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« Reply #125 on: May 06, 2008, 07:35:19 PM »
Wow, if these trends continue, this night will be very good for Obama.
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« Reply #126 on: May 06, 2008, 07:35:52 PM »
Quote from: Lt. Gov. Lief on May 06, 2008, 07:32:29 PM
And a gigantic LOL at the Clinton-supporters/Republicans that said that Clinton would do better in Indiana than Obama would in North Carolina.

I predicted she would but it was more a question of being cautious. In politics, in sometimes pays to be Smiley

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« Reply #127 on: May 06, 2008, 07:36:11 PM »
Hillary Clinton sucks.
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« Reply #128 on: May 06, 2008, 07:36:47 PM »
Wow. Evansville is suprising me.
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« Reply #129 on: May 06, 2008, 07:37:32 PM »

Quote of the night, easily.
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« Reply #130 on: May 06, 2008, 07:37:50 PM »
Quote from: Lt. Gov. Lief on May 06, 2008, 07:32:29 PM
And a gigantic LOL at the Clinton-supporters/Republicans that said that Clinton would do better in Indiana than Obama would in North Carolina.

I will now accept my accolades.  Oh wait. . .
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« Reply #131 on: May 06, 2008, 07:38:19 PM »
Gary, Indiana 0% in. That's should scare Hillary.
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« Reply #132 on: May 06, 2008, 07:39:12 PM »
Quote from: Flem on May 06, 2008, 07:36:47 PM
Wow. Evansville is suprising me.

Yep, 54% reporting and it's Clinton 52 - Obama 48
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« Reply #133 on: May 06, 2008, 07:39:42 PM »
Quote from: Flem on May 06, 2008, 07:38:19 PM
Gary, Indiana 0% in. That's should scare Hillary.

Naw, they'll just declare she won by 8 points now, and not wait for insignificant Gary.
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« Reply #134 on: May 06, 2008, 07:39:56 PM »
Clinton by 3% I'm thinking now. But hey, without the rest of Hamilton, and nothing from Lake and St. Joseph, it could be an Obama win, or maybe Clinton by as much as 6%.
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« Reply #135 on: May 06, 2008, 07:40:32 PM »
So do you guys think vandenburgh could flip? I have no idea what votes are coming in and what is left.
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« Reply #136 on: May 06, 2008, 07:41:51 PM »
Quote from: sbane on May 06, 2008, 07:40:32 PM
So do you guys think vandenburgh could flip? I have no idea what votes are coming in and what is left.

I'm dumbstruck because it's a working-class, Kentucky-bordering area with very few blacks.  There shouldn't be any Obama strongholds.  In fact, I'd think that Obama's best performances in the entire county would be somewhere around here.

I would never have expected it could be this close, so...why the hell not!
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« Reply #137 on: May 06, 2008, 07:43:29 PM »
Another county to watch is Hendricks. It has a lot of folks, and is middle class white, not elite, just west of Indianapolis. Nothing is in from there yet. Is it more like Hamilton, or more like the other less populated collar counties that went for Clinton by generally pedestrian margins (except for Hancock to the east).
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« Reply #138 on: May 06, 2008, 07:44:49 PM »
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Quote from: sbane on May 06, 2008, 07:40:32 PM
So do you guys think vandenburgh could flip? I have no idea what votes are coming in and what is left.

I'm dumbstruck because it's a working-class, Kentucky-bordering area with very few blacks.  There shouldn't be any Obama strongholds.  In fact, I'd think that Obama's best performances in the entire county would be somewhere around here.

I would never have expected it could be this close, so...why the hell not!

Evansville is German, not Scotch Irish or southern tinged. It was one of those German river towns, an island is a sea of copperheads.   Having said that, Obama is running relatively well in smaller industrial cities in Indiana.
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« Reply #139 on: May 06, 2008, 07:45:01 PM »
The networks seem to be clueless as to what could possibility be happening here, of course.
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« Reply #140 on: May 06, 2008, 07:46:13 PM »
Quote from: Torie on May 06, 2008, 07:44:49 PM
Evansville is German, not Scotch Irish or southern tinged. It was one of those German river towns, an island is a sea of copperheads.

There we go.  Still an over-performance, but much more explicable now.  Thank you.  Smiley
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« Reply #141 on: May 06, 2008, 07:49:23 PM »
Quote from: sbane on May 06, 2008, 07:40:32 PM
So do you guys think vandenburgh could flip? I have no idea what votes are coming in and what is left.

Doubt it. I'd be surprised if it did
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« Reply #142 on: May 06, 2008, 07:50:06 PM »
Porter County 58-42 Clinton with 14% in.  Not good for Obama.
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« Reply #143 on: May 06, 2008, 07:50:38 PM »
Down to 8 points at 57%.
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« Reply #144 on: May 06, 2008, 07:50:48 PM »
Quote from: Eraserhead on May 06, 2008, 07:45:01 PM
The networks seem to be clueless as to what could possibility be happening here, of course.

I don't think they're clueless, they just really want Obama to do poorly.
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« Reply #145 on: May 06, 2008, 07:50:53 PM »
Chuck Todd says we're waiting for black precincts in Indy to come in.
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« Reply #146 on: May 06, 2008, 07:51:01 PM »
Clinton leads in Porter County, which is a bit of surprise. Porter is the ultimate white flight county, of course.

Edit: Only 14% in, though.
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« Reply #147 on: May 06, 2008, 07:52:04 PM »
Quote from: Verily on May 06, 2008, 07:51:01 PM
Clinton leads in Porter County, which is a bit of surprise. Porter is the ultimate white flight county, of course.

It's not Yankee stock like say Elkhart and Allen. Smiley
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« Reply #148 on: May 06, 2008, 07:52:15 PM »
Quote from: Verily on May 06, 2008, 07:51:01 PM
Clinton leads in Porter County, which is a bit of surprise. Porter is the ultimate white flight county, of course.

Edit: Only 14% in, though.

Depends on whether it's the Wallace white-flight types reporting or the nice-identical-houses white-flight types.  Tongue
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« Reply #149 on: May 06, 2008, 07:52:35 PM »
yeah Porter is a bit of a disappointment, but probably expected in hindsight.
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