reply #324 on: October 19, 2008, 04:23:32 AM »

I don't get what's 1950s about it. Is it the name "Dino" in handwriting? Maybe because he's sitting at a diner counter...? Other than that, I don't see it.

The haircut is one thing, obviously. So is the setting, so is the shirt (though there's no tie). But there's more to it than that; the typefaces seem very fifties (as does the colour of the lettering) and so do the colours in the photograph.

The shirt looks normal to me. I wasn't aware that the color yellow (color of the typeface) and the color of the photo were '50s-esque.  Tongue

But hey, if this is the best that you can throw at Dino...   Tongue

Ok, how about the facts that:
1) He really knows nothing about how to run a state governement
2) Has not put out very many concrete plans
3) The plans he has outlined are seen as being unrealistic and slow-witted
4) He is horribly desperate to get the governorship (Hillary's desire for the presidency is nothing compared to Dino's want for the governorship, I think he would sell his children off if it came down to it).
5) What has he done over the past four years to be constructive and help the state? Not much, instead he has been giving "informational" speeches (of course he wouldn't campaign)
6) Tries to portray himself as a moderate eventhough its obvious he isn't

The list goes on and on...
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