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8 out of 11 is not deserved
pollwatch99-b
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« on: February 10, 2008, 11:05:21 AM »
« edited: February 10, 2008, 11:13:53 AM by pollwatch99-b »

Reported on NBC Meet the Press today.

I know that totaling votes between causes and primaries isn't apples-apples but it gives Obama 3 talking points

Most elected delegates
Most states
Most votes

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« Reply #1 on: February 10, 2008, 11:15:18 AM »

What if Clinton ends up with the most votes, but Obama with the most delegates?  Will Obama still honor his promise to ask superdelegates to vote for the person with the most votes?
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« Reply #2 on: February 10, 2008, 11:20:43 AM »

The problem is that we don't even know what the "popular vote" tally was in some of these caucus states.  In Iowa for example, IIRC, they don't even tally a popular vote count, just a state delegate count, correct?
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« Reply #3 on: February 10, 2008, 11:25:45 AM »

The problem is that we don't even know what the "popular vote" tally was in some of these caucus states.  In Iowa for example, IIRC, they don't even tally a popular vote count, just a state delegate count, correct?


I believe you are correct but then the claim cannot be disputed either.  If Obama leads in  all these categories and has the strongest polls against McCain, how can the superdelegates tip the election to Clinton without a really ugly convention.  If Clinton can  mess up some of these categories and get a lead then at least their is some rationale for being selected the nominee.  Without that, I cannot see how she gets the nomination
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« Reply #4 on: February 10, 2008, 11:27:40 AM »

The problem is that we don't even know what the "popular vote" tally was in some of these caucus states.  In Iowa for example, IIRC, they don't even tally a popular vote count, just a state delegate count, correct?


Yes, but let's say Clinton wins the overall popular vote from the primaries by a fairly large margin (let's say 7-10 points), meaning even with caucuses it would be nearly impossible for Obama to claim he won the national popular vote.  However, let's say Obama wins the pledged delegates.  Does Obama ask the super delegates to vote for the candidate with the most popular votes?
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« Reply #5 on: February 10, 2008, 11:32:10 AM »

The problem is that we don't even know what the "popular vote" tally was in some of these caucus states.  In Iowa for example, IIRC, they don't even tally a popular vote count, just a state delegate count, correct?


Yes, but let's say Clinton wins the overall popular vote from the primaries by a fairly large margin (let's say 7-10 points), meaning even with caucuses it would be nearly impossible for Obama to claim he won the national popular vote.  However, let's say Obama wins the pledged delegates.  Does Obama ask the super delegates to vote for the candidate with the most popular votes?

By state that would be the fair thing to do. 
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