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« on: February 27, 2008, 08:18:32 PM »

What is the best possible map than you can realistically see happening for each candidate?


Obama wins 389-149 in the EC, and 56-44 in the PV.


McCain wins 359-179 in the EC, and 55-45 in the PV.
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« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2008, 08:28:53 PM »



EV 379-165, PV 54%-45%



EV 331-207, PV 52%-46%
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« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2008, 11:54:09 PM »

In a McCain-Obama race, the best possible result for either side is a 1988 (or 1988 reverse) scenario.  It won't be any greater than that.
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« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2008, 11:55:42 PM »



EV 379-165, PV 54%-45%



EV 331-207, PV 52%-46%

Obama's best case scenario means he can take Kansas but McCain's best case means he still loses Minnesota?
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« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2008, 12:03:42 AM »


Obama's best case scenario means he can take Kansas but McCain's best case means he still loses Minnesota?
Yeah, Minnesota should probably be flipped.
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« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2008, 12:09:20 AM »



EV 379-165, PV 54%-45%



EV 331-207, PV 52%-46%

Obama's best case scenario means he can take Kansas but McCain's best case means he still loses Minnesota?

If Minnesota is the only state that has never voted for Reagan. It has went Republican once in 52 years, no Republican will be winning it any time soon. Write that down. On that note, I doubt that Obama's best case scenario includes a win in Kansas.
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« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2008, 12:18:42 AM »

As for Minnesota in 1984, rumor was that Reagan felt it bad form to actively campaign and actively try win the state from Walter Mondale.  Don't know how true that story is, but Reagan could have taken MN had he campaigned there a bit more.
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« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2008, 12:24:58 AM »


Obama's best case scenario means he can take Kansas but McCain's best case means he still loses Minnesota?
Yeah, Minnesota should probably be flipped.

You also show somewhat of a close contest in pretty safe GOP states like NC, IN and MT. If it's a best case for McCain, he'd win those states with probably close to 60%.
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« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2008, 12:26:14 AM »

As for Minnesota in 1984, rumor was that Reagan felt it bad form to actively campaign and actively try win the state from Walter Mondale.  Don't know how true that story is, but Reagan could have taken MN had he campaigned there a bit more.

Perhaps, but it's all speculation. At the end of the day, Mondale still got it's 10 electoral votes. Either way, two wins in 52 years is still pretty bad.
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« Reply #9 on: February 28, 2008, 12:33:28 AM »


Obama's best case scenario means he can take Kansas but McCain's best case means he still loses Minnesota?
Yeah, Minnesota should probably be flipped.

You also show somewhat of a close contest in pretty safe GOP states like NC, IN and MT. If it's a best case for McCain, he'd win those states with probably close to 60%.
Well, my best case for McCain would be him beating Obama by 5%, 52 to 47, like I posted. With demographic shifts in NC, and Obama doing better than Kerry in rural areas, MT, IN and NC would stay under 60% by a little bit.
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« Reply #10 on: February 28, 2008, 01:33:50 AM »

What is the best possible map than you can realistically see happening for each candidate?


Obama wins 389-149 in the EC, and 56-44 in the PV.


McCain wins 359-179 in the EC, and 55-45 in the PV.

TN will never elect Obama, not even in his re-election. Tongue

I would also remove MT, NC, WV and FL ...
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« Reply #11 on: February 28, 2008, 08:35:35 AM »


Obama's best case scenario means he can take Kansas but McCain's best case means he still loses Minnesota?
Yeah, Minnesota should probably be flipped.

You also show somewhat of a close contest in pretty safe GOP states like NC, IN and MT. If it's a best case for McCain, he'd win those states with probably close to 60%.

Id hardly call NC safe.  It leans GOP, and is on the hard end of leaning, but it is not in the same category as IN.  Likewise with MT.
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