hillary's strategy has me scratching my head

[WalterMitty]

she is playing not to lose rather than playing to win.

i despise this whole 'firewall strategy'.

if she is going to pass on wisconsin, that will be a huge mistake.  it is a state she can be competitive in.  she needs to fly to wisconsin and say, if obama is going to win here, it wont be without a fight.   draw a line in the sand.

if your going to go down, go down swinging.

could you imagine if your favorite football team's coach said, 'you know we dont have much of a shot this week, so we are going to take and easy and wait until next week when we have a little better matchup'.

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The Guiliani strategy is unbeatable.

[Keystone Phil]

The Guiliani strategy is unbeatable.

This is different. She's focusing on three big states with important elements of the Dem base.

[exopolitician]

she is playing not to lose rather than playing to win.

i despise this whole 'firewall strategy'.

if she is going to pass on wisconsin, that will be a huge mistake.  it is a state she can be competitive in.  she needs to fly to wisconsin and say, if obama is going to win here, it wont be without a fight.   draw a line in the sand.

if your going to go down, go down swinging.

could you imagine if your favorite football team's coach said, 'you know we dont have much of a shot this week, so we are going to take and easy and wait until next week when we have a little better matchup'.

She going to hit Wisconsin at "somepoint" but by the time she gets there it'll be too late and Obama would have campaigned enough to carry the state comfortably.

[Duke 🇺🇸]

She does need to win Wisconsin. Otherwise, Obama may catch her in OH and TX.

The Guiliani strategy is unbeatable.

I wish I had been.

[Thereisnospoon]

The Guiliani strategy is unbeatable.

This is different. She's focusing on three big states with important elements of the Dem base.

Still, conceding more states when you can't even guarantee that there will be a victory on March 4th is asking for trouble.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

Clinton's "strategy" is fast looking like anything but.

The time is drawing near.

[WalterMitty]

The Guiliani strategy is unbeatable.

This is different. She's focusing on three big states with important elements of the Dem base.

it is different than the rudy strategy.

but i wish she was a lot more aggressive,  show people you *want to win*

i think she has been way too timid since the sc primary and all of those (unfair) accusations that the campaign was playing the race card.

[Stranger in a strange land]

The Guiliani strategy is unbeatable.

This is different. She's focusing on three big states with important elements of the Dem base.

And Florida isn't a big state with important elements of the Republican base?

[Keystone Phil]

The Guiliani strategy is unbeatable.

This is different. She's focusing on three big states with important elements of the Dem base.

And Florida isn't a big state with important elements of the Republican base?

It's one big state. Hillary will be hitting three of the biggest states.

The Guiliani strategy is unbeatable.

This is different. She's focusing on three big states with important elements of the Dem base.

Still, conceding more states when you can't even guarantee that there will be a victory on March 4th is asking for trouble.

Oh, I agree. I think she should seriously contest WI. She's going to regret it.

[exopolitician]

The Guiliani strategy is unbeatable.

This is different. She's focusing on three big states with important elements of the Dem base.

it is different than the rudy strategy.

but i wish she was a lot more aggressive,  show people you *want to win*

i think she has been way too timid since the sc primary and all of those (unfair) accusations that the campaign was playing the race card.

Coming out of Virginia Obama is going to have probably [they are guesstimating] a 100 delegate lead of Clinton...and that doesnt even include Maryland [if he wins] and DC. AND if she loses Wisconsin [and will probably lose Hawaii since they vote the same day] then shes going to be in even deeper sh!t then she already is. A 9 state loss in over a week is not good at all....and they said she would have to win in the upper 60s percentage wise in Texas, Ohio, and Pennsylvania to rout this.

[falling apart like the ashes of American flags]

Hillary probably just realizes that her people can't outvote the college kids (who'll vote...and vote...and vote...) and Milwaukee's homeless and dead.

[Thereisnospoon]

The Guiliani strategy is unbeatable.

This is different. She's focusing on three big states with important elements of the Dem base.

And Florida isn't a big state with important elements of the Republican base?

It's one big state. Hillary will be hitting three of the biggest states.

Which makes it all the more harder for her in terms of campaigning and financing.

[Keystone Phil]

The Guiliani strategy is unbeatable.

This is different. She's focusing on three big states with important elements of the Dem base.

And Florida isn't a big state with important elements of the Republican base?

It's one big state. Hillary will be hitting three of the biggest states.

Which makes it all the more harder for her in terms of campaigning and financing.

Sure, it's challenging. That's politics. It'll be harder but even more rewarding. If she wins those three, she's brought back from the political dead and has the nomination.

[Flying Dog]

The Guiliani strategy is unbeatable.

This is different. She's focusing on three big states with important elements of the Dem base.

And Florida isn't a big state with important elements of the Republican base?

It's one big state. Hillary will be hitting three of the biggest states.

Which makes it all the more harder for her in terms of campaigning and financing.

Sure, it's challenging. That's politics. It'll be harder but even more rewarding. If she wins those three, she's brought back from the political dead and has the nomination.

It depends on how much she wins by. If it's 60-40 then yeah she does, but if it's 51-49, then...not so much.

[WalterMitty]

there is one silver lining to this bad night, im very impressed with hillary's strength out in southwest va, particularly the coalfields.  looks like she is flirting with 90% in buchanan county and is over 80% in several others.

if it means anything, it shows she is still quite strong with union workers.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Must we have threads like this after every set of primaries/caucuses? Someone should compile all the very stupid things we've all been spouted in such threads.

[Thereisnospoon]

The Guiliani strategy is unbeatable.

This is different. She's focusing on three big states with important elements of the Dem base.

And Florida isn't a big state with important elements of the Republican base?

It's one big state. Hillary will be hitting three of the biggest states.

Which makes it all the more harder for her in terms of campaigning and financing.

Sure, it's challenging. That's politics. It'll be harder but even more rewarding. If she wins those three, she's brought back from the political dead and has the nomination.

That's assuming she wins all three be substantial enough margins. I find it difficult that the momentum Obama has, barring a major scandal or something of the sort, won't spill into those states and make her sweat it out more than she already has.

[MarkWarner08]

Why Clinton still has the clearest path to the Democratic nominee:

1. Clinton, Bill that is, is campaigning hard in WI. The Clintons are also running TV and radio ads that are focuses on Clinton's health care accomplishments and how they've helped Wisconsin voters.

2. Clinton's strategy is not foolhardy. If she wins RI, TX, and OH on Mar 4th, the same predictable MSM that salivating over her current fall in the polls will then trumpet the Comeback Kid 2.0 storyline. She'll claim the momentum in the race and Obama will be forced to fight hard for PA.

3. PA is the perfect Hillary state. As Keystone Phil, J.J., Supersoulty, and other PA political gurus have already noted, PA mix of older voters, blue collar whites, and the strength of machine politics give Hillary, who is backed by PA Democratic establishment a strong edge.

4. Puerto Rico. She dominated Obama among Puerto Ricans in NY, NJ, and CA on Super Tuesday. Her husband's intervention on behalf of Puerto Rican nationalists has earned Hillary some good will. Since many Hispanics don't distinguish between Bill and Hillary, the latter will benefit from the former's strong following in this community. If Puerto Rico follows historical patterns and vote like a bloc, Hillary could net up to 60 delegates in PR.

5. The Big Bang Theory. Obama never knocked out Hillary. He had a chance to do so in NH;he failed. He would've changed the race if  he'd won in CA and NJ, but he didn't. If he can't win either TX or OH, he will have wasted a month's worth of "big mo."

[Keystone Phil]

That's assuming she wins all three be substantial enough margins. I find it difficult that the momentum Obama has, barring a major scandal or something of the sort, won't spill into those states and make her sweat it out more than she already has.

The demographics still aren't good enough for him.

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4. Puerto Rico. She dominated Obama among Puerto Ricans in NY, NJ, and CA on Super Tuesday. Her husband's intervention on behalf of Puerto Rican nationalists has earned Hillary some good will. Since many Hispanics don't distinguish between Bill and Hillary, the latter will benefit from the former's strong following in this community. If Puerto Rico follows historical patterns and vote like a bloc, Hillary could net up to 60 delegates in PR.

That would be a neat trick, since their 55 pledged delegates are proportional. They have another 8 or so superdelegates.

[exopolitician]

Why Clinton still has the clearest path to the Democratic nominee:

1. Clinton, Bill that is, is campaigning hard in WI. The Clintons are also running TV and radio ads that are focuses on Clinton's health care accomplishments and how they've helped Wisconsin voters.

Bill Clinton did this in Maine and Virginia for his wife, and Clinton ads flooded Virginia airwaves for weeks on end. Check out the results...they are susprising I know

[falling apart like the ashes of American flags]

The two biggest obstacles for Hillary in Wisconsin:

1-Open primary
2-Same-day voter registration

[WalterMitty]

The two biggest obstacles for Hillary in Wisconsin:

1-Open primary
2-Same-day voter registration

that is beside the point.

she should go there and fight like hell for a week.  win or lose.

this strategy of 'im going to lose, but wait until march 4th'  is just bs.

[falling apart like the ashes of American flags]

there is one silver lining to this bad night, im very impressed with hillary's strength out in southwest va, particularly the coalfields.  looks like she is flirting with 90% in buchanan county and is over 80% in several others.

if it means anything, it shows she is still quite strong with union workers.

This is amusing form Mr. "UNIONS ARE EVIL AND THE GREAT SATAN!"