LOL at the Clinton hacks at mydd.com

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The main page of the website has a counter titled "2008 Nomination Delegate counter (inc FL & MI). Clinton has a nice lead due to the pledged delegates for other states not being up to date, and then for Michigan, they gave Clinton 73 delegates, and Obama 0 (uncommitted is listed separately with 55). That's some serious hackery.

[JohnnyLongtorso]

Dude, could you get over this obsession with MyDD? You might not have noticed that they have counters for both with and without Florida and Michigan. And the one without FL/MI is above the one with them.

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Dude, could you get over this obsession with MyDD? You might not have noticed that they have counters for both with and without Florida and Michigan. And the one without FL/MI is above the one with them.

Everyone reputable has Obama leading even with superdelegates. Their counter without FL and MI has Clinton up a large amount.

[Lief 🗽]

No, MyDD has been completely taken over by Clinton fanatics. Maybe not the front page, but if you look at the comments or the blogs on the side, they're all pro-Clinton.

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No, MyDD has been completely taken over by Clinton fanatics. Maybe not the front page, but if you look at the comments or the blogs on the side, they're all pro-Clinton.

Yup, their top 4 recommended diaries are pretty anti-Obama. In the interest of fairness the 5th one breaks the pattern.

[JohnnyLongtorso]

Dude, could you get over this obsession with MyDD? You might not have noticed that they have counters for both with and without Florida and Michigan. And the one without FL/MI is above the one with them.

Everyone reputable has Obama leading even with superdelegates. Their counter without FL and MI has Clinton up a large amount.

So I take it your definition of reputable is MSNBC, because I can't find anyone else that has Obama ahead. Fox News, CNN, and the AP, which is used by those right-wingers at NPR and the New York Times, all have Hillary ahead with superdelegates.

[Eleden]

No, MyDD has been completely taken over by Clinton fanatics. Maybe not the front page, but if you look at the comments or the blogs on the side, they're all pro-Clinton.

I agree.  The infestation has become ridiculous over the past few months.  Every single recommended diary has been written by a total Clinton hack.  Here are a few samples of some of the Mydd diaries that are on the top recommended list:

"Independents Will Abandon Obama"

"He ain't a saint: A citizen's guide to Barack Obama"

I swear I'm going to see a top listed diary about how Obama is supposedly a Muslim terrorist.  The overall "hackery" for Clinton is overwhelming on that site.  Jerome Armstrong and Todd Beeton (two major bloggers for mydd) appear to be banging the Clinton war drum also, and I haven't gone a day without seeing something attacking Obama in some form or another. 

I wonder if Hillary's campaign ordered supporters to invade and take over the site...

[falling apart like the ashes of American flags]

Wasn't mydd overwhelmingly pro-Obama back in 2007, moreso than Daily Kos even (which was mostly pro-Edwards)?

DU has a strong population of Clinton hacks but they are usually outnumbered and outgunned.

[Lief 🗽]

Wasn't mydd overwhelmingly pro-Obama back in 2007, moreso than Daily Kos even (which was mostly pro-Edwards)?

DU has a strong population of Clinton hacks but they are usually outnumbered and outgunned.

The Clinton fanaticism is definitely a new thing. In 2007, MyDD was generally more pro-Obama while DailyKos was more pro-Edwards. I'm not sure if the Clinton infestation over at MyDD is just a case of a very vocal majority or if they actually do make up the majority though, because I think Obama still wins the MyDD straw polls.

[Eleden]

Wasn't mydd overwhelmingly pro-Obama back in 2007, moreso than Daily Kos even (which was mostly pro-Edwards)?

DU has a strong population of Clinton hacks but they are usually outnumbered and outgunned.

It appeared to be, but right before the Iowa Caucus the site became pro-Clinton. 

[Beet]

Sorry, but when DailyKos becomes basically the arm of one person's political campaign, it is no longer a true town hall of discussion. It is the left-wing version of Free Republic; in fact, a diary to that effect was recommended a while back. But like the consumptive eater who cannot keep a diet, acknowledging the fact does not change it. The DKos has become the worst of democracy: an echo-chamber and lynch mob that no longer respects dissent. Troll rating abuse on the site has become rampant and unchecked. Minority voices are marginalized. Any break with liberal/DKos orthodoxy is not tolerated. The same posters get recc'd again and again on the basis of formulaic, campaign diaries.

Markos should be rethinking the site that he created, but he'll probably just run with it.

[falling apart like the ashes of American flags]

Also the mods are slowly purging the Clinton people on DU. It's happening slowly enough so it won't be noticed that it's a deliberate purge of one candidate's supporters, but it's happening. I hope they wipe out all the Clintonites by the summer at least.

[Flying Dog]

Sorry, but when DailyKos becomes basically the arm of one person's political campaign, it is no longer a true town hall of discussion. It is the left-wing version of Free Republic; in fact, a diary to that effect was recommended a while back. But like the consumptive eater who cannot keep a diet, acknowledging the fact does not change it. The DKos has become the worst of democracy: an echo-chamber and lynch mob that no longer respects dissent. Troll rating abuse on the site has become rampant and unchecked. Minority voices are marginalized. Any break with liberal/DKos orthodoxy is not tolerated. The same posters get recc'd again and again on the basis of formulaic, campaign diaries.

Markos should be rethinking the site that he created, but he'll probably just run with it.

OMG, OMG!!!! The Horror!!

[Beet]

Sorry, but when DailyKos becomes basically the arm of one person's political campaign, it is no longer a true town hall of discussion. It is the left-wing version of Free Republic; in fact, a diary to that effect was recommended a while back. But like the consumptive eater who cannot keep a diet, acknowledging the fact does not change it. The DKos has become the worst of democracy: an echo-chamber and lynch mob that no longer respects dissent. Troll rating abuse on the site has become rampant and unchecked. Minority voices are marginalized. Any break with liberal/DKos orthodoxy is not tolerated. The same posters get recc'd again and again on the basis of formulaic, campaign diaries.

Markos should be rethinking the site that he created, but he'll probably just run with it.

OMG, OMG!!!! The Horror!!

Yes, it is a joke when the left-wing basically becomes a parody of what the right-wing was in 2001-2003. The only difference is that they don't have a President... yet.

[Eleden]

Sorry, but when DailyKos becomes basically the arm of one person's political campaign, it is no longer a true town hall of discussion. It is the left-wing version of Free Republic; in fact, a diary to that effect was recommended a while back. But like the consumptive eater who cannot keep a diet, acknowledging the fact does not change it. The DKos has become the worst of democracy: an echo-chamber and lynch mob that no longer respects dissent. Troll rating abuse on the site has become rampant and unchecked. Minority voices are marginalized. Any break with liberal/DKos orthodoxy is not tolerated. The same posters get recc'd again and again on the basis of formulaic, campaign diaries.

Markos should be rethinking the site that he created, but he'll probably just run with it.

Very true.  Dailykos consistently attacked Obama and Clinton when Edwards was still in contention (before Iowa).  Many a times I attempted to post diaries about Obama's greatness but I eventually gave up after they were flooded with Edwards propaganda and Obama insults.  Until this primary is over I'm basically done blogging on either mydd or dailykos, because any attempt to support an opposing candidate will be met with an army of morons who stifle any attempt to express a dissenting opinion. 

[Verily]

Sorry, but when DailyKos becomes basically the arm of one person's political campaign, it is no longer a true town hall of discussion. It is the left-wing version of Free Republic; in fact, a diary to that effect was recommended a while back. But like the consumptive eater who cannot keep a diet, acknowledging the fact does not change it. The DKos has become the worst of democracy: an echo-chamber and lynch mob that no longer respects dissent. Troll rating abuse on the site has become rampant and unchecked. Minority voices are marginalized. Any break with liberal/DKos orthodoxy is not tolerated. The same posters get recc'd again and again on the basis of formulaic, campaign diaries.

Markos should be rethinking the site that he created, but he'll probably just run with it.

Very true.  Dailykos consistently attacked Obama and Clinton when Edwards was still in contention (before Iowa).  Many a times I attempted to post diaries about Obama's greatness but I eventually gave up after they were flooded with Edwards propaganda and Obama insults.  Until this primary is over I'm basically done blogging on either mydd or dailykos, because any attempt to support an opposing candidate will be met with an army of morons who stifle any attempt to express a dissenting opinion. 

I seem to recall DailyKos often supporting candidates in primaries. (Lieberman supporters beware!) Don't see why this is any different.

[JohnnyLongtorso]

Sorry, but when DailyKos becomes basically the arm of one person's political campaign, it is no longer a true town hall of discussion. It is the left-wing version of Free Republic; in fact, a diary to that effect was recommended a while back. But like the consumptive eater who cannot keep a diet, acknowledging the fact does not change it. The DKos has become the worst of democracy: an echo-chamber and lynch mob that no longer respects dissent. Troll rating abuse on the site has become rampant and unchecked. Minority voices are marginalized. Any break with liberal/DKos orthodoxy is not tolerated. The same posters get recc'd again and again on the basis of formulaic, campaign diaries.

Markos should be rethinking the site that he created, but he'll probably just run with it.

The same thing has been happening to Raising Kaine, which used to be a good blog for Virginia Democrats. Now it's just an Obama cheerleading site. Except it's encouraged by the site's owner.

[perdedor]

Also the mods are slowly purging the Clinton people on DU. It's happening slowly enough so it won't be noticed that it's a deliberate purge of one candidate's supporters, but it's happening. I hope they wipe out all the Clintonites by the summer at least.

That's very democratic of you.

This is why I never got to into the ideologically based websites.

[Beet]

Sorry, but when DailyKos becomes basically the arm of one person's political campaign, it is no longer a true town hall of discussion. It is the left-wing version of Free Republic; in fact, a diary to that effect was recommended a while back. But like the consumptive eater who cannot keep a diet, acknowledging the fact does not change it. The DKos has become the worst of democracy: an echo-chamber and lynch mob that no longer respects dissent. Troll rating abuse on the site has become rampant and unchecked. Minority voices are marginalized. Any break with liberal/DKos orthodoxy is not tolerated. The same posters get recc'd again and again on the basis of formulaic, campaign diaries.

Markos should be rethinking the site that he created, but he'll probably just run with it.

Very true.  Dailykos consistently attacked Obama and Clinton when Edwards was still in contention (before Iowa).  Many a times I attempted to post diaries about Obama's greatness but I eventually gave up after they were flooded with Edwards propaganda and Obama insults.  Until this primary is over I'm basically done blogging on either mydd or dailykos, because any attempt to support an opposing candidate will be met with an army of morons who stifle any attempt to express a dissenting opinion. 

Yeah the Edwards people were dominating there last year. I can't believe how uncritically I looked at that site for a while. All I can say is, I appreciate their passion and energy, but I hope that they remain marginalized in the Democratic party as a whole, because there is far too much rigidity and intolerance there.

[falling apart like the ashes of American flags]

Also the mods are slowly purging the Clinton people on DU. It's happening slowly enough so it won't be noticed that it's a deliberate purge of one candidate's supporters, but it's happening. I hope they wipe out all the Clintonites by the summer at least.

That's very democratic of you.

This is why I never got to into the ideologically based websites.

Dude, have you ever been to DU? It's basically the internet equivalent of Stalinist Russia. Not only do they frequently "disappear" people there but once they do it's forbidden to talk about them and you have to basically pretend they never existed. There's a strictly enforced blanket ban on supporting non-Democrats (express support for any candidate who is not a Democrat, and you are banned, the end.) They also do it for things like running blogs or other websites that are critical of DU. This is nothing new.

[Beet]

Also the mods are slowly purging the Clinton people on DU. It's happening slowly enough so it won't be noticed that it's a deliberate purge of one candidate's supporters, but it's happening. I hope they wipe out all the Clintonites by the summer at least.

That's very democratic of you.

This is why I never got to into the ideologically based websites.

Dude, have you ever been to DU? It's basically the internet equivalent of Stalinist Russia. Not only do they frequently "disappear" people there but once they do it's forbidden to talk about them and you have to basically pretend they never existed. There's a strictly enforced blanket ban on supporting non-Democrats (express support for any candidate who is not a Democrat, and you are banned, the end.) They also do it for things like running blogs or other websites that are critical of DU. This is nothing new.

And you approve of this, how?

[Eleden]

Sorry, but when DailyKos becomes basically the arm of one person's political campaign, it is no longer a true town hall of discussion. It is the left-wing version of Free Republic; in fact, a diary to that effect was recommended a while back. But like the consumptive eater who cannot keep a diet, acknowledging the fact does not change it. The DKos has become the worst of democracy: an echo-chamber and lynch mob that no longer respects dissent. Troll rating abuse on the site has become rampant and unchecked. Minority voices are marginalized. Any break with liberal/DKos orthodoxy is not tolerated. The same posters get recc'd again and again on the basis of formulaic, campaign diaries.

Markos should be rethinking the site that he created, but he'll probably just run with it.

Very true.  Dailykos consistently attacked Obama and Clinton when Edwards was still in contention (before Iowa).  Many a times I attempted to post diaries about Obama's greatness but I eventually gave up after they were flooded with Edwards propaganda and Obama insults.  Until this primary is over I'm basically done blogging on either mydd or dailykos, because any attempt to support an opposing candidate will be met with an army of morons who stifle any attempt to express a dissenting opinion. 

Yeah the Edwards people were dominating there last year. I can't believe how uncritically I looked at that site for a while. All I can say is, I appreciate their passion and energy, but I hope that they remain marginalized in the Democratic party as a whole, because there is far too much rigidity and intolerance there.

Unfortunately mydd is getting worse than dailykos ever was.  It pisses me off how I can't say one thing that's pro-Obama without getting 4000 insults thrown my way.

Here are some priceless gems:

"Obama's in bed with Rezko... but Hillary's Kazakhstan dealings are just fine."

"Clinton has more crossover appeal than Obama ever will."

"Are you high?  Independents would never go for Obama over McCain... but Hillary definitely would"

"Obama's a douchebag...plus Hillary's hotter" 

These people need to put down the Hillary kool-aid and open up the site for more political discussion. 

[falling apart like the ashes of American flags]

I'm just stating the facts. I like the non-Democrat support ban. It cleaned out the Naderite trash in 2004, cleaned out the Lieberman supporters in 2006, and cleaned out the Cindy Sheehanites last year.

[Beet]

Sorry, but when DailyKos becomes basically the arm of one person's political campaign, it is no longer a true town hall of discussion. It is the left-wing version of Free Republic; in fact, a diary to that effect was recommended a while back. But like the consumptive eater who cannot keep a diet, acknowledging the fact does not change it. The DKos has become the worst of democracy: an echo-chamber and lynch mob that no longer respects dissent. Troll rating abuse on the site has become rampant and unchecked. Minority voices are marginalized. Any break with liberal/DKos orthodoxy is not tolerated. The same posters get recc'd again and again on the basis of formulaic, campaign diaries.

Markos should be rethinking the site that he created, but he'll probably just run with it.

Very true.  Dailykos consistently attacked Obama and Clinton when Edwards was still in contention (before Iowa).  Many a times I attempted to post diaries about Obama's greatness but I eventually gave up after they were flooded with Edwards propaganda and Obama insults.  Until this primary is over I'm basically done blogging on either mydd or dailykos, because any attempt to support an opposing candidate will be met with an army of morons who stifle any attempt to express a dissenting opinion. 

Yeah the Edwards people were dominating there last year. I can't believe how uncritically I looked at that site for a while. All I can say is, I appreciate their passion and energy, but I hope that they remain marginalized in the Democratic party as a whole, because there is far too much rigidity and intolerance there.

Unfortunately mydd is getting worse than dailykos ever was.  It pisses me off how I can't say one thing that's pro-Obama without getting 4000 insults thrown my way.

Here are some priceless gems:

"Obama's in bed with Rezko... but Hillary's Kazakhstan dealings are just fine."

"Clinton has more crossover appeal than Obama ever will."

"Are you high?  Independents would never go for Obama over McCain... but Hillary definitely would"

"Obama's a douchebag...plus Hillary's hotter" 

These people need to put down the Hillary kool-aid and open up the site for more political discussion. 

How many hits per day does mydd have compared to dailykos?
DailyKos has about 15 times the Internet share as mydd.

mydd: where people go when they are marginalized
DailyKos: the main echo chamber.

[Eleden]

Sorry, but when DailyKos becomes basically the arm of one person's political campaign, it is no longer a true town hall of discussion. It is the left-wing version of Free Republic; in fact, a diary to that effect was recommended a while back. But like the consumptive eater who cannot keep a diet, acknowledging the fact does not change it. The DKos has become the worst of democracy: an echo-chamber and lynch mob that no longer respects dissent. Troll rating abuse on the site has become rampant and unchecked. Minority voices are marginalized. Any break with liberal/DKos orthodoxy is not tolerated. The same posters get recc'd again and again on the basis of formulaic, campaign diaries.

Markos should be rethinking the site that he created, but he'll probably just run with it.

Very true.  Dailykos consistently attacked Obama and Clinton when Edwards was still in contention (before Iowa).  Many a times I attempted to post diaries about Obama's greatness but I eventually gave up after they were flooded with Edwards propaganda and Obama insults.  Until this primary is over I'm basically done blogging on either mydd or dailykos, because any attempt to support an opposing candidate will be met with an army of morons who stifle any attempt to express a dissenting opinion. 

Yeah the Edwards people were dominating there last year. I can't believe how uncritically I looked at that site for a while. All I can say is, I appreciate their passion and energy, but I hope that they remain marginalized in the Democratic party as a whole, because there is far too much rigidity and intolerance there.

Unfortunately mydd is getting worse than dailykos ever was.  It pisses me off how I can't say one thing that's pro-Obama without getting 4000 insults thrown my way.

Here are some priceless gems:

"Obama's in bed with Rezko... but Hillary's Kazakhstan dealings are just fine."

"Clinton has more crossover appeal than Obama ever will."

"Are you high?  Independents would never go for Obama over McCain... but Hillary definitely would"

"Obama's a douchebag...plus Hillary's hotter" 

These people need to put down the Hillary kool-aid and open up the site for more political discussion. 

How many hits per day does mydd have compared to dailykos?
DailyKos has about 15 times the Internet share as mydd.

mydd: where people go when they are marginalized
DailyKos: the main echo chamber.

Oh I completely agree.   I'm just saying that it's a shame mydd has become a site for Clinton propaganda and all political discussion has been eliminated.