McCain/Pawlenty vs. Obama/Biden

[perdedor]

Pawlenty is way overrated.

OMG yes.

^^^

[Keystone Phil]

Florida could swing either way.

You're not even giving MN to McCain with Pawlenty on the ticket

Pawlenty is way overrated.

Yeah, and so is Obama.

[Kaine for Senate '18]

Florida could swing either way.

You're not even giving MN to McCain with Pawlenty on the ticket

Pawlenty is way overrated.

Yeah, and so is Obama.

Not nearly as much as Pawlenty

[Lief 🗽]

Obama does much better in the Deep South and the cornbelt than Kerry, but not enough to win any of the solid Republican states.

[phk]

Biden is by and far Obama's best possible VP choice, adding experience and a capable attack dog to the ticket.  He also gives needed experience on things like international efforts(Kosovo and Iraq)

A Biden ticket with Clinton or Obama assuages the majority of my fears, considering I'm 90% foreign policy in terms of my outlook.

Then again, Biden was the best guy to be president in the first place.

[AndrewTX]

I'd agree, Biden is the best choice for Obama. Biden would be an idiot not to take it. If he stays in the Senate, he'll never have a shot of being President again.

  McCain has got a lot of searching to do now, because he has to pick a conservative that will make the base happy, but not upset independent and moderates.  Pawlenty is a horrible choice for him now. Its not even the fact that he can't deliver the state in the general, as much as it is he couldn't deliver in the primary.

[Brittain33]

When people look to 2006 as evidence of Pawlenty's mad skillz, remember his Democratic opponent called a woman reporter a whore one week before the election. At that point it becomes like praising Ann Richards for having the political savvy to win an election in a conservative state against Claytie Williams.

[phk]

I'd agree, Biden is the best choice for Obama. Biden would be an idiot not to take it. If he stays in the Senate, he'll never have a shot of being President again.

  McCain has got a lot of searching to do now, because he has to pick a conservative that will make the base happy, but not upset independent and moderates.  Pawlenty is a horrible choice for him now. Its not even the fact that he can't deliver the state in the general, as much as it is he couldn't deliver in the primary.

Biden would be a better SoS.

[Smash255]

The light colors represent swing states and how I think they will turn out. The fact remains that Obama does not poll well in many southern states, Ohio, and is weak with Hispanics. McCain will win his states narrowly on the map, but he'll get enough moderates to put him over the top.

Pawlenty doesn't bring much to the ticket, and I think Minnesota still stays Democratic, as well as Iowa. Pennsylvania flips as turnout in the suburban areas is high for McCain, and New Hampshire and Wisconsin goes to McCain as well. With a Mark Warner, Virginia may flip to Obama and Missouri has a real chance to as well.

I'm skeptical with Colorado, but I think McCain carries it by 1-2%.

how the hell does Maine go for McCain??  New Hampshire, yes he won the Primary there, but that state is too far gone especially with his 100 year in Iraq comment.  Suburban Philly?  Maverick McCain of 2000 would have done well there (though wouldn't have won) the 2008 party line McCain??  No way.

[Keystone Phil]

The light colors represent swing states and how I think they will turn out. The fact remains that Obama does not poll well in many southern states, Ohio, and is weak with Hispanics. McCain will win his states narrowly on the map, but he'll get enough moderates to put him over the top.

Pawlenty doesn't bring much to the ticket, and I think Minnesota still stays Democratic, as well as Iowa. Pennsylvania flips as turnout in the suburban areas is high for McCain, and New Hampshire and Wisconsin goes to McCain as well. With a Mark Warner, Virginia may flip to Obama and Missouri has a real chance to as well.

I'm skeptical with Colorado, but I think McCain carries it by 1-2%.

how the hell does Maine go for McCain??  New Hampshire, yes he won the Primary there, but that state is too far gone especially with his 100 year in Iraq comment.  Suburban Philly?  Maverick McCain of 2000 would have done well there (though wouldn't have won) the 2008 party line McCain??  No way.

"Maverick McCain" would play well in Bucks, not really in Montco but he'd at the very least make both counties closer (which is a big help when the state is so close).

[Smash255]

The light colors represent swing states and how I think they will turn out. The fact remains that Obama does not poll well in many southern states, Ohio, and is weak with Hispanics. McCain will win his states narrowly on the map, but he'll get enough moderates to put him over the top.

Pawlenty doesn't bring much to the ticket, and I think Minnesota still stays Democratic, as well as Iowa. Pennsylvania flips as turnout in the suburban areas is high for McCain, and New Hampshire and Wisconsin goes to McCain as well. With a Mark Warner, Virginia may flip to Obama and Missouri has a real chance to as well.

I'm skeptical with Colorado, but I think McCain carries it by 1-2%.

how the hell does Maine go for McCain??  New Hampshire, yes he won the Primary there, but that state is too far gone especially with his 100 year in Iraq comment.  Suburban Philly?  Maverick McCain of 2000 would have done well there (though wouldn't have won) the 2008 party line McCain??  No way.

"Maverick McCain" would play well in Bucks, not really in Montco but he'd at the very least make both counties closer (which is a big help when the state is so close).

the McCain of 8 years ago would have, the McCain of today would not,

[Keystone Phil]

The light colors represent swing states and how I think they will turn out. The fact remains that Obama does not poll well in many southern states, Ohio, and is weak with Hispanics. McCain will win his states narrowly on the map, but he'll get enough moderates to put him over the top.

Pawlenty doesn't bring much to the ticket, and I think Minnesota still stays Democratic, as well as Iowa. Pennsylvania flips as turnout in the suburban areas is high for McCain, and New Hampshire and Wisconsin goes to McCain as well. With a Mark Warner, Virginia may flip to Obama and Missouri has a real chance to as well.

I'm skeptical with Colorado, but I think McCain carries it by 1-2%.

how the hell does Maine go for McCain??  New Hampshire, yes he won the Primary there, but that state is too far gone especially with his 100 year in Iraq comment.  Suburban Philly?  Maverick McCain of 2000 would have done well there (though wouldn't have won) the 2008 party line McCain??  No way.

"Maverick McCain" would play well in Bucks, not really in Montco but he'd at the very least make both counties closer (which is a big help when the state is so close).

the McCain of 8 years ago would have, the McCain of today would not,

Don't forget that Bucks still has a GOP machine that will be more powerful rallying around McCain than someone like Bush. The perception of McCain being a maverick will help.

[Smash255]

The light colors represent swing states and how I think they will turn out. The fact remains that Obama does not poll well in many southern states, Ohio, and is weak with Hispanics. McCain will win his states narrowly on the map, but he'll get enough moderates to put him over the top.

Pawlenty doesn't bring much to the ticket, and I think Minnesota still stays Democratic, as well as Iowa. Pennsylvania flips as turnout in the suburban areas is high for McCain, and New Hampshire and Wisconsin goes to McCain as well. With a Mark Warner, Virginia may flip to Obama and Missouri has a real chance to as well.

I'm skeptical with Colorado, but I think McCain carries it by 1-2%.

how the hell does Maine go for McCain??  New Hampshire, yes he won the Primary there, but that state is too far gone especially with his 100 year in Iraq comment.  Suburban Philly?  Maverick McCain of 2000 would have done well there (though wouldn't have won) the 2008 party line McCain??  No way.

"Maverick McCain" would play well in Bucks, not really in Montco but he'd at the very least make both counties closer (which is a big help when the state is so close).

the McCain of 8 years ago would have, the McCain of today would not,

Don't forget that Bucks still has a GOP machine that will be more powerful rallying around McCain than someone like Bush. The perception of McCain being a maverick will help.

That perception is not going to make its way to Election Day especially with Iraq.  I don't see McCain doing better than Bush did there at this point.

[Angel of Death]

I'd rather see Obama have a running mate who didn't vote for the Iraq War.

[SPQR]

People say Obama is too new to be President, they vote McCain

Pawlenty helps deliever MN, IA, and WI for McCain

LMAO