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McKinley
 
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T. Roosevelt
 
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Taft
 
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Wilson
 
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Harding
 
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Coolidge
 
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Hoover
 
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F. Roosevelt
 
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Truman
 
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Eisenhower
 
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Kennedy
 
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LBJ
 
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Nixon
 
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Ford
 
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Carter
 
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Reagan
 
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GHW Bush
 
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Clinton
 
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« Reply #25 on: February 14, 2004, 08:01:53 AM »

Nice list Realpolitik, with the exception of LBJ at no. 2.  You're a little off there.

Remeber, my father ended the LBJ presidency Smiley

I put LBJ at 2 because of the Civil Rights legislation and the War on Poverty.
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« Reply #26 on: February 14, 2004, 09:00:12 AM »

HEY! HEY! LBJ! HOW MANY KIDS DID YOU KILL TODAY?
HEY! HEY! LBJ! HOW MANY KIDS DID YOU KILL TODAY?
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« Reply #27 on: February 14, 2004, 09:19:35 AM »

Which is why he's no. 2

Besides it wasn't really his fault, he didn't know how foriegn policy and dipolomacy worked and relied far too much on advisors.
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« Reply #28 on: February 14, 2004, 12:29:24 PM »

I voted for Reagan.  Obviously most of the presidents prior to FDR were good, since the government was small and could do little damage.  The one exception was Wilson - who is the second worst, after FDR.
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« Reply #29 on: February 14, 2004, 04:57:59 PM »

Here's the great Al Franken quote:

"I think Bill Clinton was the best president of the 20th century.  But a case could be made for FDR.  Or Kennedy.  Or LBJ, for that matter.  Maybe the other Roosevelt, if you're a republican.  Or Reagan, if you're a ing idiot."
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« Reply #30 on: February 14, 2004, 04:59:51 PM »

Here's the great Al Franken quote:

"I think Bill Clinton was the best president of the 20th century.  But a case could be made for FDR.  Or Kennedy.  Or LBJ, for that matter.  Maybe the other Roosevelt, if you're a republican.  Or Reagan, if you're a ing idiot."

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« Reply #31 on: February 14, 2004, 05:00:50 PM »

I do?  Michael Moore and Al Franken are the Rush Limbaughs and Ann Coulters of our side.  We're entitled.

Limbaugh is just as mean-spirited a Franken, if not more.
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« Reply #32 on: February 14, 2004, 05:02:53 PM »

I do?  Michael Moore and Al Franken are the Rush Limbaughs and Ann Coulters of our side.  We're entitled.

Limbaugh is just as mean-spirited a Franken, if not more.

Limbaugh can make a point without being profane.  I've never heard him call Democrats idiots.  He gives credit to Dems where it is due.

Screw Ann Coulter, she just makes us look bad.
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« Reply #33 on: February 14, 2004, 05:04:08 PM »

Limbaugh is the biggest hypocrite this side of Newt Gingrich.  When I heard he had been high for five years....
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« Reply #34 on: February 14, 2004, 05:06:15 PM »

Limbaugh is the biggest hypocrite this side of Newt Gingrich.  When I heard he had been high for five years....

He wasn't high.  He was adicted ot pain-killers because of his back.  That could happen to anyone.  My grandma was adicted to pain-killers.  What's it to ya?
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« Reply #35 on: February 14, 2004, 05:09:07 PM »

I would feel sorry for almost anyone addicted to painkillers, but I don't think I can do that with Rush Limbaugh.  Like the Beatles wrote in a Day in the Life, "I just had to laugh"
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« Reply #36 on: February 14, 2004, 05:11:11 PM »

I do?  Michael Moore and Al Franken are the Rush Limbaughs and Ann Coulters of our side.  We're entitled.

Limbaugh is just as mean-spirited a Franken, if not more.

Limbaugh can make a point without being profane.  I've never heard him call Democrats idiots.  He gives credit to Dems where it is due.

Screw Ann Coulter, she just makes us look bad.

You'll get the Ann Coulter worshippers on your back now....you're so dead Soulty, sorry to break it ti you... Wink

We can use this in the election! Wink
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« Reply #37 on: February 14, 2004, 05:11:44 PM »

I would feel sorry for almost anyone addicted to painkillers, but I don't think I can do that with Rush Limbaugh.  Like the Beatles wrote in a Day in the Life, "I just had to laugh"

Well, you know that people who use the one Limbaugh qoute about how "white men doing drugs should be locked up and the key thrown away"  are misqouting him big time.  He said "white men DEALING drug...."  That's a big difference.
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« Reply #38 on: February 14, 2004, 05:14:51 PM »

I would feel sorry for almost anyone addicted to painkillers, but I don't think I can do that with Rush Limbaugh.  Like the Beatles wrote in a Day in the Life, "I just had to laugh"

Well, you know that people who use the one Limbaugh qoute about how "white men doing drugs should be locked up and the key thrown away"  are misqouting him big time.  He said "white men DEALING drug...."  That's a big difference.
Yeah, Limbaugh was very sympathetic to drug users.
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« Reply #39 on: February 14, 2004, 05:18:31 PM »

I would feel sorry for almost anyone addicted to painkillers, but I don't think I can do that with Rush Limbaugh.  Like the Beatles wrote in a Day in the Life, "I just had to laugh"

Well, you know that people who use the one Limbaugh qoute about how "white men doing drugs should be locked up and the key thrown away"  are misqouting him big time.  He said "white men DEALING drug...."  That's a big difference.
Yeah, Limbaugh was very sympathetic to drug users.

He admits his own failing.  You know what he said the first day he came-back, he said that the rehab he went through was a fantastic expierince.  He said that he couldn't believe that this was only availible to adicts.  It really changed his life.
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« Reply #40 on: February 14, 2004, 05:22:42 PM »

He admits his own failing.  You know what he said the first day he came-back, he said that the rehab he went through was a fantastic expierince.  He said that he couldn't believe that this was only availible to adicts.  It really changed his life.
I don't see how that really has much to do with this discussion.

Remember Limbaugh on Sunday NFL Countdown: LOL!
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« Reply #41 on: February 14, 2004, 05:30:00 PM »

I remember that the media blew his comments way out of proportion, yes.  I remember that no one even brought them up before Tuesday, when the y appeared in an editorial in the Philadelphia Inquierer.  I do remember that much.

I also remember that Rush was good friends with Micheal Irvin until the incident.  As I recall, Irvin has had his own problems with drugs in the past, so to say that Rush treated people with drug problems as sub-human could not possibly be true given the nature of his relationship with Mr. Irvin.
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« Reply #42 on: February 14, 2004, 05:31:26 PM »

I like Michael Irvin....he attended the University of Miami.

I think Limbaugh made those comments because he knew the OxyContin story was about to break.
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« Reply #43 on: February 14, 2004, 05:33:15 PM »

I like Michael Irvin....he attended the University of Miami.

I think Limbaugh made those comments because he knew the OxyContin story was about to break.

What?
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« Reply #44 on: February 14, 2004, 05:36:47 PM »

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« Reply #45 on: February 14, 2004, 05:44:16 PM »

Why would Rush make the Donovan McNab comment because of the Oxy Cotin thing?  That makes no sence.  It just allowed the media to jump on him even more.
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« Reply #46 on: February 14, 2004, 05:45:10 PM »

Why would Rush make the Donovan McNab comment because of the Oxy Cotin thing?  That makes no sence.  It just allowed the media to jump on him even more.
To deflect attention.
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« Reply #47 on: February 14, 2004, 05:47:34 PM »

Why would Rush make the Donovan McNab comment because of the Oxy Cotin thing?  That makes no sence.  It just allowed the media to jump on him even more.
To deflect attention.

That just doesn't make sence.  It assumes that Rush would  have known that the DM comment would have caused a huge stir although nobody commented on it until Tuesday.
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« Reply #48 on: February 14, 2004, 05:50:30 PM »

But if there are two stories, they only get half the attention, but there is one, it gets all of the attention.
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« Reply #49 on: February 14, 2004, 05:52:15 PM »

Or that person gets double attention, which is hat ended-up happening.
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