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« on: March 19, 2008, 02:14:36 PM »

This may surprise some of you coming from me, but these are just three polls in time and what a time it was.  I mean, these polls were ALL THREE done right smack dab in the middle of the Wright affair and it is obviously reflecting Obama's absolute bottom in the middle of an extreme negative news cycle.

Therefore, I don't attach much if any importance to any of these.

However, watch the Hillary people jump on these and try to use them to try and convince everyone that Hillary is the stronger candidate.  I think the super delegates are too smart for that in that they know that a couple of polls don't mean much now.  Obama will do better when this thing passes.  I think it will hurt him some in the long run but no where near what is reflected in these polls.



I will admit to not being an expert on the south, but it is my personal feeling that while Obama will likely rebound from the Wright scandal in the northern states among white voters, his reputation among southern white voters is tarnished enough to permanently count him out in those longshot southern states it was once thought he'd have a shot at winning.

He'll never rebound from this 100% in the south.
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« Reply #1 on: March 19, 2008, 02:27:57 PM »

This may surprise some of you coming from me, but these are just three polls in time and what a time it was.  I mean, these polls were ALL THREE done right smack dab in the middle of the Wright affair and it is obviously reflecting Obama's absolute bottom in the middle of an extreme negative news cycle.

Therefore, I don't attach much if any importance to any of these.

However, watch the Hillary people jump on these and try to use them to try and convince everyone that Hillary is the stronger candidate.  I think the super delegates are too smart for that in that they know that a couple of polls don't mean much now.  Obama will do better when this thing passes.  I think it will hurt him some in the long run but no where near what is reflected in these polls.



I will admit to not being an expert on the south, but it is my personal feeling that while Obama will likely rebound from the Wright scandal in the northern states among white voters, his reputation among southern white voters is tarnished enough to permanently count him out in those longshot southern states it was once thought he'd have a shot at winning.

He'll never rebound from this 100% in the south.

Currently Obama has only to rebound in Michigan and Pennsylvania to win the Presidency (maybe in NJ and NH as well, but I think they won´t vote for McCain anyway). I also assume he´s still ahead or tied in NV, CO, WI. All other states seem to be safe Obama, even during this current "crisis".

After this scandal, I'm not sure you can assume he's ahead in NV, CO, and WI, and Obama was in trouble in Pennsylvania before the scandal broke.

Right now, the simple electoral math isn't looking terrific for Obama.  He might pick up some states like Colorado, Iowa, and maybe Nevada, but as things stand now, he'll lose Florida and Ohio to McCain, might lose Pennsylvania, Michigan, and New Hampshire to boot.
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« Reply #2 on: March 19, 2008, 02:28:57 PM »

Moderate, I mostly agree with your post although I don't think he will bounce all the way back to where he was with northern whites.  However, you are correct with your general assessment.

Well, I don't think he'll get all the way back either, but the effect will be largely muted in comparison with the effect of the Wright affair in those initially-friendly southern states.
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