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Grumpier Than Uncle Joe
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« on: February 14, 2008, 01:47:35 PM »

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8UQ8OQO0&show_article=1

Like it matters but here it is.
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« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2008, 01:52:41 PM »

Just got the e-mail.  OK, well, that means he'll give him his delegates, and Huckabee is irrelevant now.  McCain has made the deal that he needed to secure the nomination.
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« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2008, 01:59:43 PM »

Yeah, Huck staying around is even more irrelevant than before.
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« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2008, 02:02:29 PM »

According Erc's numbers, if 100% of the Romney delegates went to McCain, then McCain is just about 50 delegates shy of clinching the nomination already.....which he could hypothetically get on Tuesday if he beats Huckabee by enormous margins in both the WA & WI primaries.  Otherwise, he'd presumably get there over the Feb. 23-24 weekend, when most of the US territories hold GOP caucuses/conventions.  (Assuming Puerto Ricans prefer McCain to Huckabee....which they probably would.)
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« Reply #4 on: February 14, 2008, 02:22:59 PM »

According Erc's numbers, if 100% of the Romney delegates went to McCain, then McCain is just about 50 delegates shy of clinching the nomination already.....which he could hypothetically get on Tuesday if he beats Huckabee by enormous margins in both the WA & WI primaries.  Otherwise, he'd presumably get there over the Feb. 23-24 weekend, when most of the US territories hold GOP caucuses/conventions.  (Assuming Puerto Ricans prefer McCain to Huckabee....which they probably would.)


It depends a bit on the Michigan delegation, which it's looking is being given to an "Uncommitted" slate as opposed to Romney.  So there's around 30-odd delegates that might make the difference as to timing.
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« Reply #5 on: February 14, 2008, 02:23:24 PM »

...Goddamnit.
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« Reply #6 on: February 14, 2008, 02:24:16 PM »


Why?
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« Reply #7 on: February 14, 2008, 02:24:42 PM »

Obviously Romney is sucking up to improve his chances for 2012.
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« Reply #8 on: February 14, 2008, 02:25:51 PM »

With that, I think Huckabee will stick around until he secures enough delegates to pass the number that Romney had, and then bow out.  By that point, McCain will be over the needed delegate mark, and, if for some reason McCain cannot go on, the mantle will likely be handed to Huckabee.
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« Reply #9 on: February 14, 2008, 02:26:23 PM »

My respect for Mitt Romney just went down a notch.

I never had any for him.
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« Reply #10 on: February 14, 2008, 02:27:40 PM »

McCain scares me based on his foreign policy alone, and his domestic policy is unimpressive. Even Mike Huckabee isn't that bad, because his more extreme positions like the fair tax or injecting more jesus into the constitution would probably be blocked by Congress. Not only that, but no one thinks Huckabee is anything other than a religious conservative. People genuinely believe McCain is a 'moderate Republican,' which means he could actually attract Indie and Dem support.
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« Reply #11 on: February 14, 2008, 02:29:19 PM »

McCain scares me based on his foreign policy alone, and his domestic policy is unimpressive. Even Mike Huckabee isn't that bad, because his more extreme positions like the fair tax or injecting more jesus into the constitution would probably be blocked by Congress. Not only that, but no one thinks Huckabee is anything other than a religious conservative. People genuinely believe McCain is a 'moderate Republican,' which means he could actually attract Indie and Dem support.

You can look back and remember a time when democrats were terrified of the same thing with the extremist cowboy Ronald Reagan.
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« Reply #12 on: February 14, 2008, 02:45:27 PM »
« Edited: February 14, 2008, 02:47:58 PM by Bourbon Democrat »

McCain scares me based on his foreign policy alone, and his domestic policy is unimpressive. Even Mike Huckabee isn't that bad, because his more extreme positions like the fair tax or injecting more jesus into the constitution would probably be blocked by Congress. Not only that, but no one thinks Huckabee is anything other than a religious conservative. People genuinely believe McCain is a 'moderate Republican,' which means he could actually attract Indie and Dem support.

You can look back and remember a time when democrats were terrified of the same thing with the extremist cowboy Ronald Reagan.
Reagan was an extremist fake cowboy. I view the Reagan administration as the moment the GOP jumped the shark. It got better under Newt, who was much like Romney one smart son of a bitch. But it's pretty much devolved from there.

Anyway, I could deal with a Romney or even Huckabee presidency. Hell, Romney seemed slick and intelligent enough to turn around a lot of the mistakes of the Bush administration given his record. But McCain? No way.

The endorsement isn't surprising given that Romney is pretty much your stereotypical business/secular northeast Republican even if he pretends otherwise. But it's still disappointing.
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« Reply #13 on: February 14, 2008, 03:08:35 PM »

McCain scares me based on his foreign policy alone, and his domestic policy is unimpressive. Even Mike Huckabee isn't that bad, because his more extreme positions like the fair tax or injecting more jesus into the constitution would probably be blocked by Congress. Not only that, but no one thinks Huckabee is anything other than a religious conservative. People genuinely believe McCain is a 'moderate Republican,' which means he could actually attract Indie and Dem support.

You can look back and remember a time when democrats were terrified of the same thing with the extremist cowboy Ronald Reagan.
Reagan was an extremist fake cowboy. I view the Reagan administration as the moment the GOP jumped the shark. It got better under Newt, who was much like Romney one smart son of a bitch. But it's pretty much devolved from there.

Anyway, I could deal with a Romney or even Huckabee presidency. Hell, Romney seemed slick and intelligent enough to turn around a lot of the mistakes of the Bush administration given his record. But McCain? No way.

The endorsement isn't surprising given that Romney is pretty much your stereotypical business/secular northeast Republican even if he pretends otherwise. But it's still disappointing.

You know what...you are so full of bs. If Romney were the nominee...you would be moaning about something with him, too.
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« Reply #14 on: February 14, 2008, 03:16:37 PM »

I have plenty of criticisms of Romney. But I think he's competent. Look at some of the posts I was making a few weeks ago on him, my opinion of him improved a lot. I could definitely vote for Romney under certain circumstances. If the race wound up being Obama vs. Romney I would be happy since we'd have two highly intelligent and successful minorities running against each other.
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« Reply #15 on: February 14, 2008, 03:20:48 PM »

Mixed. On a personal level, he comes off as a calculated, ruthless faux-wasp with some scary views (less so than Giuliani or Huckabee though). On the other hand, he's definitely the most pragmatic, articulate, and intelligent of the top tier Republicans particularly in regards to domestic issues. In short, he's a shark but he at least seems to know what he's talking about most of the time. He seems preferable to Hillary, but he's not my first choice for President by any stretch of the imagination.
The more I look at Romney, the more I like. His positions on domestic issues, particularly taxes,  healthcare, education, and energy look intelligent and pragmatic. His '3 Phase' plan for Iraq seems reasonable, though I would prefer to begin some troop withdrawal now. I do obviously have disagreements, criticisms, etc. but I think he could actually make a decent President.

Some proof.
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« Reply #16 on: February 14, 2008, 06:03:11 PM »

My respect for Mitt Romney just went down a notch.

I never had any for him.
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« Reply #17 on: February 14, 2008, 06:15:32 PM »


My respect for Mitt Romney ended in about 2005.
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« Reply #18 on: February 14, 2008, 06:18:34 PM »


Ditto.
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« Reply #19 on: February 14, 2008, 11:58:29 PM »

The McCain/Romney love fest, the first step towards the McCain/Romney ticket.

Awesome.

Virtually unbeatable.

The Commander In Chief and the CEO.

Either that, or President McCain will pick Romney for Secretary of the Treasury.

 
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« Reply #20 on: February 15, 2008, 12:01:14 AM »

Romney should be kicked back to Massachusetts, which deserves him for voting for Hillary.
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« Reply #21 on: February 15, 2008, 04:49:21 AM »

My respect for Mitt Romney just went down a notch.

So did mine - but eventually the party had to be unified - it would've happened eventually - now or in August.
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« Reply #22 on: February 15, 2008, 09:44:52 AM »

The McCain/Romney love fest, the first step towards the McCain/Romney ticket.

Awesome.

Virtually unbeatable.

The Commander In Chief and the CEO.

Either that, or President McCain will pick Romney for Secretary of the Treasury.

 

Romney won't see Washington DC unless he goes for a visit as a tourist.
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« Reply #23 on: February 15, 2008, 10:11:30 AM »

The McCain/Romney love fest, the first step towards the McCain/Romney ticket.

Awesome.

Virtually unbeatable.

The Commander In Chief and the CEO.

Either that, or President McCain will pick Romney for Secretary of the Treasury.

 

Aren't you being a tad too optimistic? Virtually unbeatable . McCain is certainly beatable so I doubt that Romney on the ticket makes him virtually unbeatable

McCain/Romney doesn't strike me as the ticket for Republicans to rally around given that many conservatives loathe McCain and evangelicals (not to mention the electorate at large) aren't too struck on Romney. Furthermore, those two didn't exactly look comfortable standing alongside one another yesterday. The endorsement and the acceptance of it didn't exactly sound ringing, what I heard of it

And no, I'm not one of those who thinks a Democratic victory this fall is a given; but, on the early going, it is Democrats and not Republicans who are enthusiastic - and unless Republicans can match that pound for pound come the day, they are in deep sh**t!

Of course that is not to say that 'events' couldn't realign the stars somewhat in their favor

For Republicans, especially McCain, who has problems with the base, Democrats nominating Hillary Clinton would be a gift so Democrats in TX, OH and PA, among other states, had better give that much thought

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