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« on: March 16, 2008, 05:05:40 PM »

Barack Obama arrives at the Democratic National Convention with a 96 committed delegate lead and a 51% to 49% lead in the popular vote from the primaries and the caucuses over Hillary Clinton.

However, Obama has been much diminished during the latter part of the primary season, with much of the public perceiving him as weak on national security, as Clinton was very successful in sewing doubts in the minds of the public about Obama on this issue.  The public still has lingering questions about Obama's credibility over the Jeremiah Wright affair.

Clinton is determined to push forward, and not to give up the nomination without pulling out all the stops at the convention. 

The nomination goes to a bitter floor fight. 

Obama and his supporters make the case that since he finished ahead of Clinton in both committed delegates and in the popular vote from the primaries and caucuses, that he is the legitimate candidate to receive the nomination.

Clinton and her supporters make the case to that she has a wider demographic base of support, has won in most of the large and key states, and that Obama is viewed by a large segment of the electorate as weak on national security and that many still doubt his credibility.

Hillary Clinton, her husband, former President Bill Clinton, and many establishment Democrats, who still wield considerable influence in the party, launch an all out campaign to convince the non committed super delegates to support Hillary.  This high powered pressure results in convincing just barely enough of the non committed super delegates to support Hillary, and puts Hillary Clinton over the top, giving her the nomination with a razor thin victory of 2027 votes to 2022 for Obama.

Having now secured the nomination, even though under dubious circumstances, Clinton goes with experience, both domestically and internationally, for her running mate, and announces that Governor Bill Richardson of New Mexico is her Vice Presidential pick. 

The Obama supporters are outraged, claiming the nomination has been stolen by a handful of super delegates, who were not elected in any primaries or caucuses, overturning the will of the electorate.

Obama and his campaign staff meet to decide their course of action.  They agree that they will not support Clinton, as they believe strongly they have been robbed of the nomination.  They decide to publicly denounce the selection of Clinton as undemocratic and as a violation of the will the electorate had expressed during the primaries.

Obama and his supporters, half the delegates, march out of the convention hall in protest, singing "We Shall Overcome."

Hillary Clinton, with Bill and Chelsey Clinton, her newly chosen running mate Bill Richardson and his family on stage with her, accepts the nomination, and vows to unite the Democratic Party, and to go on to victory in November.

Two days later, Barack Obama announces that he is running for President as a Reform Democrat, and is officially nominated one week later at a hastily convened convention in St. Louis, Missouri, attended by thousands of ordinary Americans.  Reform minded Governor Mike Easley of North Carolina accepts the Vice Presidential nomination.

The Democratic ticket and the Reform Democratic ticket are facing the formidable challenge of running against the experienced and respected Republican nominee, Senator John McCain of Arizona.  McCain has picked Governor Mark Sanford of South Carolina for Vice President. 
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« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2008, 05:43:10 PM »

To anyone reading this, first of all, thank you.

Second of all, please post your thoughts and feed back on how this election develops and turns out.

Please use maps if you like.

 
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« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2008, 05:21:47 PM »



McCain 49% 475 EV
Clinton 26% 32 EV
Obama 24% 31 EV
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« Reply #3 on: March 17, 2008, 05:27:05 PM »

Actually, Obama wouldn't really have time to put his name on the ballot anywhere, and his candidacy would be a write-in one, I assume. So we get this:



McCain 514
Clinton 21
Obama 3
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« Reply #4 on: March 28, 2008, 02:21:37 AM »

Okay let's assume Obama gets ballot access and he gets a lot of media attention because of the D. party schism. He and Clinon divide up the D. vote in may swing states, handing them to McCain. Obama and Clinton both eek out victories in areas they've been strong in.

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« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2008, 12:15:50 PM »

What if Clinton and Obama just appear on the ballots in the states they won in the primary?


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