Huckabee/Santourm vs. Clinton/Richardson vs. Bloomberg/Hagel

[GPORTER]

Mike Huckabee pulls the unthinkable. He wins in the Virgnia primary and narrowly looses in the Maryland primary and wins everything else after tonight. Huckabee forces it to go to the convention with no potential nominee because it is so close after a long line of Huckabee wins as described here.

After two ballots at the RNC and still no nominee, party leaders meet together and Mike Huckabee is named as the nominee. The McCain team is stunned but they fully endorse Mike Huckabee, as do   Ron Paul and the other former GOP  candidates.

Mike Huckabee gives a rousing acceptance speech and he selects Rick Santorum of Pennsylvania as his running mate and he accepts the position.

On the democratic side, a very close race. Like the republicans, a split convention. Clinton and Obama go to the convention head to head. Al Gore, two days before the convention, chooses to support his former boss's family, and he endorses Hillary Clinton. Clinton calls him personally to thank him for his support.

On the first ballot, there is no nominee but Clinton comes within fifteen delegates of the nomination. On the second ballot, Clinton wins the nomination thanks to the super delegates and the fact that she got Florida and Michigan back into the counting. Obama endorses Clinton as the nominee.

Clinton selects Bill Richardson of New Mexico as her running mate and he accepts. Clinton gives a rousing acceptance speech.

Mike Bloomberg decides to run as an independent and he selects Chuck Hagel as his running mate and Hagel accepts.

Which ticket would win? Discuss with maps.

[Duke 🇺🇸]

In this matchup, Bloomberg may hurt the GOP more than the Democrats. Hillary is alright for most Democrats, but many Republicans think Huckabee is crazy. Bloomberg may piclup enough support to win NJ, Maine and Connecticut. He'll finish second in Massachusetts, Vermont, Rhode Island, and New Hampshire as Huckabee has very little appeal in the Northeast. Hillary will carry 40% or so in most Democratic states and will win the election handily.

[GPORTER]

In this matchup, Bloomberg may hurt the GOP more than the Democrats. Hillary is alright for most Democrats, but many Republicans think Huckabee is crazy. Bloomberg may piclup enough support to win NJ, Maine and Connecticut. He'll finish second in Massachusetts, Vermont, Rhode Island, and New Hampshire as Huckabee has very little appeal in the Northeast. Hillary will carry 40% or so in most Democratic states and will win the election handily.

How close is Pennsylvania?

[Duke 🇺🇸]

In this matchup, Bloomberg may hurt the GOP more than the Democrats. Hillary is alright for most Democrats, but many Republicans think Huckabee is crazy. Bloomberg may piclup enough support to win NJ, Maine and Connecticut. He'll finish second in Massachusetts, Vermont, Rhode Island, and New Hampshire as Huckabee has very little appeal in the Northeast. Hillary will carry 40% or so in most Democratic states and will win the election handily.

How close is Pennsylvania?

Clinton 41%
McCain 39%
Bloomberg 20%

[Kaine for Senate '18]

Clinton: 44% PV, 377 EV
Huckabee: 35% PV, 128 EV
Bloomberg: 21% PV, 33 EV

[Robespierre's Jaw]

Bloomberg/Clinton

Hillary would easily win in this matchup against Mike Huckabee and Mike Bloomberg. Why would Huckabee select Rick Santorum though? He would bring nothing to the all ready conservative GOP ticket.

[J. J.]

Bloomburg cuts into the lagging GOP ticket, but wins no states.

[AndrewTX]

Bloomberg/Suicide

 I really would hate the thought of voting in favor of Hagel (I really can't stand him), but I suppose I'd suck it up and vote for Bloomberg.

[Kaine for Senate '18]

Bloomburg cuts into the lagging GOP ticket, but wins no states.

How do we win Utah and Idaho.

[Ban my account ffs!]

Bloomberg splinters the Republican base as moderate Republicans flock to Bloomberg leaving only the evangelicals to support Huckabee.  Because of that, Huckabee only wins the deep protestant south, the plains, and the Mormon triangle. 

Bloomberg does the best in the northeast, especially in New England, but also does well in the upper midwest.

Since the Democratic party doesn't get split nearly as bad and with the double bonus of Hispanic support, Hillary wins handily, performing especially well in the desert southwest and the upper midwest.

The 3-way split leads to a Clinton win in Montana, Colorado, Arizona, Louisiana, Tennessee, Kentucky, and West Virginia.  It makes Texas and Georgia closer.

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

Huckabee gets a strong showing due to a plurality of hard-core social conservatives in many states, plus populist/protectionist economics.  Clinton keeps states where voters are fiscally and socially liberal. Bloomberg does well in areas where moderate Republicans and independents such as Perot have tended to do well - esp. voters who are generally fiscally conservative, socially moderate and pro-environment.  Huckabee also loses much Mormon support to Bloomberg. In several states there is a near three-way tie, mainly splitting for the social conservative ticket.

[GPORTER]

Glad to have quite a bit of support for this thread.

[Kaine for Senate '18]

Huckabee gets a strong showing due to a plurality of hard-core social conservatives in many states, plus populist/protectionist economics.  Clinton keeps states where voters are fiscally and socially liberal. Bloomberg does well in areas where moderate Republicans and independents such as Perot have tended to do well - esp. voters who are generally fiscally conservative, socially moderate and pro-environment.  Huckabee also loses much Mormon support to Bloomberg. In several states there is a near three-way tie, mainly splitting for the social conservative ticket.

No way Bloomberg does that well.

[Robespierre's Jaw]

Huckabee gets a strong showing due to a plurality of hard-core social conservatives in many states, plus populist/protectionist economics.  Clinton keeps states where voters are fiscally and socially liberal. Bloomberg does well in areas where moderate Republicans and independents such as Perot have tended to do well - esp. voters who are generally fiscally conservative, socially moderate and pro-environment.  Huckabee also loses much Mormon support to Bloomberg. In several states there is a near three-way tie, mainly splitting for the social conservative ticket.

No way Bloomberg does that well.

Nor does Huckabee manage to win Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania.

[perdedor]

I think people are vastly over-estimating Bloomberg's electoral capacity. For starters, while it is possible that he could pull in some GOP voters...he would most likely pull more votes away from Clinton than Huckabee. The fact that some people have him drawing enough of the GOP faithful to swing states like Idaho, Utah, and etc. to the Democrats is laughable. Most of his voters are going to be independents, who in this scenario would be more likely to vote for Clinton. On the whole, he could pull roughly 9-11%.

Clinton/Richardson - 47% - 279 EVs
Huckabee/Santorum - 43% - 259 EVs
Bloomberg/Hagel - 10% - 0 EVs