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« on: February 25, 2008, 08:57:17 PM »
« edited: February 25, 2008, 09:06:52 PM by True Democrat »

Remember, this is for the Clinton or Obama to be President, not to be the Democratic nominee.  So if you had to choose, who would it be?
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« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2008, 08:58:53 PM »

Remember, this is for the Clinton or Hillary to be President, not to be the Democratic nominee.  So if you had to choose, who would it be?

Slim pickins', eh? Wink
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« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2008, 09:06:36 PM »

Remember, this is for the Clinton or Hillary to be President, not to be the Democratic nominee.  So if you had to choose, who would it be?

Slim pickins', eh? Wink

Perhaps a Freudian slip by me.
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« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2008, 09:07:30 PM »

Obama, obviously. Should he get the nomination, I will be an undecided voter.
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« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2008, 09:19:59 PM »

Hillary, as sad as it makes me to say it. Obama is way too far-left for me. I know that with Hillary, she would govern from the center on most issues thanks to Bill.
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« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2008, 09:29:58 PM »

Obama.
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« Reply #6 on: February 25, 2008, 09:36:47 PM »
« Edited: February 25, 2008, 09:38:34 PM by Frodo »

Obama is more reasonable on domestic issues, such as health care, strange as it is for me to say it.  As for foreign policy, there isn't much of a difference between the two by this point.  So, Obama by default. 
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« Reply #7 on: February 25, 2008, 09:40:52 PM »

Hillary Clinton would be a better (and more interesting) President.

Obama is just plain boring.
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« Reply #8 on: February 25, 2008, 09:42:41 PM »

I trust Hillary more on foreign policy. I also think she'd have less of a mandate to do stupid and ridiculous things. And she'd be easier to defeat in 2012. But, there's the 10% chance Barack actually accomplishes his vision and solves a lot of problems. That chance is near 0% for Hillary.
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« Reply #9 on: February 25, 2008, 09:49:04 PM »

I trust Hillary more on foreign policy. I also think she'd have less of a mandate to do stupid and ridiculous things. And she'd be easier to defeat in 2012. But, there's the 10% chance Barack actually accomplishes his vision and solves a lot of problems. That chance is near 0% for Hillary.

What is his vision again, btw?

Anyway, not a Republican, but Hillary, mainly b/c of the foreign policy thing, as Jake mentions.
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« Reply #10 on: February 25, 2008, 09:49:32 PM »

Since I vote Republican most often, Oooooooooobama
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« Reply #11 on: February 25, 2008, 09:51:14 PM »

Since I'm temporarily registered as a Republican I'll bend the rules and say Obama.
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« Reply #12 on: February 25, 2008, 09:52:17 PM »

The whole end corruption, poverty, racism, etc.

Yeah, change that too maybe 1% chance of accomplishing that.

Hillary BTW.
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« Reply #13 on: February 25, 2008, 11:08:46 PM »

Obama.
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« Reply #14 on: February 25, 2008, 11:10:06 PM »

Obama
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« Reply #15 on: February 25, 2008, 11:14:23 PM »

Hill, she's more moderate than Obama, whose way to liberal for me Sad>
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« Reply #16 on: February 26, 2008, 12:55:39 AM »

Clinton
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« Reply #17 on: February 26, 2008, 01:00:28 AM »

Clinton - she's more moderate.
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« Reply #18 on: February 26, 2008, 01:03:18 AM »

I really can't bring myself to say either of them. It's that hard for me. Everytime I go to say one of them, I take a step back and think about it.
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« Reply #19 on: February 26, 2008, 01:06:59 AM »

I think a lot of Republicans are in GE mode.

Actually, Obama's more moderate than Clinton on health care, which is their biggest policy difference.
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« Reply #20 on: February 26, 2008, 02:13:17 AM »

Obama

I would like to keep Ms. Clinton as far away from the White House as possible.
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« Reply #21 on: February 26, 2008, 03:14:12 AM »
« Edited: February 26, 2008, 03:16:01 AM by Htmldon, voted most partisan member 3 years in a row! »

I really can't bring myself to say either of them. It's that hard for me. Everytime I go to say one of them, I take a step back and think about it.

I'm the same way.  I certainly like Obama more, and believe he is sincere in his bipartisanship.  When he mentions Republicans in a nice way on the stump, it kinda feels good.  He at least claims to go beyond the idiotic red-blue divide that has plagued our politics for years.  That message totally resonates with me.  I must admit I was a little excited... maybe even giddy... that someone might be willing to tear down the Berlin wall that Rush Limbaugh and MoveOn built up.

....then I started thinking about it.  Obama was an Illinois State Senator at the time of the last Presidential election.  I find it amazing that he can claim to have been against the war in 2003... I didn't realize that the foreign policy positions of Illinois legislators were taken so seriously.  Did he see the classified briefings, read the reports that the real Senators got - how can we compare the record of New York's U.S. Senator Clinton to District 13 State Senator Obama?   Obama has also chosen to attend a Church that praises hatred for non-black Americans.... why is this not an issue?

He doesn't believe that he can wait to put his original ideas into effect - he is running because of the "fierce urgency of now".  Ohh...wait... he copied that thought from Hillary Clinton Smiley  (I did laugh at "Change you can Xerox" Smiley)

I am loyal to President Bush, but one thing that is increasingly irritating is how conservatism has been directed from a legitimate intellectual and social viewpoint into a mere ideological justification for selfishness and greed.  We've lost our purpose as a nation, we have lost the spirit of self-sacrifice for a common cause that helped make our country great.  Obama speaks to that, he articulates it in a way that inspires Americans to do something better, to seek greatness.   I really, really, like that about him - and wish that my Party would join the cause as well.  Both liberalism and conservatism seem to be ideologies bourne in personal selfishness, and I am anxious for both worldviews to grow out of it - before they destroy our common destiny.

Do I want a President who can articulate that message?  Of course, and if that were my only standard, Obama would be my guy.  Fortunately, for us Republicans, we have chosen a man who not only speaks about sacrifice, he has lived it - and has represented America's hopes and dreams in the U.S. Senate for more than just a few mere years.  John McCain doesn't just talk about bipartisanship, he has fought for it and risked his standing in his own Party for it.  But that's off the topic Smiley

Clinton clearly has more experience, more knowledge, and knows how to be a good President on day one.  She also has a horrible demeanor and is hated by half the population.  She would make the red/blue divide worse, and damage the country's broken politics further.

Obama has little experience, hasn't shown the depth of knowledge, and probably just knows the address of the White House.  Maybe he could unite the country as a great President... or maybe he will be Jimmy Carter Mark II.  We just don't know.

In other words, I can't pick my poision here.  The choices are just too bad.

Obama is more reasonable on domestic issues, such as health care, strange as it is for me to say it.  As for foreign policy, there isn't much of a difference between the two by this point.  So, Obama by default. 

Thank you, fellow Republican Smiley
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« Reply #22 on: February 26, 2008, 04:04:25 AM »

Clinton by far. On foreign policy, general moderateness, and experience.
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« Reply #23 on: February 26, 2008, 08:55:44 AM »

Clinton by far. On foreign policy, general moderateness, and experience.

Experience? 
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« Reply #24 on: February 26, 2008, 12:11:11 PM »

I would like to keep Ms. Clinton as far away from the White House as possible.

both her and McCain need to be kept far away from the white house
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