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« on: February 18, 2008, 06:39:05 PM »

not a big sample size, but still shows a clear Obama lead

http://www.touchtonepoll.com/

CD1:

BHO 58
HRC 26
UND 16

CD2
BHO 55
HRC 23
UND 22
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« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2008, 06:40:09 PM »

Who exactly are TouchTonePoll.com?
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« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2008, 06:41:32 PM »
« Edited: February 18, 2008, 06:45:06 PM by Verily »

The only people daring enough to poll Hawaii, apparently. And if you put the two polls (of the two CDs) together, the MoE isn't dreadfully small (5%).
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« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2008, 06:46:21 PM »


I can easily tell it's better than ARG.
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« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2008, 06:46:35 PM »

The only people daring enough to poll Hawaii, apparently. And if you put the two polls (of the two CDs) together, the MoE isn't dreadfully small (5%).

True. And the numbers look "right".

But...

...the name "TouchTonePolling.com"... um...
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« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2008, 06:48:48 PM »

Okay... so way cool. These are streaming LIVE RESULTS. as respondents answer, the totals are updated... WOW
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« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2008, 06:49:53 PM »

Here's their "polling archive":

http://ttpoll.com/archive.atm
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« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2008, 06:50:49 PM »

The only people daring enough to poll Hawaii, apparently. And if you put the two polls (of the two CDs) together, the MoE isn't dreadfully small (5%).

True. And the numbers look "right".

But...

...the name "TouchTonePolling.com"... um...

SUSA uses touch tones, too. But, yeah, the name is bad.

They did okay in California for the Democrats, though they totally fubbed the Republicans (probably because of their 55-person sample size). And, since it's all robo-calls, they don't press undecideds. They did well in Nevada, too, though again fubbing the Republicans. (That time everyone else screwed up and underestimated Romney, too; they did have Paul's support high.)
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« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2008, 06:52:41 PM »

Those "undecideds" probably are people who are just not going to vote, especially considering it's a caucus. That's most likely the explanation for double digits undecided the day before the vote, for many it probably just means "will not attend caucus'.
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« Reply #9 on: February 18, 2008, 07:03:11 PM »

sample size of 164.

toss.
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« Reply #10 on: February 18, 2008, 07:03:48 PM »


Sample size is 375 (and counting), if you bothered to read the page.
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« Reply #11 on: February 18, 2008, 07:04:58 PM »

And responses are still coming in. They polled over 700 for Nevada.
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« Reply #12 on: February 18, 2008, 08:14:22 PM »

Does anyone else find it kind of odd Obama does better in District 2? Not necessarily impossible, just odd.
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« Reply #13 on: February 18, 2008, 08:16:49 PM »

Does anyone else find it kind of odd Obama does better in District 2? Not necessarily impossible, just odd.

A bit. I'm guessing that HI-02 is the more Asian and Native district, although it could be the other way around. It may be different because Chelsea Clinton has been campaigning in HI-01, or maybe because being a Hawaii native is less important to residents of the more cosmopolitan Honolulu than to residents of outer Oahu and the other islands.
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« Reply #14 on: February 18, 2008, 08:47:04 PM »

Current overall numbers are:

Obama: 57%
Clinton: 25%
Undecided: 18%

n=503, MoE=4.4%
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« Reply #15 on: February 18, 2008, 09:08:20 PM »

Does anyone else find it kind of odd Obama does better in District 2? Not necessarily impossible, just odd.

A bit. I'm guessing that HI-02 is the more Asian and Native district, although it could be the other way around. It may be different because Chelsea Clinton has been campaigning in HI-01, or maybe because being a Hawaii native is less important to residents of the more cosmopolitan Honolulu than to residents of outer Oahu and the other islands.

Well the numbers are roughly equal now, though not in the Wednesday poll.
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« Reply #16 on: February 18, 2008, 09:18:28 PM »

No clue if this poll is worth anything but I do expect results similar to what they are showing.
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« Reply #17 on: February 19, 2008, 08:26:21 AM »

Final numbers give Obama around 59% but thanks to the undecideds it's actually quite over that. I'm sure anyone undecided now just won't vote considering it's a caucus anyway.
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« Reply #18 on: February 20, 2008, 03:42:11 AM »

Throwing out undecideds, it's a 72-28 victory for Obama. Judging by the actual results, I think we'll be hearing from these guys again.
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