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Question: Who had a Better night on Feb. 5th Obama or Clinton?
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« on: February 06, 2008, 02:14:45 AM »

Obama needed a draw, and he got it.
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« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2008, 02:21:13 AM »

Washington Post's headline will read that the Democratic race is a tie, McCain assumes mantle of frontrunner.
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« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2008, 02:39:35 PM »

January fund raising:
Obama: $32 million
Clinton: $13 million

Yeah...
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« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2008, 03:54:46 PM »

To all those who said it was better for Clinton: Intrade disagrees.

That doesn't mean anything at all, actually.

Did Clinton win what she was expected to win? Did Obama win what he was expected to win?

Simple as that.

You're right.  Clinton won everything she was expected to win except Missouri.  However, she also picked up California and New Jersey, both states she was not expected to perform too well in.  Even more unexpected for Hillary was the large lead she enjoyed in California.

Obama, on the other hand, won almost everything he was expected to win, plus Missouri.  He did, however, lose two states that should have gone his way--two states that were polling his way, and were expected to go his way:  California and New Jersey.  Those are two very big losses for him, while Hillary really didn't have any huge upsets (she didn't lose Missouri by more than a percentage point, and in fact carried the state the whole night up until the last few precincts came in.  (I might count Massachusetts as well, given his endorsements from the state's two senators and governor, but I'm not sure how polling was up to yesterday's vote.)

Hillary leads in the delegate race.  She leads in the popular vote, when combining the vote totals from each state so far.  That's what you call a winner.
Obama was supposed to win in NJ? What? He never lead in New Jersey, New Jersey is in New York's backyard, the north of the state is effectively NYC's suburb/exurb.

Obama took CT, DE, MO and NM is still too close to call. She took the states she was supposed to take, he took the states he was supposed to take, and then he took a couple extra.
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« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2008, 04:01:54 PM »

Obama took CT, DE, MO and NM is still too close to call. She took the states she was supposed to take, he took the states he was supposed to take, and then he took a couple extra.

Define "a couple extra."

And Clinton was supposed to take California?  Hmm...I guess I was dreaming when all the media and polls showed Obama ahead in the state.
Some polls showed Obama ahead in California. Some showed Clinton ahead. Some showed it tied. None of the media said that Obama was ahead: they called it at best a toss-up, pointing out that Clinton had a huge lead a week ago.
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« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2008, 06:48:49 PM »

Hillary loaned herself 5 million dollars. She has maxed out her donors.

Oh man, she had better hope the media doesn't make too big of a deal out of it - having to finance your own campaign when you're supposed to be the front runner is a sure sign than your campaign is in trouble, and people are going to pick up on that.
I'm watching Tucker for some reason, and that's all he's talking about. He also just said that some of Clinton's staff are forgoing their pay, which reminded everyone on the panel of another New Yorker who recently dropped out.
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« Reply #6 on: February 06, 2008, 07:14:25 PM »

Here's the story.

http://thepage.time.com/2008/02/06/page-exclusive-some-clinton-senior-staff-working-without-pay/
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