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« Reply #25 on: January 25, 2010, 01:27:48 PM »

probably Florida
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« Reply #26 on: January 25, 2010, 04:06:00 PM »

I would have to say NC or VA.  I don't see why people are saying Florida, they really aren't that Liberal at all. I mean they don't even have a sales tax.
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« Reply #27 on: January 25, 2010, 04:27:04 PM »

I would have to say NC or VA.  I don't see why people are saying Florida, they really aren't that Liberal at all. I mean they don't even have a sales tax.

Please go learn the meaning of "liberal".
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« Reply #28 on: January 25, 2010, 06:25:00 PM »

Ok I used this link here to do this with. What I did is took the Senators and Congressperson from each state added their scores together and divided by the number there were and gave that number the score for the state, since they elect them.

I did: TX, AR, LA, VA, FL and NC, and there Score was:





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FL: Red
TX: Green
AR: Purple
LA: Brown
VA: Orange
NC: Blue
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« Reply #29 on: January 25, 2010, 06:42:19 PM »

I'm assuming you define all slave states in 1860 as Southern. In that case, Maryland.
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« Reply #30 on: January 30, 2010, 05:16:47 PM »

Definitely Arkansas.  With a lower African American population, politicians never had to move so much to the right on social issues.  On economic issues, parts of Alabama have a populist tradition as well.
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« Reply #31 on: January 30, 2010, 05:25:20 PM »

I'm assuming you define all slave states in 1860 as Southern. In that case, Maryland.

I am sure we could make an exception for New Jersey and Delaware (since they were both nominally still slave states in 1860).
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« Reply #32 on: February 10, 2010, 08:02:58 PM »

I'm assuming you define all slave states in 1860 as Southern. In that case, Maryland.

I am sure we could make an exception for New Jersey and Delaware (since they were both nominally still slave states in 1860).

So are we including Missouri as well?
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« Reply #33 on: February 10, 2010, 10:06:06 PM »

I'm assuming you define all slave states in 1860 as Southern. In that case, Maryland.

I am sure we could make an exception for New Jersey and Delaware (since they were both nominally still slave states in 1860).

So are we including Missouri as well?


We are including Missouri, Delaware, and Maryland as part of the South since they were officially slave states before the Civil War. New Jersey would not be included since it was officially a free state before the Civil War.
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« Reply #34 on: February 10, 2010, 11:23:53 PM »

Here's my definition of "the South"



Dark Blue = Indisputably Southern
Medium Blue = Southern, though with some non-Southern characteristics and/or cultrually non-Southern areas
Light Blue = not Southern, but traditionally associated with the South or with significant culturally Southern regions.

A generation ago, North Carolina and Virginia would have both been dark blue, and while they're still basically Southern states, the growth of non-culturally Southern populations means that they're no longer in the same category as Mississippi, Alabama, and Arkansas. Georgia will probably be medium blue in 10 years or so.
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« Reply #35 on: February 11, 2010, 02:32:54 PM »

I'm surprised Arkansas is winning this poll--although Democrats are competitive in most of the state, Ark. does not really have pockets of social liberalism.

While overall I agree with this, I thought I would give a few examples of places (perhaps the only ones) that could possibly be considered pockets of social liberalism in Arkansas:

Little Rock
Fayetteville
West Memphis

That would be about it, though.
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« Reply #36 on: February 12, 2010, 08:50:30 PM »

right now of all the old confederate stats it has to be virginia...even more so than florida.
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« Reply #37 on: February 12, 2010, 09:28:06 PM »

right now of all the old confederate stats it has to be virginia...even more so than florida.

I disagree, I would have to say North Carolina is.
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« Reply #38 on: February 12, 2010, 11:38:00 PM »

I guess you can say NC at the state level, VA at the national
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« Reply #39 on: February 13, 2010, 12:56:06 AM »

I guess you can say NC at the state level, VA at the national

Well, it not only that, North Carolina is the only state in the south that doesn't have an amendmetn banning gay marriage, and most likely will never. Also, if we had better Democratic candidates that would run for Senate we would have two Democratic Senators.
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« Reply #40 on: February 13, 2010, 01:17:03 AM »

I guess you can say NC at the state level, VA at the national

Well, it not only that, North Carolina is the only state in the south that doesn't have an amendmetn banning gay marriage, and most likely will never. Also, if we had better Democratic candidates that would run for Senate we would have two Democratic Senators.

Still could.  I think Burr will win, but he isn't safe.
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« Reply #41 on: February 13, 2010, 04:38:52 AM »

Probably Virginia or Florida.
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« Reply #42 on: February 13, 2010, 11:34:08 AM »

Virginia be far (Not including Florida). North Carolina is still conservative, and I can see that in Democrat-leaning Charlotte. (Wel.. it's more then Dem-Leaning...)
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« Reply #43 on: February 13, 2010, 12:05:46 PM »

How can anyone answer anything other than Maryland?
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« Reply #44 on: February 13, 2010, 12:09:27 PM »

How can anyone answer anything other than Maryland?

Maryland is not in the south, it is in the Mid Atlantic.
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« Reply #45 on: February 13, 2010, 02:15:46 PM »

How can anyone answer anything other than Maryland?

Maryland is not in the south, it is in the Mid Atlantic.

The Census Bureau differs.
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« Reply #46 on: February 13, 2010, 02:19:39 PM »

I guess you can say NC at the state level, VA at the national

Well, it not only that, North Carolina is the only state in the south that doesn't have an amendmetn banning gay marriage, and most likely will never. Also, if we had better Democratic candidates that would run for Senate we would have two Democratic Senators.

Still could.  I think Burr will win, but he isn't safe.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_Senators_from_North_Carolina#Class_III
He has recent history running against him, since 1980 neither major party has managed to hold onto the Class III Senate seat for more than one term at a time. Since 1968 no Senator has managed to get re-elected. However, if 2010 is a Republican year he might just pull it off.
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