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Question: Who had a Better night on Feb. 5th Obama or Clinton?
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Thomas Jackson
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E: 8.77, S: 8.79

« on: February 06, 2008, 07:35:47 AM »
« edited: September 12, 2008, 12:43:13 AM by WilliamWallace »

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Thomas Jackson
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E: 8.77, S: 8.79

« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2008, 10:42:30 AM »
« Edited: September 12, 2008, 12:43:25 AM by WilliamWallace »

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Thomas Jackson
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E: 8.77, S: 8.79

« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2008, 10:49:11 AM »
« Edited: September 12, 2008, 12:43:36 AM by WilliamWallace »

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Thomas Jackson
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E: 8.77, S: 8.79

« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2008, 11:05:51 AM »
« Edited: September 12, 2008, 12:44:51 AM by WilliamWallace »

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Thomas Jackson
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E: 8.77, S: 8.79

« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2008, 11:56:38 AM »
« Edited: September 12, 2008, 12:45:08 AM by WilliamWallace »

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Thomas Jackson
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E: 8.77, S: 8.79

« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2008, 12:03:54 PM »
« Edited: September 12, 2008, 12:45:19 AM by WilliamWallace »

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Thomas Jackson
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E: 8.77, S: 8.79

« Reply #6 on: February 06, 2008, 04:40:56 PM »


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When did you start?

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Wrong again. http://news.yahoo.com/s/thenation/20080206/cm_thenation/15281018

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Hillary! Had huge leads in both MA and CA. Even the last SUSA poll had Hillary! +13 in CA. She was supposed to win Both. She did what she was supposed to do. That's not a "victory".

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Hillary! had consistant leads in these States. Consistant. Like it or not, you can't change those facts.

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Hillary! had big leads in All of these States. Some of them were 20+ just two weeks ago.

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Nonsense. Hillary! supporters have tried to play the gender card over and over again. Her supporters support her because of what is between her legs. They brand anyone who dares speak out against the machine as "anti-woman".

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The fact is, many Hillary! supporters have attacked Obama's race. They keep trying to paint him as the "Black Candidate" when he is anything but.

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Under no circumstances would I EVER vote for Hillary! She could be running against Kermit the Frog, and Kermit would get my vote. Beyond that, Obama is inspiring, positive and hopeful. Hillary! is cruel, cunning, and manipulative.
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Thomas Jackson
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Political Matrix
E: 8.77, S: 8.79

« Reply #7 on: February 06, 2008, 04:44:27 PM »
« Edited: September 12, 2008, 12:45:33 AM by WilliamWallace »

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Thomas Jackson
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E: 8.77, S: 8.79

« Reply #8 on: February 06, 2008, 04:57:27 PM »
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Thomas Jackson
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E: 8.77, S: 8.79

« Reply #9 on: February 06, 2008, 09:13:24 PM »
« Edited: September 12, 2008, 12:46:18 AM by WilliamWallace »

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Thomas Jackson
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E: 8.77, S: 8.79

« Reply #10 on: February 07, 2008, 09:38:13 AM »
« Edited: September 12, 2008, 12:46:57 AM by WilliamWallace »

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Thomas Jackson
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E: 8.77, S: 8.79

« Reply #11 on: February 07, 2008, 12:05:50 PM »

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I do know how many delegates were at stake. 1681. Do a simple search and you would find that information. So if 1681 were at stake, how does your math add up?

You are claiming that MSNBC is saying Hillary! won with 786 to Obama 775. Do some simple math and you find that number equals 1561, Not 1681. You are over 100 delegates short in your count.

I'll repeate the relevant portion that is NOT coming from the Obama Campaign, but rather NBC news.

With the delegate count still under way, NBC News said Obama appears to have won around 840 delegates in yesterday’s contests, while Clinton earned about 830 — “give or take a few,” Tim Russert, the network’s Washington bureau chief, said on the “Today” show.

Obama won more delegates.

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Obama was shooting for a -100 delegate Count. Did he exceed that?

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The core Hillary! contigent could care less about alienating half the electorate. They blindly think that they can get all the women to vote for Hillary! to negate that effect. They don't realize how their negative anti-male attacks turn off not only Men, but also Conservative/Moderate Women.

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As you have already demonstrated not knowing the Delegate Count, Not knowing Obama's goals for the Night, it should be no suprise that you don't know Hillary!'s plan. Frankly however, I am suprised.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080203/ap_on_el_pr/campaign_rdp_30

"Democrat Hillary Rodham Clinton said Sunday she might be willing to garnish the wages of workers who refuse to buy health insurance to achieve coverage for all Americans."

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Ad Hominem.

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Your additional Ad Hominem aside, An Office Executive would be the equivalent to the President. As both involve exercising management and leadership. Serving in the Senate does not come close by any stretch of the imagination. I find it telling that you don't understand your own argument.

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Hillary! was a key advisor in her own mind. She rode the coattails of her Husband and tries to paint that as something more than it was.

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Strong Leadership, Willingness to bring Change to the Government, I like Obama's health care plan much better than Hillary!'s.

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Hillary!'s exact words on this issue betray her:

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including Al Qaeda members...It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons. Should he succeed in that endeavor, he could alter the political and security landscape of the Middle East, which as we know all too well, effects American security. This is a very difficult vote, this is probably the hardest decision I've ever had to make. Any vote that might lead to war should be hard, but I cast it with conviction."

Neither she, nor you, can have it both ways.

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Ah abortion! That must be your key issue. Perhaps that's why you support Hillary! so much?

Can I ask you, are you female?

Regardless, are you aware that McCain has been attacked from the Right specficially because he said Alito was too Conservative?

For what it’s worth, I’ve been told the same thing John F. reported — that at a private meeting McCain said he would appoint justices like Roberts, but not like Alito — who wears his conservatism on his sleeve. The report of the comment — first in D.C. conservative circles and now in the WSJ — has set off alarm bells with conservatives who’ve worked on the judicial issues, for obvious reasons. We already got Alito despite a president who wanted to go in another direction. This time, folks feel like they’re being warned beforehand.
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Thomas Jackson
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Political Matrix
E: 8.77, S: 8.79

« Reply #12 on: February 07, 2008, 12:08:35 PM »
« Edited: September 12, 2008, 12:47:40 AM by WilliamWallace »

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Thomas Jackson
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E: 8.77, S: 8.79

« Reply #13 on: February 07, 2008, 02:25:21 PM »
« Edited: September 12, 2008, 12:47:58 AM by WilliamWallace »

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Thomas Jackson
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E: 8.77, S: 8.79

« Reply #14 on: February 07, 2008, 06:04:02 PM »

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My reading comprehension is just fine. You tried to claim over and over that Hillary! won more delegates. When I showed you sourced material that proves she didn't you try to deny it.

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You asked for ONE. I gave you ONE. Now that's not enough?

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A bold faced lie. Please retract that statement now. I said that Hillary! Supporters are making such comments. The words "Senior Campaign Members" never left my mouth.

I see you've retreated to the tired Hillary! tactic of lying. I think it's time to use the ignore feature.

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That doesn't negate the attacks made by Hillary! supporters that you denied existed.

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Her position is Garnishing wages. That was her own words. That's what the media is reporting. Or are you now going to claim that the Media is owned by Obama?

Do you see UFO's as well?

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Read the Obama Plan. http://www.barackobama.com/issues/healthcare/

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Governor's don't make decisions and defend issues? What?

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Another non-response.

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Again, read the plan. http://www.barackobama.com/issues/healthcare/

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I asked a question. You the one who responded in an anti-semitic way. And you still won't retract.

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No, that distinction falls on you.

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Debate? That's laughable.

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You really like distortions don't you. You also apparently can't read. I pointed out that neither Obama nor McCain would appoint "Super Conservative Judges". You also apparently have a profound ignorance on what the Supreme Court can actually do. You were also the person who first brought up an "Abortion Litmus Test." When I responded, you now want to try to flip the script. Sorry, it ain't happening.

This "Conversation" is actually a very good representation of everything that is wrong with the current system, and by proxy, Hillary!. You've demonstrated quite well what depths Hillary! supporters stoop to when confronted with reality. It's time for me to rise above it.

You know my positions, I know yours. We are finished.

I am saddened that you retreated to twisting the truth and resorting to some rather bold faced lies. Since you have decided to do so We are done here. Welcome to my ignore switch. Buh-Bye. Smiley
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