Most overrated president

[LesterMaddox]

I'd have to say Carter, especially since Maddox had to serve as Lt. Gov. under him simply because of a term limit kept him from being reelected Governor.  If it hadn't been for term limits, y'all could have had President Maddox instead of President Carter and the Democrats wouldn't be in the mess that they are today.

[??????????]

Everyone is overlooking the obvious. Lincoln.

[LesterMaddox]

I like your spirit, but Lincoln isn't overrated,  He was an SOB who deserved to be shot in 1861 when it would have made a difference, but he was a successful SOB.

[??????????]

I like your spirit, but Lincoln isn't overrated,  He was an SOB who deserved to be shot in 1861 when it would have made a difference, but he was a successful SOB.

I concur with you on that. Booth waited to long. His original plan was to kidnap lincoln in 1863. He almost pulled it off.

[phk]

Lincoln is one of our best presidents

[TeePee4Prez]

George W Bush!  The guy is a ing moron.  I do like his ears and his smile though. 

[Cashcow]

Reagan, Reagan, and... Reagan.

FDR was a bit overrated as well, though I still like him.

[Bugs]

Jackson, Wilson, Rord, Clinton. 
O, and let's not forget Jackson.

[J-Mann]

JFK, JFK, and JFK.  The whole obsession with "Camelot" makes me cringe.  There is no Camelot, and there is very little Kennedy legacy.  The guy was President for two-and-a-half years.  Just think if Clinton had been judged on just that amount of time in office!  He can't accurately be measured, so he shouldn't be included in any list or ranking of great Presidents.  

OK, StatesRights, I give up...why is it that you hate Lincoln so much?  

[J-Mann]

Rord

Heh...yeah, he sucked big time.

[dazzleman]

I'd have to say Carter, especially since Maddox had to serve as Lt. Gov. under him simply because of a term limit kept him from being reelected Governor.  If it hadn't been for term limits, y'all could have had President Maddox instead of President Carter and the Democrats wouldn't be in the mess that they are today.

Carter sucked as president, but he was hardly overrated.  Even hard-core Democrats admit that he was a horrible president.

Where he has been overrated is in his post-presidential work.  He f**ked up the whole North Korea situation when he went there as Clinton's emissary and has become little more than a tiresome scold, criticizing the conduct of his successor on issues where he himself failed miserably (which is just about everything).

I'd have to say the most overrated president was JFK.  I have nothing against him, but he was president far too short a time to have accomplished anything commensurate with the ratings some have given him.  He is rated highly because of his assassination, not because of anything he did.

[Red Button]

Reagan.  Good man, he just does not deserve the praise Republicans heap upon him.

[qwerty]

George W Bush!  The guy is a g moron.  I do like his ears and his smile though. 

Your maturity is inspiring.

[??????????]

OK, StatesRights, I give up...why is it that you hate Lincoln so much?

Well, I thought we had this debate as to why I dislike this treasonous villian.

[Bono]

StatesRights got it right. Do we really need to repeat over and over the atrocities comitted by Lincoln before all that public school propaganda makes it out of your head?

Not even talking about the trampling of the 10th ammendment, he wanted to arrest the Chief Justice Because he questioned his strategy;
he turned a free federal republic into a centralized tyranny. The reason he pursued the war was to serve the interests of the moneyed republicans who got elected in the first place, and felt the need to control teh south economically. His army slaughtered the indians. Early on his career, he defended the constitution granted southern states the right to regulate their labor laws as the pleased. He as a lawyer defended slaveholders.
Finally, he superseed a hoorendous ammount of war crimes, in an uncostitutional war against sovereign states , exerting their constitutional right to seceed.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

His army slaughtered the indians.

Can you name me a 19th Century President who didn't pursue a policy of war against some Indian tribe or another?

[A18]

Since when do states have a constitutional right to secede? Not that I like Lincoln, BTW.

[J-Mann]

OK, StatesRights, I give up...why is it that you hate Lincoln so much?

Well, I thought we had this debate as to why I dislike this treasonous villian.

If you think I'm following every single post on every thread on this board, you're dillusional.  You probably did speak of this somewhere else, so excuse me for asking.

[??????????]

OK, StatesRights, I give up...why is it that you hate Lincoln so much?

Well, I thought we had this debate as to why I dislike this treasonous villian.

If you think I'm following every single post on every thread on this board, you're dillusional.  You probably did speak of this somewhere else, so excuse me for asking.

I apologize, I didn't mean it as an insult. I just thought me and you had debated this. But if we didn't I apologize.

[danwxman]

Dick Cheney.

[Redefeatbush04]

George W Bush!  The guy is a g moron.  I do like his ears and his smile though. 

Your maturity is inspiring.

"I'll slam your head in a car door"

[J-Mann]

George W Bush!  The guy is a g moron.  I do like his ears and his smile though. 

Your maturity is inspiring.

"I'll slam your head in a car door"

Kiss my ass you pony-tailed piece of street trash.

Haha, I love when you quote Nixon...I have to click on the threads and go back and read them.  Trust me, they keep me rolling!

[Bono]

His army slaughtered the indians.

Can you name me a 19th Century President who didn't pursue a policy of war against some Indian tribe or another?

That's the only thing you could find?

[Beet]

Bono, your arguments are like saying Thomas Jefferson was a slaveowner, thus he is overrated.

Lincoln will be remembered primarily for his prosecuting the federal side of the civil war and for the emancipation proclamation. All of those other things had no or negligible impact on the nation's history. These two things had a massive impact and are what create the name of Lincoln. Depending on your view of these two events, your view of Lincoln will be shaped.

[Bono]

Bono, your arguments are like saying Thomas Jefferson was a slaveowner, thus he is overrated.

Lincoln will be remembered primarily for his prosecuting the federal side of the civil war and for the emancipation proclamation. All of those other things had no or negligible impact on the nation's history. These two things had a massive impact and are what create the name of Lincoln. Depending on your view of these two events, your view of Lincoln will be shaped.

I was merely arguing that he was a terrible man, who deserved to be killed, someone asked why did we hated him.