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« Reply #1075 on: February 06, 2008, 01:06:38 AM »
Tho...there remains New Mexico...wtf pls?
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« Reply #1076 on: February 06, 2008, 01:06:53 AM »
Ugh, that California map is not looking good...
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« Reply #1077 on: February 06, 2008, 01:07:46 AM »
Louisiana, Nebraska, Washington St, Virginia, Maryland, DC, Hawaii, Wisconsin... Seriously, even if its a tie, where does Hillary win in the rest of February??
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« Reply #1078 on: February 06, 2008, 01:08:40 AM »
I think Alcon's point is that the same-day voting numbers are better for Obama than the absentees.  How much better is, of course, anyone's guess.
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« Reply #1079 on: February 06, 2008, 01:08:57 AM »
Quote from: Wiz in Wis on February 06, 2008, 01:07:46 AM
Louisiana, Nebraska, Washington St, Virginia, Maryland, DC, Hawaii, Wisconsin... Seriously, even if its a tie, where does Hillary win in the rest of February??

TX and OH are kinda big states for her....though its a long ways away.
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« Reply #1080 on: February 06, 2008, 01:10:32 AM »
I now support the immediate deportation of Latinos, including even those in America legally. Tongue
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« Reply #1081 on: February 06, 2008, 01:10:58 AM »
Obama could hammer Hillary in Ohio over NAFTA...
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« Reply #1082 on: February 06, 2008, 01:11:18 AM »
How does Hillary survive a month in which she may win only one more primary? She'll almost surely be down in delegates going into old Super Tuesday. I hope the folks on this forum who think Hillary is a lock will consider this point.
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« Reply #1083 on: February 06, 2008, 01:11:40 AM »
Quote from: Gabu on February 06, 2008, 01:10:32 AM
I now support the immediate deportation of Latinos, including even those in America legally. Tongue

Obama needs to actually VISIT Ohio and Texas...unlike in California when he sent Oprah, Michelle, Ted, and John Kerry in for him all the time.
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« Reply #1084 on: February 06, 2008, 01:12:07 AM »
He's not a silly protectionist (unlike Hillary Clinton 2.0), so he won't engage in that kind of class warfare.
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« Reply #1085 on: February 06, 2008, 01:12:59 AM »
Quote from: Modern Mugwump on February 06, 2008, 01:11:18 AM
How does Hillary survive a month in which she may win only one more primary? She'll almost surely be down in delegates going into old Super Tuesday. I hope the folks on this forum who think Hillary is a lock will consider this point.

By engaging in debates - see today's actions.
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« Reply #1086 on: February 06, 2008, 01:13:05 AM »
btw alameda county has not reported yet and i expect that to be an obama county.. lots of blacks mixed with high income whites
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« Reply #1087 on: February 06, 2008, 01:14:19 AM »
Looks like the exit polls were wrong in New Mexico, too. Although it is still early.
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« Reply #1088 on: February 06, 2008, 01:14:44 AM »
Quote from: Sam Spade on February 06, 2008, 01:12:59 AM
Quote from: Modern Mugwump on February 06, 2008, 01:11:18 AM
How does Hillary survive a month in which she may win only one more primary? She'll almost surely be down in delegates going into old Super Tuesday. I hope the folks on this forum who think Hillary is a lock will consider this point.

By engaging in debates - see today's actions.
Good point. Penn wants weekly debates. Obama did perform well in the last debate, so that might not be a great strategy.That shows that Clinton is running as the underdog..
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« Reply #1089 on: February 06, 2008, 01:16:17 AM »
Quote from: Modern Mugwump on February 06, 2008, 01:14:44 AM
Quote from: Sam Spade on February 06, 2008, 01:12:59 AM
Quote from: Modern Mugwump on February 06, 2008, 01:11:18 AM
How does Hillary survive a month in which she may win only one more primary? She'll almost surely be down in delegates going into old Super Tuesday. I hope the folks on this forum who think Hillary is a lock will consider this point.

By engaging in debates - see today's actions.
Good point. Penn wants weekly debates. Obama did perform well in the last debate, so that might not be a great strategy.That shows that Clinton is running as the underdog..

I'm not really convinced anyone won that debate, frankly.
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« Reply #1090 on: February 06, 2008, 01:17:45 AM »
Obama never wins debates
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« Reply #1091 on: February 06, 2008, 01:20:30 AM »
MSNBCs political panel...whatever they are....is calling it a tie.
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« Reply #1092 on: February 06, 2008, 01:21:00 AM »
Verily, my point was that Obama is improving significantly between absentee results and final results in most counties.

San Luis Obispo County just did the same thing, and flipped to Obama.
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« Reply #1093 on: February 06, 2008, 01:21:18 AM »
Quote from: MATCHU[D] on February 06, 2008, 01:20:30 AM
MSNBCs political panel...whatever they are....is calling it a tie.

MSNBC are also the ones predicting the 841O-837C delegate split.
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« Reply #1094 on: February 06, 2008, 01:22:15 AM »
Quote from: Alcon on February 06, 2008, 01:21:00 AM
Verily, my point was that Obama is improving significantly between absentee results and final results in most counties.

San Luis Obispo County just did the same thing, and flipped to Obama.

I saw. Maybe things aren't quite as bad as early results make them appear. If California narrows to 13% (as Sam suggests), I could buy the 841-837 split.
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« Reply #1095 on: February 06, 2008, 01:23:18 AM »
Are the exit polls horrendously wrong in New Mexico again?
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« Reply #1096 on: February 06, 2008, 01:23:55 AM »
Quote from: Alcon on February 06, 2008, 01:21:00 AM
Verily, my point was that Obama is improving significantly between absentee results and final results in most counties.

San Luis Obispo County just did the same thing, and flipped to Obama.

Let's see what happens when the big boys (San Bernadino/San Diego/San Francisco/Los Angeles) start spewing forth before making too many predictions, IMHO.  Wink
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« Reply #1097 on: February 06, 2008, 01:24:35 AM »
Quote from: Obama 08 on February 06, 2008, 01:23:18 AM
Are the exit polls horrendously wrong in New Mexico again?

I said that earlier. Nothing's for certain with only 15% in (maybe only early voting? I don't know how much of that happens in NM), but I doubt Obama wins NM at this point.
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« Reply #1098 on: February 06, 2008, 01:25:55 AM »

So ... you do realize that NAFTA wasn't a Clinton invention don't you?
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« Reply #1099 on: February 06, 2008, 01:26:32 AM »
Quote from: Wakie on February 06, 2008, 01:25:55 AM

So ... you do realize that NAFTA wasn't a Clinton invention don't you?

The Clintons did support it and pass it. If she's going to cite "35 years of experience", she has to take credit for it all.

(I actually think NAFTA is just fine, but most people don't.)
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