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« Reply #25 on: February 16, 2008, 12:33:35 AM »

Obama - Bradley

Oh, I'd love it. That would be the most left wing ticket since...what...Mondale - Ferraro? Go for it, guys.
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« Reply #26 on: February 16, 2008, 03:06:22 AM »


why not bill bradley?  has tons of experience.  definitely smart.  popular with the liberals.  now, he isnt mr. charisma...but obama's vp doesnt have to be.


I'm not sure that Obama has any need to shaw-up his support amougst the Democratic base as such, his biggest need in a veep is somone who provides foreign policy achumen and political experiance, an apeal to blue-collar voters would be no bad thing either and it would be best if that running mate had current experiance (Bradley been out of politics for nearly a decade).   
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« Reply #27 on: February 16, 2008, 05:03:41 AM »

ive been thinking about this.

it seems rather simple to me...obama needs someone with experience, intelligence and a statesmen-like aura...who would be acceptable to the democrat base.

why not bill bradley?  has tons of experience.  definitely smart.  popular with the liberals.  now, he isnt mr. charisma...but obama's vp doesnt have to be.



Well, normally I would say that no one is going to put someone who has to be periodically revived on the ticket, but Bush/Cheney proved us wrong there.
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« Reply #28 on: February 16, 2008, 09:24:40 AM »

Biden or Richardson
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« Reply #29 on: February 16, 2008, 09:45:57 AM »

What about Brian Schwietzer?  He's a governor with red-state appeal, he wounldn't bring Montana, but would help in states like Missouri, Ohio, West Virginia, and Iowa.  He fits with Obama's message, he's charasmatic and he is not so ambitious that he would constantly try to upstage Obama.  In my opinion, Biden would be much a better Secretary of State.  Bradley wounldn't bring anything to the ticket and might even hurt the ticket.
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« Reply #30 on: February 16, 2008, 11:24:00 AM »

Obama needs an experienced, especially in foreign affairs, party stalwart who did not back Clinton...John Kerry anyone? Smiley
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« Reply #31 on: February 16, 2008, 12:29:00 PM »

What about Brian Schwietzer?  He's a governor with red-state appeal, he wounldn't bring Montana, but would help in states like Missouri, Ohio, West Virginia, and Iowa.  He fits with Obama's message, he's charasmatic and he is not so ambitious that he would constantly try to upstage Obama.  In my opinion, Biden would be much a better Secretary of State.  Bradley wounldn't bring anything to the ticket and might even hurt the ticket.
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« Reply #32 on: February 16, 2008, 12:51:17 PM »


another 1 term senator? um, no

Also no to Bradley: he's not fresh or relevent, plus he only appeals to the same demographic that Obama appeals to. Obama needs an experienced white male Christian governor from a southern or midwestern state near or over the age of 60. Mike Easley anyone?

Biden would be a good choice on paper: good foreign policy experience, a solid liberal but not an idologue, and i forget how many terms in the Senate. Unfortunately he's a gaffe machine with a huge mouth, and a plagiarist. He's ambitious too, and would be constantly trying to steal the spotlight. And probably the last thing Obama wants is a VP who spends half his time trying to figure out how to replace him.



Strange,

I have to say -- as much as I support Biden for Obama because of his foreign policy intellect, Easley is starting to really appeal to me too.  I have lots of customers in NC and most are pretty conservative.  Republicans or Dixiecrats -- and they all love Easley. If Obama could come out and say he would off Sec. State to Biden, then Easley would have added appeal -- because Biden would still be in the mix.
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« Reply #33 on: February 16, 2008, 01:55:38 PM »

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« Reply #34 on: February 16, 2008, 02:27:03 PM »

What about Brian Schwietzer?  He's a governor with red-state appeal, he wounldn't bring Montana, but would help in states like Missouri, Ohio, West Virginia, and Iowa.  He fits with Obama's message, he's charasmatic and he is not so ambitious that he would constantly try to upstage Obama.  In my opinion, Biden would be much a better Secretary of State.  Bradley wounldn't bring anything to the ticket and might even hurt the ticket.
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Unfortunately, he's running for re-election this year. Maybe if he had won re-election last year, but as is, the chance of a 1-term governor being on the bottom of the ticket is small.
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« Reply #35 on: February 19, 2008, 08:10:09 PM »

What about Brian Schwietzer?  He's a governor with red-state appeal, he wounldn't bring Montana, but would help in states like Missouri, Ohio, West Virginia, and Iowa.  He fits with Obama's message, he's charasmatic and he is not so ambitious that he would constantly try to upstage Obama.  In my opinion, Biden would be much a better Secretary of State.  Bradley wounldn't bring anything to the ticket and might even hurt the ticket.
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« Reply #36 on: February 19, 2008, 08:20:19 PM »

I like Kaine, but there's two problems:

1-Two people on the ticket who haven't served their entire term in the office they were elected to.
2-The right wing nutjob who is Virginia's Lt. Gov.
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« Reply #37 on: February 19, 2008, 08:21:36 PM »

Obama/Dodd 08

Obama/Easley 08

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« Reply #38 on: February 19, 2008, 08:23:16 PM »

I like Kaine, but there's two problems:

2-The right wing nutjob who is Virginia's Lt. Gov.

Uh, who cares? You don't live in Virginia. It shouldn't ever become "a problem" for you.
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« Reply #39 on: February 19, 2008, 08:26:17 PM »

i think bill cohen would be a strong choice for either clinton or obama.
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« Reply #40 on: February 19, 2008, 08:28:54 PM »

He's a Republican.
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« Reply #41 on: February 19, 2008, 08:31:26 PM »


he was a republican.  i dont think he is active at all in the party now.

he also served in the clinton administration.

plus..obama is bringing us together...remember?
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« Reply #42 on: February 19, 2008, 08:32:42 PM »



plus..obama is bringing us together...remember?

Haha, exactly.
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« Reply #43 on: February 19, 2008, 08:37:53 PM »
« Edited: February 19, 2008, 08:40:48 PM by MATCHU[D] »


Please excuse me while I break up this walter/phil snugglefest....but Cohen would probably be a more suitable vp for McCain than either of the democrats. Hell him and McCain are bestest of buddies [he was McCains best man at his wedding] Tongue
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« Reply #44 on: February 19, 2008, 08:40:07 PM »


Please excuse me while I break up with walter/phil snugglefest....but Cohen would probably be a more suitable vp for McCain than either of the democrats. Hell him and McCain are bestest of buddies [he was McCains best man at his wedding] Tongue

he wouldnt be a good running mate for mccain since mac needs to appease conservatives in the south and middle west.  cohen wouldnt do that..in fact hed do the opposite.

but you bring up a good point...since he is good friends with mccain he probably wouldnt join the opposing ticket.
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« Reply #45 on: February 19, 2008, 11:51:00 PM »

Bradley, too liberal, too old, too yesterday.

Best pick for Obama, Governor Mike Easley of North Carolina.
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« Reply #46 on: February 20, 2008, 12:24:57 AM »

Easley, Sebelius or Dodd at this point. Even Richardson.
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« Reply #47 on: February 20, 2008, 01:06:55 AM »

As I stated on another thread, the name nobody is mentioning but who will probably get a lot of attention will be Sen. Jack Reed of Rhode Island.

59 years old, a two-term senator from Rhode Island, plus three terms in the House and many years in the RI state senate. He's a reliable liberal but not a Bernie Sanders-type, he's in the good graces of the party establishment and is well-liked in Washington, but he's also quite popular at home, is scrupulously honest and comes from a working class background. He only recently married and has a baby daughter.

He also sits on the Armed Services committee, is a graduate of West Point and served in the army for 12 years as a paratrooper and squadron leader in Vietnam and elsewhere. AND he's been against the Iraq War from the start.

He's also been an excellent defender of Democratic positions on security and defense issues on talk shows and TV.

Downsides: he's (quite) short and, more importantly, Rhode Island is overwhelmingly Democratic anyway.

However, if the other top options are Biden and Dodd and Obama's looking for FP and defense experience, Reed would be be a better pick than either. He has experience serving in the military, is not a gaffe-machine like Biden, is more working-class than Dodd and is younger than both of them.
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« Reply #48 on: February 20, 2008, 01:08:36 AM »

just have balls and pick Feingold.  anti-war progressive maverickish Jew.  Senate since 1993 so he has that vaunted 'experience'
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« Reply #49 on: February 20, 2008, 01:10:07 AM »

Another longshot running mate would be Sen. Jeff Bingaman of New Mexico. Obviously, if we're targeting New Mexico, Richardson seems like the more obvious pick. However, Richardson is a bit of a gaffe-machine (ala Biden) and the presence of two minorities on the ticket may not play well (unfortunately).

Bingaman is fairly low key, but he's experienced, has a generally good record, especially on environmental issues, he voted against the Iraq War and he's fairly down-to-earth and popular.

OTOH, he's also relatively old for a VP (65) and he doesn't seem particularly knowledgeable about defense or foreign policy issues. Still, he may come under consideration.
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