Why shouldn't I support McCain?

[Jake]

Which is basically unworkable when you break it down.

And John McCain is only a tolerable alternative. He'll be good on spending, the environment, and won't make naive decisions with foreign policy.

It'd be nice for a mature national discussion to evolve about Iraq; you know, one that acknowledges that going in was stupid and the strategy for four years was stupid, but that there aren't any "good" choices to make right now regarding the War. The chances of that happening with this bunch aren't very good.

And for hopefully the final time, Democrats should not be saying they're better on spending than George Bush. It's a horrible argument to be making.

[MarkWarner08]

Which is basically unworkable when you break it down.

And John McCain is only a tolerable alternative. He'll be good on spending, the environment, and won't make naive decisions with foreign policy.

It'd be nice for a mature national discussion to evolve about Iraq; you know, one that acknowledges that going in was stupid and the strategy for four years was stupid, but that there aren't any "good" choices to make right now regarding the War. The chances of that happening with this bunch aren't very good.

And for hopefully the final time, Democrats should not be saying they're better on spending than George Bush. It's a horrible argument to be making.

I entirely agree with your first two paragraphs. My one area of disagreement involves your belief that Bush is somehow superior to Democrats on fiscal conservatism. Even conservatives such has Grover Norquist acknowledge that Bush has overseen the greatest expansion of non-defense discretionary spending since the Great Society.

President Bush's record on fiscal matters is a testament to his commitment to oxymoronical big government conservatism. After years of being bludgeoned by the right for overspending, Democrats have every right to seize this issue and reclaim the edge on fiscal matters.

[Jake]

I wasn't making that claim, merely the claim that Democrats shouldn't pat themselves on the back for not being as bad on spending as Bush. It's like saying you only raped someone, not raped and murdered them.

[bullmoose88]

President Bush's record on fiscal matters is a testament to his commitment to oxymoronical big government conservatism. After years of being bludgeoned by the right for overspending, Democrats have every right to seize this issue and reclaim the edge on fiscal matters.

When did the Democrats ever have an edge on fiscal matters?

I mean, Bush is pretty bad...outright miserable...but its not like the Dems have a good track record on this either...yeah...6 of Clinton's 8 years...restrained by the GOP congress (when it had the cajones to not rubber stamp)...

Not exactly the best fiscal foundation.

[opebo]

President Bush's record on fiscal matters is a testament to his commitment to oxymoronical big government conservatism. After years of being bludgeoned by the right for overspending, Democrats have every right to seize this issue and reclaim the edge on fiscal matters.

When did the Democrats ever have an edge on fiscal matters?

I mean, Bush is pretty bad...outright miserable...but its not like the Dems have a good track record on this either...yeah...6 of Clinton's 8 years...restrained by the GOP congress (when it had the cajones to not rubber stamp)...

Not exactly the best fiscal foundation.

Oh please, bullmoose, 'fiscal responsibility' is about taxation, not spending.

Anyway, I find it absurd that anyone who would consider calling themselves a Democrat would consider voting for the awful joke McCain.  People, he's a loon, a megalomaniac, a horrible person, and his ideology is pure Bush fascism.  Plus he is even more ignorant than Bush, but in fairness I think that's senility more than idiocy.