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« Reply #25 on: March 19, 2008, 02:48:37 PM »
« edited: March 19, 2008, 02:50:25 PM by Enrico Pallazzo »

That's some blog, Bandit.  Wow, it says you saw a survey taken last week showing Obama beating McCain in Kentucky?

This wasn't last week. This was a few weeks ago.

He asked you for a link.  Are we to assume you made this up too?
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« Reply #26 on: March 19, 2008, 02:49:46 PM »

That's some blog, Bandit.  Wow, it says you saw a survey taken last week showing Obama beating McCain in Kentucky?

This wasn't last week. This was a few weeks ago.

According to what I know (and I know lots of recent polls) there has been no poll from a respected pollster that showed Obama ahead of McCain in ANY of the southern states, let alone Kentucky.
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« Reply #27 on: March 19, 2008, 02:54:09 PM »

2. Obama has never led McCain in poll of Kentucky.  The last SUSA poll to show a Dem up against McCain was last November.

I wasn't talking about just SurveyUSA polls. I was also talking about WTVQ and WHAS polls and such.

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Riiiiight.

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I know what the votes are, because I'm from the state being polled, and I actually get to listen to what people in Kentucky say.

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In the beginning, SurveyUSA is full of fart gas.
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« Reply #28 on: March 19, 2008, 02:56:02 PM »

You get around the state pretty good, don't you.
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« Reply #29 on: March 19, 2008, 02:57:20 PM »

This poll is to Obama-biased, and too anti-Clinton. Clearly, Obama would be under 30% in all three states, and Clinton would easily Missouri by 10 or so.
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« Reply #30 on: March 19, 2008, 02:57:51 PM »
« Edited: March 19, 2008, 03:00:36 PM by Enrico Pallazzo »

3. None of this matters, since you've decided that any result differing from your analysis is an indicator of voter fraud.  You are the best political analyst in history.  You know how the votes were actually cast, and what the voters actually replied to the polls with.

I know what the votes are, because I'm from the state being polled, and I actually get to listen to what people in Kentucky say.

You know what everybody in the entire state of Kentucky says?  I'm sorry, but I would much rather pay attention to an organization with a scientific method of measuring opinions than a guy with nothing but anecdotal evidence and a history of making things up to support his arguments.

Found a link to that poll showing Obama beating McCain yet?
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« Reply #31 on: March 19, 2008, 03:04:30 PM »

I'm sorry, but I would much rather pay attention to an organization with a scientific method of measuring opinions than a guy with nothing but anecdotal evidence and a history of making things up to support his arguments.

You'd rather pay attention to an organization with a scientific method of measuring opinions than to Bush? Well, that's fair.
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« Reply #32 on: March 19, 2008, 03:15:47 PM »

Hey Bandit.  Found that poll link yet?
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« Reply #33 on: March 19, 2008, 03:16:25 PM »

I'm sorry, but I would much rather pay attention to an organization with a scientific method of measuring opinions than a guy with nothing but anecdotal evidence and a history of making things up to support his arguments.

You'd rather pay attention to an organization with a scientific method of measuring opinions than to Bush? Well, that's fair.

Cute.  Now if you can't provide the link to that poll you cited showing Obama beating McCain in Kentucky, then I have no choice but to call you out for lying yet again.
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« Reply #34 on: March 19, 2008, 03:37:00 PM »

Like I'm supposed to keep a link I thought I had no use for a month later.
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« Reply #35 on: March 19, 2008, 03:37:51 PM »

If you wanted the link so bad, you should have asked for it 3 weeks ago before I threw it away.
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« Reply #36 on: March 19, 2008, 03:40:08 PM »

Sorry, our mistake.  No doubt you did have it.
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« Reply #37 on: March 19, 2008, 03:40:56 PM »

If you wanted the link so bad, you should have asked for it 3 weeks ago before I threw it away.

How convenient.  Did you even attempt to tell anybody here about the existence of this poll three weeks ago?

Can you remember the polling organization?  If you can, it won't take long for us to find it for you.
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« Reply #38 on: March 19, 2008, 03:44:01 PM »

How convenient.  Did you even attempt to tell anybody here about the existence of this poll three weeks ago?

Because people here seem so eager to post other polls, I just figured back then that someone posted it.
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« Reply #39 on: March 19, 2008, 03:45:12 PM »

How convenient.  Did you even attempt to tell anybody here about the existence of this poll three weeks ago?

Because people here seem so eager to post other polls, I just figured back then that someone posted it.

Did you think to check?  And please answer my other question.
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« Reply #40 on: March 19, 2008, 03:45:38 PM »

Interesting. This will probably pass, but Obama better hope polls aren't showing something like this later on once the remaining super delegates are to make up their minds. I think Clinton is actually enormously disappointed right now, because she needed something like this to emerge at the exact right time to convince the supers to flock to her. We'll see whether this stays or whether something else pops up.
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« Reply #41 on: March 19, 2008, 03:47:28 PM »


I didn't know I had to babysit this website.

But apparently I do, considering the maturity level that's been displayed here today.
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« Reply #42 on: March 19, 2008, 03:51:58 PM »

Oh for crying out loud.  You will either make the effort to find the link again and post it here - which really should have been memorable enough if you referenced it in a blog entry - or I will assume you are lying.  I have no reason not to do so, as you have been caught doing so several times before.

And do not accuse others of immaturity while making comments like "SurveyUSA is full of fart gas".
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« Reply #43 on: March 19, 2008, 03:54:55 PM »

Since you're the one who thinks the link is so important, find it yourself.
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« Reply #44 on: March 19, 2008, 03:56:29 PM »

The onus is on you to provide evidence for your own assertions.  Why should I search for something that most likely does not exist?
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« Reply #45 on: March 19, 2008, 03:58:29 PM »

The onus is on you to provide evidence for your own assertions.  Why should I search for something that most likely does not exist?

Because it bips.
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« Reply #46 on: March 19, 2008, 04:03:56 PM »

Uh... okay.

I give up with you.  You've been caught lying yet again, Bandit.  Next time you start spouting off an argument, back it up with facts.  Don't just make things up, or absolutely nobody will ever take you seriously.  I certainly can't.
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« Reply #47 on: March 19, 2008, 04:07:37 PM »

I give up with you.  You've been caught lying yet again, Bandit.  Next time you start spouting off an argument, back it up with facts.  Don't just make things up, or absolutely nobody will ever take you seriously.  I certainly can't.

The Obama-haters at ABC need to back up their arguments with facts.
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« Reply #48 on: March 19, 2008, 04:56:55 PM »

I give up with you.  You've been caught lying yet again, Bandit.  Next time you start spouting off an argument, back it up with facts.  Don't just make things up, or absolutely nobody will ever take you seriously.  I certainly can't.

The Obama-haters at ABC need to back up their arguments with facts.

Bandit your deliusonal if you think Obama would do well in Kentucky.  I am a strong Obama supporter, but fact of the matter is you live in a right wing extremeist hell hole of a state.
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« Reply #49 on: March 19, 2008, 04:59:45 PM »

Bandit your deliusonal if you think Obama would do well in Kentucky.

He'd do great compared to Hillary.

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