1944: fdr selects james byrnes as vp
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WalterMitty
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« on: January 18, 2008, 10:52:49 AM »

id like to get a story going here.

in 1944 fdr slects james byrnes as his running mate.

someone add something...
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« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2008, 03:20:13 PM »

FDR wins but Byrnes is a liability because of his views on race which do harm FDR's campaign in several northern states.



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« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2008, 03:57:23 PM »
« Edited: January 18, 2008, 04:10:29 PM by Supersoulty »

FDR dies in 1945, as per the real TL.  Byrnes ascends to the Oval Office.

As per the real TL, Byrnes drops the atomic bombs on Japan... however, his uber racist views lead him pick targets that larger than those the military originally intended for the bombs.  The first atomic bomb is used against the leading cultural and intellectual center of Japan, Kyoto.  250,000 are killed outright, with thousands of years of Japanese history and many leading Japanese intellectuals killed.  The second target is Osaka.  The bomb kills another 300,000 outright and significantly disables Japan's commercial sector.

Some on the world consider the selection of such large, culturally important targets to be barbaric, but the Japanese surrender makes many forget.

As a condition of the surrender, Byrnes "convinces" Emperor Hirohito to "willing" step-down, seeking to replace the traditional Japanese government with a more "civilized" form.  The military occupation is much harsher than in the OTL.
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« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2008, 05:10:48 PM »

Because of the United States harsh treatment of Japan many Japanese seek to "get rid of" the US troops massive rebel groups form and attack American troops.
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« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2008, 11:56:18 AM »

1948 election

President James Byrnes of South Carolina seeks a full term and wins the Democratic Presidential nomination.  Moderate Democratic Senator Scott Lucas of Illinois is picked as the Vice Presidential nominee.

Governor Thomas Dewey of New York wins the Republican nomination, and he picks Governor Earl Warren of California for Vice President.

No States Rights candidate runs as the Democratic nominee is from the south.

Dewey wins a resounding victory, confining the Democratic to the south.

Dewey/Warren                  375
Byrnes/Lucas                     156

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« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2008, 02:47:15 PM »

Roosevelt does not die in this scenario.
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« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2008, 02:06:12 PM »

No real difference, although FDR gets <90 in every Southern state, and maybe loses some in New England.  Also, the Civil Rights movement starts later, because Byrnes becomes President in 1945, and he was not a big Civil Rights guy.
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