Are There Any "Conservatives" Here Who Refuse to Vote McCain?

[12th Doctor]

I'm interested to see how many Ann Coultier "Conservatives" we have here.

[MODU]

Not that I am aware of.  I know of one person in VA who fits that mold, and he can't fully defend his logic on the issue.

[J. J.]

CARL HAYDEN, possibly.

I think I'm further to the right of both of you, and while not a John Bircher, have no problem with McCain.

Gray Baurer (sp) just endorse McCain.

[Erc]

Any of you who remember me know that I am a conservative.  I wouldn't call myself an "Ann Coulter" conservative, but I don't see myself voting for McCain.

In terms of "I legitimately like Obama / Clinton better than McCain," or "I hate McCain and so will vote for the Democrats / 3rd Party / Stay Home as a result, but I would have voted for Romney/Thompson/Huckabee had they been the nominee."

[Doomer]

I really find it hard to believe that conservatives won't vote for McCain.  They sure won't stay home because they can't stand the thought of an Obama or Hillary win so they'll vote for McCain by default and however grudgingly.

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

I'm interested to see how many Ann Coultier "Conservatives" we have here.

Lord I pray there aren't {m}any.  I hope Coulter starts publicly campaigning for Hillary.

[perdedor]

I know very few of these conservatives. I think this "movement" was artificially created by big names in the conservative movement. As super Tuesday would point out, there was no real backlash against John McCain.

[Erc]

I know very few of these conservatives. I think this "movement" was artificially created by big names in the conservative movement. As super Tuesday would point out, there was no real backlash against John McCain.

The popular vote in total was, what?  40-odd for McCain, 30-odd for Romney, and 20-odd for Huckabee?  Most of the 55% of Republicans that didn't vote for him will probably end up on his side, but Super Tuesday was only an affirmation of John McCain in A) delegates and B) in the sense that everyone else did worse.

[Mr. Morden]

If there are a large number of conservatives who refuse to vote for McCain in the GE, they somehow don't seem to be showing up in the polls.

[MODU]

Agreed.  And like I said earlier, what McCain might lose from these far-right voters, he'll pick up in the monderate voters.

[CARLHAYDEN]

Any of you who remember me know that I am a conservative.  I wouldn't call myself an "Ann Coulter" conservative, but I don't see myself voting for McCain.

Nice to see you back.

Unfortunately this forum has been largely taken over by "progressives" to whom any true conservative is some nut.

[AndrewTX]

Well, I aint conservative by any stretch of the imagination, but to I had refused to vote for Romney if he got the nod. If it was Huckabee, I'd still have a problem.

 But this isn't confused to me not going out to the polls. I'd vote for every office other than the Presidency if I didn't like any of the candidates.

[CARLHAYDEN]

I really find it hard to believe that conservatives won't vote for McCain.  They sure won't stay home because they can't stand the thought of an Obama or Hillary win so they'll vote for McCain by default and however grudgingly.

Let me explain it to you simply.

While McCain may minimally be less worse in policies sought than Clinton or Obama, he is significantly more likely to suceed in getting the policies all three agree on implemented because, while Republican leaders in the Congress are likely to enthusiastically oppose liberal programs from Clinton or Obama, they less likely to oppose similiar policies sought by McCain.

As an example, compare the percentage of Republicans in Congress who supported the George H.W. Bush Tax increase of 1990, versus the number of Republicans in Congress who supported the Bill Clinton tax increase just three years latter.

In conclusion, McCain is more likely to get the liberal agenda enacted that either Clinton or Obama.

[minionofmidas]

So who're you voting for?

[CARLHAYDEN]

So who're you voting for?

We'll see who's available come November.

However, NOT McCain under any circumstances!!!

[Gustaf]

Fresh, I do remember you and I'm disappointed.

Romney supporter I suppose?

When it comes down to it, I expect very few Republicans to actually desert McCain. Neither Obama nor Clinton has much appeal to them.

[big bad fab]

I really find it hard to believe that conservatives won't vote for McCain.  They sure won't stay home because they can't stand the thought of an Obama or Hillary win so they'll vote for McCain by default and however grudgingly.

Let me explain it to you simply.

While McCain may minimally be less worse in policies sought than Clinton or Obama, he is significantly more likely to suceed in getting the policies all three agree on implemented because, while Republican leaders in the Congress are likely to enthusiastically oppose liberal programs from Clinton or Obama, they less likely to oppose similiar policies sought by McCain.

As an example, compare the percentage of Republicans in Congress who supported the George H.W. Bush Tax increase of 1990, versus the number of Republicans in Congress who supported the Bill Clinton tax increase just three years latter.

In conclusion, McCain is more likely to get the liberal agenda enacted that either Clinton or Obama.

But remember that Billary played a very liberal music in 92-94 and were only stopped by the GOP victory in midterms.

Today, it's completely different: Clinton was a liberal and still is in many respects; Obama is a true liberal, just hidden by a lot of spin; anyone of them will have A COMPLETELY DEM CONGRESS. They will be free (and that won't be Pelosi or Reid or Feingold or Dean that will have a cooling influence on their liberalism.....).
(In fact, Clinton would be more in Realpolitik than Obama, although she's more hated by conservatives).

So, anyway, they would be far more efficient than McCain in implementing liberal policies.

[Gustaf]

I won't be voting for McCain, but not because he isn't conservative enough.  I put all my eggs in one basket on the Republican side.  Since Romney won't be the nominee, I will be voting for the candidate that will get us out of the war the fastest.  But don't tell anyone, because I will be strongly opposed to a troop withdrawal while it's happening.

I don't get it.

[Gustaf]

I won't be voting for McCain, but not because he isn't conservative enough.  I put all my eggs in one basket on the Republican side.  Since Romney won't be the nominee, I will be voting for the candidate that will get us out of the war the fastest.  But don't tell anyone, because I will be strongly opposed to a troop withdrawal while it's happening.

I don't get it.

I only liked Romney out of all the current candidates, so now that he's out, I'll just pick the most politically convenient.  One of the Republican Party's disaster areas is Iraq, so I'd rather just have it not be an issue anymore.

Ah, gotcha.

[Gabu]

Any of you who remember me know that I am a conservative.  I wouldn't call myself an "Ann Coulter" conservative, but I don't see myself voting for McCain.

In terms of "I legitimately like Obama / Clinton better than McCain," or "I hate McCain and so will vote for the Democrats / 3rd Party / Stay Home as a result, but I would have voted for Romney/Thompson/Huckabee had they been the nominee."

He's a Mormon from Idaho, you have to ask?

[MODU]

He's a Mormon from Idaho, you have to ask?

Gabu..........ugh, I don't know what to say to that.

Just say "I love you man."

[J. J.]

Well, I aint conservative by any stretch of the imagination, but to I had refused to vote for Romney if he got the nod. If it was Huckabee, I'd still have a problem.

 But this isn't confused to me not going out to the polls. I'd vote for every office other than the Presidency if I didn't like any of the candidates.

I'm in a similar situation.

McCain was my first choice, but I definitely would have voted for Obama or Clinton over Huckabee and definitely Clinton over Romney.  I'd be undecided between Romney and Obama.

[Rococo4]

Im not a huge McCain fan, but he is better than either Dem nominee.  Ill be voting for Romney in the Ohio primary and then for McCain in November.

[Proud Paleoconservative]

I plan on voting for the Constitution Party Candidate.

[Downwinder]

I only liked Romney out of all the current candidates, so now that he's out, I'll just pick the most politically convenient.  One of the Republican Party's disaster areas is Iraq, so I'd rather just have it not be an issue anymore.

Good political strategy, but the Iraq War mess is going to be an issue for us for generations, whether we ignore it or not.