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Thomas Jackson
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« on: February 18, 2008, 09:10:12 PM »

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It's over

I'd be happy to be wrong. For a variety of reasons, I'd prefer Hillary Clinton to be the Democratic presidential nominee.

But it's not going to happen. She'll be clobbered in Wisconsin tomorrow. She might run ahead, even win, the popular vote in Texas, but the delegate count will be close, probably pro-Obama. The media talk, the popular mood, the times -- they all work for Obama.

Finally, there's been the Clinton campaign. Fighting, seriously, today about Obama's borrowing of rhetoric from a friend is a sign of desperation. Obama is derivative. So is everyone. And Bill Clinton --  who knew? -- has proved to be a negative.

The media megaphone can't be underestimated.

Some of it is crazy. Some of it unfair. So is life.

Obama will win the nomination. Polls today say he'll beat McCain everywhere -- in every key state and nationally. Those same polls said the same thing about Hillary Clinton's sure dominance a few months ago.

For the record.

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« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2008, 09:15:12 PM »

It ain't over until Hillary sings.
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« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2008, 09:16:51 PM »

http://youtube.com/watch?v=bfZ_gXCHaMw

Let's hope it's not over any time soon then...
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« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2008, 09:31:53 PM »

lol
I am better at singing than her and I absolutley suck.
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« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2008, 09:34:56 PM »

This is just the campaign setting expectations and trying to get her base motivated, not an actual sign of defeat.
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« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2008, 09:50:56 PM »

We'll see what happens tommorrow. I'm on the verge of switching over to Obama. But then again I always say that.
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« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2008, 09:55:39 PM »

Structurally, from tomorrow until April 23, at least, the circumstances favor Hillary.
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« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2008, 10:43:28 PM »

Structurally, from tomorrow until April 23, at least, the circumstances favor Hillary.

yeah but if Obama wins tomorrow, the momentum of the race will be clearly on his side, people who wouldn't vote for him otherwise will start looking at him, and Hillary will be without funds and without a victory in weeks.
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« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2008, 11:28:37 PM »

Structurally, from tomorrow until April 23, at least, the circumstances favor Hillary.

yeah but if Obama wins tomorrow, the momentum of the race will be clearly on his side, people who wouldn't vote for him otherwise will start looking at him, and Hillary will be without funds and without a victory in weeks.

Even if Obama wins tomorrow, it is still structurally Clinton's race until 4/23.  There may be an Obama victory in WI, but I don't expect a large one.  I don't expect a large Clinton victory in TX.  Structurally, the schedule favors Clinton until 4/23, at least.

I fully expect this to be ongoing until PR.
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« Reply #9 on: February 19, 2008, 05:04:38 AM »

This is just the campaign setting expectations and trying to get her base motivated, not an actual sign of defeat.

Actually I've been hearing rumors of private defeatism from Hillary's campaign for weeks - through my friends who have connections to the old St. Louis machine.  But you know how those old-timers are - they love to act like they have the insider information.
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« Reply #10 on: February 20, 2008, 02:11:06 PM »

Structurally, from tomorrow until April 23, at least, the circumstances favor Hillary.

yeah but if Obama wins tomorrow, the momentum of the race will be clearly on his side, people who wouldn't vote for him otherwise will start looking at him, and Hillary will be without funds and without a victory in weeks.

Even if Obama wins tomorrow, it is still structurally Clinton's race until 4/23.  There may be an Obama victory in WI, but I don't expect a large one.  I don't expect a large Clinton victory in TX.  Structurally, the schedule favors Clinton until 4/23, at least.

I fully expect this to be ongoing until PR.

LOL
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« Reply #11 on: February 20, 2008, 03:58:49 PM »

Structurally, from tomorrow until April 23, at least, the circumstances favor Hillary.

That might've been true a few weeks ago, but not any more.
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« Reply #12 on: February 20, 2008, 04:43:36 PM »


Just send it to the convention.  That's all she needs to do.  Come on Killary!
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« Reply #13 on: February 20, 2008, 04:46:20 PM »

It won't go to the convention. The democrats have lucked out...for now.
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« Reply #14 on: February 20, 2008, 04:49:45 PM »


Why do we have public schools, anyway?
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« Reply #15 on: February 20, 2008, 04:50:16 PM »


Just send it to the convention.  That's all she needs to do.  Come on Killary!

It won't go that far; even if they more or less tie in pledged delegates, a deal would be made over the summer before the convention. However, I sincerely hope that no such deal would be made; it would be ridiculously entertaining to see a brokered convention between Obama and Hillary.
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« Reply #16 on: February 20, 2008, 04:50:50 PM »


I hhope you don't mean that.
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