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Josh/Devilman88
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« on: May 20, 2008, 05:10:28 pm »

New Poll: North Carolina President by Survey USA on 2008-05-19

Summary: D: 49%, R: 43%, U: 2%

Poll Source URL: Full Poll Details

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« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2008, 05:45:50 pm »

Definatley an outlier.
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« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2008, 05:48:26 pm »

what.
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« Reply #3 on: May 20, 2008, 05:50:25 pm »

It looks like there will be much more Democratic defectors under Obama than Clinton.
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« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2008, 05:50:41 pm »


The Obama one looks right, but the clinton one doesn't...
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« Reply #5 on: May 20, 2008, 05:52:06 pm »

tehe.
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« Reply #6 on: May 20, 2008, 05:58:26 pm »

What the hell? lol.
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« Reply #7 on: May 20, 2008, 06:40:37 pm »

Wow, and I thought Obama was stronger in NC than Hillary. I guess a lot of her supporters in the state have no problems voting for McCain over Obama. I've talked to a few who either wouldn't vote or vote for McCain.
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« Reply #8 on: May 20, 2008, 06:41:34 pm »

Wow, and I thought Obama was stronger in NC than Hillary. I guess a lot of her supporters in the state have no problems voting for McCain over Obama. I've talked to a few who either wouldn't vote or vote for McCain.
Do you know what the word outlier means?
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« Reply #9 on: May 20, 2008, 06:57:32 pm »

It is really starting to infuriate me the extent to which Obama supporters would support Clinton as the Democratic nominee; yet hers wouldn't support him in equal measure. I see this as tantamount to securing Clinton the nomination by 'blackmail'

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« Reply #10 on: May 20, 2008, 07:09:33 pm »

Did the Clinton campaign pay Survey USA to post fraudulent results?
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« Reply #11 on: May 20, 2008, 07:10:55 pm »

"when polls blow up"
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« Reply #12 on: May 20, 2008, 07:10:56 pm »

It is really starting to infuriate me the extent to which Obama supporters would support Clinton as the Democratic nominee; yet hers wouldn't support him in equal measure. I see this as tantamount to securing Clinton the nomination by 'blackmail'

Dave

Obama supporters are teh black. Teh black always votes Dem. White women on the other hand, are a swing demographic. They always vote the winner. They are like white Catholics, independents, Hispanics, seniors... oh wait, we had this discussion back in February didn't we?


Also definitely true, for this poll. Smiley
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« Reply #13 on: May 20, 2008, 07:42:53 pm »

It is really starting to infuriate me the extent to which Obama supporters would support Clinton as the Democratic nominee; yet hers wouldn't support him in equal measure. I see this as tantamount to securing Clinton the nomination by 'blackmail'

Dave

Obama supporters are teh black. Teh black always votes Dem. White women on the other hand, are a swing demographic. They always vote the winner. They are like white Catholics, independents, Hispanics, seniors... oh wait, we had this discussion back in February didn't we?

Obama would be the winner of Clinton-inclined demographics supported him to the extent to which his would support her

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« Reply #14 on: May 20, 2008, 08:01:55 pm »

uh what
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« Reply #15 on: May 20, 2008, 09:25:18 pm »

Wow, and I thought Obama was stronger in NC than Hillary. I guess a lot of her supporters in the state have no problems voting for McCain over Obama. I've talked to a few who either wouldn't vote or vote for McCain.
Do you know what the word outlier means?

Don't throw stuff like this around. There is a strict definition for this. There aren't enough polls of NC to determine whether it's a statistical outlier or not. The term only gains meaning if you have a statistically relevant number of data points, of which this is just one.
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« Reply #16 on: May 21, 2008, 12:09:29 am »

I scratch and tilt my head.
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« Reply #17 on: May 21, 2008, 12:20:42 am »

Wow, and I thought Obama was stronger in NC than Hillary. I guess a lot of her supporters in the state have no problems voting for McCain over Obama. I've talked to a few who either wouldn't vote or vote for McCain.
Do you know what the word outlier means?

Don't throw stuff like this around. There is a strict definition for this. There aren't enough polls of NC to determine whether it's a statistical outlier or not. The term only gains meaning if you have a statistically relevant number of data points, of which this is just one.

clap,clap,clap
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« Reply #18 on: May 21, 2008, 12:41:43 am »

Wow, and I thought Obama was stronger in NC than Hillary. I guess a lot of her supporters in the state have no problems voting for McCain over Obama. I've talked to a few who either wouldn't vote or vote for McCain.
Do you know what the word outlier means?

He does. For him, it means, 'polls which show Obama ahead of McCain.'
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« Reply #19 on: May 21, 2008, 12:45:38 am »

Wow, and I thought Obama was stronger in NC than Hillary. I guess a lot of her supporters in the state have no problems voting for McCain over Obama. I've talked to a few who either wouldn't vote or vote for McCain.
Do you know what the word outlier means?

He does. For him, it means, 'polls which show Obama ahead of McCain.'

LOL

Of course. Honestly, this sh*t isn't even funny anymore.
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« Reply #20 on: May 21, 2008, 12:55:28 am »

1 in 20, 1 in 20
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« Reply #21 on: May 21, 2008, 02:17:24 am »

I see this as tantamount to securing Clinton the nomination by 'blackmail'

Didn't you mean "securing the nomination by black male" Tongue

Why do you think a working white woman would cast her ballot for a random state legislator from Chicago whose primary accomplishments are "being a community organizer" and defeating perhaps their only chance to see a woman President in their lifetimes?
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« Reply #22 on: May 21, 2008, 04:14:24 am »

It is really starting to infuriate me the extent to which Obama supporters would support Clinton as the Democratic nominee; yet hers wouldn't support him in equal measure. I see this as tantamount to securing Clinton the nomination by 'blackmail'

Dave

Of course. It's a given that if I support one candidate in a primary I must support all other candidates in that primary for the general election. Or, at least, if 80% of my preferred candidate's opponent's supporters I must support that opponent for the general election with 80% of myself.

Or, Dave, do you think all the millions of Clinton voters in America should get together and decide which of them are allowed to not vote Obama in the general, so they can match the percentage of Obama supporters saying they would vote Clinton in the general? Or do you admit that you are letting your absurd infatuation with Obama make you degenerate into talking complete nonsense?
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« Reply #23 on: May 21, 2008, 10:13:25 pm »


Of course. It's a given that if I support one candidate in a primary I must support all other candidates in that primary for the general election. Or, at least, if 80% of my preferred candidate's opponent's supporters I must support that opponent for the general election with 80% of myself.

Or, Dave, do you think all the millions of Clinton voters in America should get together and decide which of them are allowed to not vote Obama in the general, so they can match the percentage of Obama supporters saying they would vote Clinton in the general?

My point is that neither Clinton nor Obama supporters - given where the two candidates stand on the issues - should be any more or any less likely to defect to McCain

That's all. Just the thought of either Democrat losing to McCain out of spite or worse (i.e. sexism in relation to Clinton or racism in relation to Obama) on the part of the other's supporters saddens me and polling suggests that, right now, Clinton supporters are more likely to undermine Obama than his would Clinton

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I'd have a hard job doing that considering I'm not infatuated with Obama at all, let alone absurdly

You just get back to supporting McCain. I'll be supporting the nominee of the party with whom I identify

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« Reply #24 on: May 21, 2008, 10:21:03 pm »

I see this as tantamount to securing Clinton the nomination by 'blackmail'

Didn't you mean "securing the nomination by black male" Tongue

Why do you think a working white woman would cast her ballot for a random state legislator from Chicago whose primary accomplishments are "being a community organizer" and defeating perhaps their only chance to see a woman President in their lifetimes?


You expect Republicans to unify behind McCain; I'd like to see Democrats unify behind Obama or Clinton. It matters not in the least to me whether Clinton is a woman or Obama is a black man

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