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« on: February 26, 2008, 01:02:48 AM »

I just hear them tearing into each other every day and it's like sheesh - one of them could kill the party's chances for the sake of winning the nomination.
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« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2008, 01:18:34 AM »

I just hear them tearing into each other every day and it's like sheesh - one of them could kill the party's chances for the sake of winning the nomination.

I think the Obama-Clinton spat could potentially cause an opening for McCain.
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« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2008, 01:25:52 AM »

No, it will be over in 1 week, Hillary will surrender on midnight and Obama can focus on defeating McCain.
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« Reply #3 on: February 26, 2008, 01:52:15 AM »

This infighting is extremely mild compared to the Bush-McCain rift in 2000. So no, it won't be a factor. Clinton will endorse Obama as soon as she drops out.
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« Reply #4 on: February 26, 2008, 01:53:48 AM »

This infighting is extremely mild compared to the Bush-McCain rift in 2000. So no, it won't be a factor. Clinton will endorse Obama as soon as she drops out.

To quote a very wise man, "You underestimate the power of the dark side."
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« Reply #5 on: February 26, 2008, 02:00:28 AM »

This infighting is extremely mild compared to the Bush-McCain rift in 2000. So no, it won't be a factor. Clinton will endorse Obama as soon as she drops out.

To quote a very wise man, "You underestimate the power of the dark side."

Not comparable to the South Carolina robocalls. Clinton has not stooped that low, nor will she.
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« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2008, 09:17:42 AM »

It only works out if Killary drops out March 4, and she has to endorse Obama.

If that will not happen, there is basically no way for either Obama or Killary to the WH in 08.
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« Reply #7 on: February 26, 2008, 09:26:50 AM »

This infighting is extremely mild compared to the Bush-McCain rift in 2000. So no, it won't be a factor. Clinton will endorse Obama as soon as she drops out.

I wish I could be so confident that she ever will drop out.   
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« Reply #8 on: February 26, 2008, 09:39:42 AM »

It only works out if Killary drops out March 4, and she has to endorse Obama.

If that will not happen, there is basically no way for either Obama or Killary to the WH in 08.

that's a pretty bold prediction...which I don't agree with.
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« Reply #9 on: February 26, 2008, 10:47:46 AM »

This infighting is extremely mild compared to the Bush-McCain rift in 2000. So no, it won't be a factor. Clinton will endorse Obama as soon as she drops out.

There's a big difference. McCain never had a fraction of the base of support Obama/Hillary has.  There wasn't much healing that needed to go on in 2000. It's sort of like talking about Gore trying to heal the party from when he beat Bill Bradley.   At no point were either McCain or Bradley in the lead. Both Hillary and Obama have been in the lead this year.
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« Reply #10 on: February 26, 2008, 11:04:55 AM »

It pains me to say this but if Obama wins the Democratic nomination Clinton could act very duplicitly behind the scenes to undermine his chances in November. Were Clinton to win by fair means (i.e. most votes, most pledged delegates), however, Obama will actively support her campaign

Woe betide any man who stands between the lady and what she feels is her entitlement

Obama has proved himself on the campaign trail a much bigger man than what she is a woman. I don't like the tone she has taken these past few days or how Bill Clinton sought to polarise the South Carolina primary along racial lines by effectively stigmatising Obama as the 'black' candidate - an act in itself which forced me to withdraw my endorsement of Sen. Clinton

I hope I'm wrong - and Democrats will unite to take on McCain, who offers nothing but a continuation of a failing status quo

Obama needs to stay on message . It's served him well, thus far, and run a positive Smiley campaign moving forward

McCain, of course, has his own problems but with the New York Times busting its gut to do him a good turn Roll Eyes, the Democratic nominee sure has a fight on his or her hands

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« Reply #11 on: February 26, 2008, 11:11:18 AM »

It pains me to say this but if Obama wins the Democratic nomination Clinton could act very duplicitly behind the scenes to undermine his chances in November. Were Clinton to win by fair means (i.e. most votes, most pledged delegates), however, Obama will actively support her campaign

Woe betide any man who stands between the lady and what she feels is her entitlement

Obama has proved himself on the campaign trail a much bigger man than what she is a woman. I don't like the tone she has taken these past few days or how Bill Clinton sought to polarise the South Carolina primary along racial lines by effectively stigmatising Obama as the 'black' candidate - an act in itself which forced me to withdraw my endorsement of Sen. Clinton

I hope I'm wrong - and Democrats will unite to take on McCain, who offers nothing but a continuation of a failing status quo

Obama needs to stay on message . It's served him well, thus far, and run a positive Smiley campaign moving forward

McCain, of course, has his own problems but with the New York Times busting its gut to do him a good turn Roll Eyes, the Democratic nominee sure has a fight on his or her hands

Dave

Well, honestly, I can't fault their logic that the losing candidate for the nomination would be in a strong position in 2012 against John McCain running for re-election.  If a Democrat wins this year, Hillary most certainly will have no chance at all of becoming President ever again. Obama is better positioned, but, still he needs to strike while the iron is hot-- this year or in 2012.
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« Reply #12 on: February 26, 2008, 11:52:25 AM »

I don't think it has been that bad so far. In fact I think the contest has been somewhat refreshing and possibly even helpful to the party as a whole as the campaign has also involved a good bit of overt soul-searching, something which the Democrats have been in dire need of. It seems increasingly likely that the next Democratic President will come as a result of a realigning election.
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« Reply #13 on: February 26, 2008, 01:58:52 PM »

I don't think it has been that bad so far. In fact I think the contest has been somewhat refreshing and possibly even helpful to the party as a whole as the campaign has also involved a good bit of overt soul-searching, something which the Democrats have been in dire need of. It seems increasingly likely that the next Democratic President will come as a result of a realigning election.

I checked out DU and there is a lot of Obama hate and Hillary hate from Hillary and Obama supporters, respectively. I'm not sure how it will sort out.
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« Reply #14 on: February 26, 2008, 02:42:48 PM »

This infighting is extremely mild compared to the Bush-McCain rift in 2000. So no, it won't be a factor. Clinton will endorse Obama as soon as she drops out.

Clinton has run by far the nastier campaign of the two, but even that doesn't compare to the vile rumors Bush was spreading about McCain in 2000. Therefore I would say Hillary supporters are less alienated from Obama than Obama supporters are from Hillary. Obama will use his charisma to appeal to Hillary supporters and remind them that the alternative is 4 more years of neo-con rule.
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« Reply #15 on: February 26, 2008, 05:50:35 PM »

Considering that Clinton's the one starting all of the fights, I would say that it will have no effect on Obama in the general.
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« Reply #16 on: February 26, 2008, 08:30:01 PM »

8 years of an unpopular war and a very unpopular Republican president is far more worse than a couple months of Democratic bickering IMHO.
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« Reply #17 on: February 26, 2008, 08:41:19 PM »

Yeah, I think they'll be willing to put all their differences aside when it comes to the general election no matter what kind of crap Hillary spreads about Obama. If Obama wins, she'll just have to accept if she doesn't want to risk torpedoing the Democrats' chance at victory.
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