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« Reply #25 on: January 27, 2008, 10:22:10 PM »

Which is interesting that you'd take such a strict standard with that, yet take many elements in the torah as allegory

Orthodox Jews take the entire Torah literally, although they may consider some details differently.  For example, I don't think they believe the world was created in 6 24 hour days.
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« Reply #26 on: February 06, 2008, 07:51:44 PM »

Judaism is usually viewed as a race by many Orthodox Jews, rather than a religion. It it not evangelical, and Judaism is not supposed to be a religion people join. Although conversion is permitted, it is not promoted. Reform Jews believe it is more of a religion, but still it is not evangelical, but rather the literal idea of a Jew is not as precise.

For example if child A has a Jewish mother and a Christian father, but is raised as a Christian, then an Orthodox Jew would tend to consider child A a Jew, even though child A believes in Christianity because a Jew cannot lose their identity. However a Reform Jew will tend to believe that child A is a Christian.

If child B has a Christian mother and a Jewish father, and is raised as a Jew, then that child is considered Jewish by Reform Jews, but not a Jew in the Orthodox community because child B is not born of maternal Jewish heritage.

(i'm child B, so I'm Reform...)
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« Reply #27 on: February 06, 2008, 08:43:02 PM »

Judaism is usually viewed as a race by many Orthodox Jews, rather than a religion. It it not evangelical, and Judaism is not supposed to be a religion people join. Although conversion is permitted, it is not promoted. Reform Jews believe it is more of a religion, but still it is not evangelical, but rather the literal idea of a Jew is not as precise.

For example if child A has a Jewish mother and a Christian father, but is raised as a Christian, then an Orthodox Jew would tend to consider child A a Jew, even though child A believes in Christianity because a Jew cannot lose their identity. However a Reform Jew will tend to believe that child A is a Christian.

If child B has a Christian mother and a Jewish father, and is raised as a Jew, then that child is considered Jewish by Reform Jews, but not a Jew in the Orthodox community because child B is not born of maternal Jewish heritage.

(i'm child B, so I'm Reform...)

I'm a Reform Jew, though both of my parents are Jews, and my mother was raised as a Conservative Jew.
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« Reply #28 on: February 06, 2008, 10:15:10 PM »

I have had a lot of contact with jews and jewish culture, I've always enjoyed it.

My grandmother is a bloodline jewess, but she was raised a lutheran and converted to Catholism.

I like the intellectual side of it, which is sorely lacking in Christianity. But I love ham/bacon/prescuito and seafood... and especially dislike the idea of a scalpel. So no deal.
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« Reply #29 on: February 06, 2008, 10:35:24 PM »

I have had a lot of contact with jews and jewish culture, I've always enjoyed it.

My grandmother is a bloodline jewess, but she was raised a lutheran and converted to Catholism.

I like the intellectual side of it, which is sorely lacking in Christianity. But I love ham/bacon/prescuito and seafood... and especially dislike the idea of a scalpel. So no deal.

Just FYI, the word Jewess is no longer in general usage.
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« Reply #30 on: February 06, 2008, 10:38:53 PM »

I have had a lot of contact with jews and jewish culture, I've always enjoyed it.

My grandmother is a bloodline jewess, but she was raised a lutheran and converted to Catholism.

I like the intellectual side of it, which is sorely lacking in Christianity. But I love ham/bacon/prescuito and seafood... and especially dislike the idea of a scalpel. So no deal.

Just FYI, the word Jewess is no longer in general usage.

I know, but it still gets used around the family.
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« Reply #31 on: February 07, 2008, 10:12:58 PM »

I have had a lot of contact with jews and jewish culture, I've always enjoyed it.

My grandmother is a bloodline jewess, but she was raised a lutheran and converted to Catholism.

I like the intellectual side of it, which is sorely lacking in Christianity. But I love ham/bacon/prescuito and seafood... and especially dislike the idea of a scalpel. So no deal.

Just FYI, the word Jewess is no longer in general usage.

I know, but it still gets used around the family.

Interesting. I felt like I was reading Mein Kampf.
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« Reply #32 on: February 07, 2008, 10:58:37 PM »

Yes, I have a question. What precisely is Conservative Judaism?
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« Reply #33 on: February 07, 2008, 11:19:24 PM »

I have had a lot of contact with jews and jewish culture, I've always enjoyed it.

My grandmother is a bloodline jewess, but she was raised a lutheran and converted to Catholism.

I like the intellectual side of it, which is sorely lacking in Christianity. But I love ham/bacon/prescuito and seafood... and especially dislike the idea of a scalpel. So no deal.

Just FYI, the word Jewess is no longer in general usage.

I know, but it still gets used around the family.

Interesting. I felt like I was reading Mein Kampf.

I really think that you have to be looking to be offended to have assumed that.

Maybe if it was some stranger, but I think PolNut's mistake was honest.
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« Reply #34 on: February 07, 2008, 11:22:28 PM »

I have had a lot of contact with jews and jewish culture, I've always enjoyed it.

My grandmother is a bloodline jewess, but she was raised a lutheran and converted to Catholism.

I like the intellectual side of it, which is sorely lacking in Christianity. But I love ham/bacon/prescuito and seafood... and especially dislike the idea of a scalpel. So no deal.

Just FYI, the word Jewess is no longer in general usage.

I know, but it still gets used around the family.

Interesting. I felt like I was reading Mein Kampf.

I really think that you have to be looking to be offended to have assumed that.

Maybe if it was some stranger, but I think PolNut's mistake was honest.

Unfortunately, nobody notices when I exaggerate for humorous effect. Cry
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« Reply #35 on: February 07, 2008, 11:22:55 PM »

Oh, sorry Tongue

Long day.
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« Reply #36 on: February 07, 2008, 11:44:41 PM »


I know what you mean. Wink
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« Reply #37 on: February 08, 2008, 12:01:20 AM »

Yes, I have a question. What precisely is Conservative Judaism?

More stringent than Reform, less than Orthodox.
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« Reply #38 on: February 08, 2008, 12:27:26 AM »

Yes, I have a question. What precisely is Conservative Judaism?

More stringent than Reform, less than Orthodox.

This Judaism's just right! (I was raised Conservative)
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« Reply #39 on: February 08, 2008, 12:44:09 AM »

BTW - My grandmother... before she started to forget who she was, always referred to herself as a former jewess.

But when I'm with my jewish friends I don't tend to use that word.
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« Reply #40 on: August 11, 2008, 08:03:22 PM »

I feel like bumping this thread.
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« Reply #41 on: August 11, 2008, 08:14:44 PM »


Good.  My opinion of Judaism has cratered in six months.  I now strongly support banning gefilte fish.  Since I don't know what that looks like, I'm just going to go ahead and ban all fish.
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« Reply #42 on: August 11, 2008, 08:19:21 PM »


Good.  My opinion of Judaism has cratered in six months.  I now strongly support banning gefilte fish.  Since I don't know what that looks like, I'm just going to go ahead and ban all fish.

Why has your opninion cratered?  I agree about the fish, btw.
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« Reply #43 on: August 11, 2008, 08:40:43 PM »


I have a complex mathematical algorithm.  It takes my current opinion of Lorne Michaels, subtracts what I'll call the "Wolf Blitzer Index," and divides that by the number of times my dad has used conversational Yiddish incorrectly this month.
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« Reply #44 on: August 11, 2008, 08:43:27 PM »


I have a complex mathematical algorithm.  It takes my current opinion of Lorne Michaels, subtracts what I'll call the "Wolf Blitzer Index," and divides that by the number of times my dad has used conversational Yiddish incorrectly this month.

Interesting.
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« Reply #45 on: August 11, 2008, 08:44:32 PM »


I have a complex mathematical algorithm.  It takes my current opinion of Lorne Michaels, subtracts what I'll call the "Wolf Blitzer Index," and divides that by the number of times my dad has used conversational Yiddish incorrectly this month.

Interesting.

I'll admit that I still haven't figured out how to work in the Sammy Davis, Jr., effect.  For obvious reasons, that throws the whole thing out of whack.
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« Reply #46 on: August 11, 2008, 08:47:10 PM »


I have a complex mathematical algorithm.  It takes my current opinion of Lorne Michaels, subtracts what I'll call the "Wolf Blitzer Index," and divides that by the number of times my dad has used conversational Yiddish incorrectly this month.

Interesting.

I'll admit that I still haven't figured out how to work in the Sammy Davis, Jr., effect.  For obvious reasons, that throws the whole thing out of whack.

Indeed.  Don't forget Mel Brooks and Larry David.
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« Reply #47 on: August 12, 2008, 12:53:12 PM »

Positive overall. But I still personally think they missed the proverbial boat.
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« Reply #48 on: August 12, 2008, 01:07:01 PM »


Good.  My opinion of Judaism has cratered in six months.  I now strongly support banning gefilte fish.  Since I don't know what that looks like, I'm just going to go ahead and ban all fish.

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« Reply #49 on: August 12, 2008, 01:50:35 PM »


Good.  My opinion of Judaism has cratered in six months.  I now strongly support banning gefilte fish.  Since I don't know what that looks like, I'm just going to go ahead and ban all fish.



That's the most angular fish I've ever seen!  It's an abomination.
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