If Hillary loses Texas, is it over?

[falling apart like the ashes of American flags]

Not saying she will, but if she does (possible with mass crossover from Republicans to stop "the Hildebeast"), can she recover? Texas is being spun as supposedly her big comeback. If she can't comeback from it, where can she? Of course she'll probably just try to move the goalposts again ("just wait until PA!") but the writing will be on the wall.

[perdedor]

Absolutely. Especially if Obama wins Ohio as well.

[Keystone Phil]

It'll be over if she loses any of the remaining big three.

[Verily]

Yes. Not over in the sense that she will drop out, but over in the sense that there will be absolutely no way for her to win enough pledged delegates to be within 50 of Obama come the convention. And that's enough.

[exopolitician]

I think if she loses either Ohio or Texas its over...if she loses both obviously its done....but if she wins both then shes still in this...but on life support.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

I think if she loses either Ohio or Texas its over...if she loses both obviously its done....but if she wins both then shes still in this...but on life support.

I'm thinking the same way.

[AndrewTX]

Without a doubt, it'll be over for her. But she is going to stay in it till the convention.. kinda like Kucinich.

[falling apart like the ashes of American flags]

How about if she wins the popular vote but loses the delegate count thanks to low apportionment of Hispanic areas and the caucus thing?

[Keystone Phil]

How about if she wins the popular vote but loses the delegate count thanks to low apportionment of Hispanic areas and the caucus thing?

Well, like others said, it will be "over" in the sense that Obama will clearly have the advantage in terms of delegates, public support, etc. but she's going to remain in this until the convention. As long as there is a way to win the nomination, she's going to fight for it.

[J. J.]

Gigantic blow, but she stays in.  Will the Campaigner-In-Chief sit this one out, if Hillary isn't the nominee?

[Mr. Morden]

How about if she wins the popular vote but loses the delegate count thanks to low apportionment of Hispanic areas and the caucus thing?

She needs delegates...a lot of them.  If she can't even get a net gain in delegates from *Texas*, then it's hopeless.  I mean, unless you think the superdelegates are going to bail out a candidate who loses the pledged delegates, loses the popular vote, and does worse in GE polls against McCain than Obama.

[falling apart like the ashes of American flags]

How about if she wins the popular vote but loses the delegate count thanks to low apportionment of Hispanic areas and the caucus thing?

She needs delegates...a lot of them.  If she can't even get a net gain in delegates from *Texas*, then it's hopeless.  I mean, unless you think the superdelegates are going to bail out a candidate who loses the pledged delegates, loses the popular vote, and does worse in GE polls against McCain than Obama.

Very true. I'd say actually that if she loses Texas she'll change her campaign from a traditional campaign to just one big campaign to reinstate the delegates from Florida and Michigan (and even that might not be enough).

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

Gigantic blow, but she stays in.  Will the Campaigner-In-Chief sit this one out, if Hillary isn't the nominee?

He might be told to, just like Gore told him.

[exopolitician]

How about if she wins the popular vote but loses the delegate count thanks to low apportionment of Hispanic areas and the caucus thing?

She needs delegates...a lot of them.  If she can't even get a net gain in delegates from *Texas*, then it's hopeless.  I mean, unless you think the superdelegates are going to bail out a candidate who loses the pledged delegates, loses the popular vote, and does worse in GE polls against McCain than Obama.

Very true. I'd say actually that if she loses Texas she'll change her campaign from a traditional campaign to just one big campaign to reinstate the delegates from Florida and Michigan (and even that might not be enough).

I dont even think it'll matter now if Obama wins Hawaii, Wisconsin, then possibly Texas or Ohio....he'll have enough delegates to where if Clinton tries to sit the FL/MI delegates they still wont matter. I think someone said if she tried to sit them right now....Obama would only be down 8 delegates.

[falling apart like the ashes of American flags]

Gigantic blow, but she stays in.  Will the Campaigner-In-Chief sit this one out, if Hillary isn't the nominee?

Who cares? Is that the best she can do? "You better nominate me because otherwise Bill might not campaign for Obama!" Come on.

[perdedor]

Gigantic blow, but she stays in.  Will the Campaigner-In-Chief sit this one out, if Hillary isn't the nominee?

Who cares? Is that the best she can do? "You better nominate me because otherwise Bill might not campaign for Obama!" Come on.

Considering B. Clinton's recent style of campaigning, I think it would be a positive thing for Obama if Clinton were to sit it out.

[Gabu]

If Hillary loses either Texas or Ohio, I see no logical way that she can possibly get enough delegates to be the nominee.

If she loses both of them, you can officially stick a fork in her.  Not expecting that outcome, though.

[Lief 🗽]

If she loses either or them, or barely wins both of them, then there'll be pressure for her to drop out, and Obama will have it basically wrapped up. Super-delegates will begin to move to Obama and her money and polling support will dry up.

[agcatter]

She needs to win both at least 55-45 to remain viable.

[M]

Yes, it would certainly be over. But I think the Valley will deliver for her.

[Kaine for Senate '18]

G-d yes.

[Jake]

How about if she wins the popular vote but loses the delegate count thanks to low apportionment of Hispanic areas and the caucus thing?

Oooh, interesting scenario. If she wins a solid majority, but barely loses the delegate count, she'll spin it as a victory and keep fighting. There's 733 delegates up for grabs from 3-04 onwards (discounting TX), 520 of them are in distinctly pro-Clinton states (PA, IN, OH, RI, IN, WV, KY, PR, GU), 84 are in distinctly pro-Obama states (MS, VT, WY, MT*, SD*), and 119 are in tossup-ish states (OR, NC). That's ridiculously favorable to Clinton and allows her to keep fighting.

*I'm wary of assigning these to Obama as they're primaries, but I'll do so anyway.

[agcatter]

Dick Morris just said Tesas will be close because thousands of Republicans will cross over just to vote against her in order to finish her off once and for all.  Dick, you must have been reading my mind.

[falling apart like the ashes of American flags]

Dick Morris just said Tesas will be close because thousands of Republicans will cross over just to vote against her in order to finish her off once and for all.  Dick, you must have been reading my mind.

And this includes you I take it?

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

Dick Morris just said Tesas will be close because thousands of Republicans will cross over just to vote against her in order to finish her off once and for all.  Dick, you must have been reading my mind.

Is it just me... but everytime I see DM I want to suckerpunch him.