Michigan GOP Results thread II

[Nutmeg]

So there!

I, for one, am convinced.

[Lincoln Republican]

Interesting stat from Michigan

Evangelicals

Romney            34%

Huckabee         29%

[bullmoose88]

Interesting stat from Michigan

Evangelicals

Romney            34%

Huckabee         29%

thats probably the one real definitive bright spot for Romney, in that he clearly exceeded the expectations game in his birth state...

This implies that Romney just doesn't gain at McCain's expense.

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

Sadly Romney had to rely on actual Republicans to win; the Democrats and Independents ride the short bus and voted for McCain.

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

Romney 237,255 39%
 McCain 182,608 30%
 Huckabee 98,699 16%
 Paul 38,937 6%
 Thompson 22,763 4%
 Giuliani 17,045 3%
 Uncommitted 12,035 2%
 Hunter 2,029 0%

65% reporting

[Lief 🗽]

The county map is interesting: there's a vertical line down the center of the state, with McCain counties on the western side of it and Romney counties on the eastern side.

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I was hoping that 9u11ani would wait until AFTER he got the nomination to crash and  burn.

[Josh/Devilman88]

The county map is interesting: there's a vertical line down the center of the state, with McCain counties on the western side of it and Romney counties on the eastern side.

Where did you find a county map at?

[Nutmeg]

The county map is interesting: there's a vertical line down the center of the state, with McCain counties on the western side of it and Romney counties on the eastern side.

Where did you find a county map at?

http://politics.nytimes.com/election-guide/2008/results/states/MI.html

[Joe Biden 2020]

Romney now has 12 of Michigan's 30 delegates and McCain has 9.  The other 9 are still out.

This puts Romney at 42, Huckabee at 21, McCain at 19.  Romney only needs 1,149 more delegates to win the nomination.

[Erc]

Romney now has 12 of Michigan's 30 delegates and McCain has 9.  The other 9 are still out.

This puts Romney at 42, Huckabee at 21, McCain at 19.  Romney only needs 1,149 more delegates to win the nomination.

Anybody have any clue how CNN (which I assume is your source) is assigning these delegates?

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

I figured McCain would've gotten Chippewa.

Romney 285,877 39%
 McCain 218,138 30%
 Huckabee 118,128 16%
 Paul 46,177 6%
 Thompson 27,200 4%
 Giuliani 20,906 3%
 Uncommitted 14,762 2%
 Hunter 2,403 0%

81% reporting

[Verily]

Romney now has 12 of Michigan's 30 delegates and McCain has 9.  The other 9 are still out.

This puts Romney at 42, Huckabee at 21, McCain at 19.  Romney only needs 1,149 more delegates to win the nomination.

Anybody have any clue how CNN (which I assume is your source) is assigning these delegates?

Presumably by CD, using only CDs that have all results in (or where the remaining results cannot change the overall result).

[Reaganfan]

This result stems from:

A. Romney's Native Son advantage
B. Lack of significant Independent and Democrat turnout
C. Poor weather conditions affecting turnout

[Torie]

The county map is interesting: there's a vertical line down the center of the state, with McCain counties on the western side of it and Romney counties on the eastern side.

Is there a link to the map?

[True Democrat]

The county map is interesting: there's a vertical line down the center of the state, with McCain counties on the western side of it and Romney counties on the eastern side.

Is there a link to the map?

http://politics.nytimes.com/election-guide/2008/results/states/MI.html

[Lief 🗽]

This result stems from:

A. Romney's Native Son advantage
B. Lack of significant Independent and Democrat turnout
C. Poor weather conditions affecting turnout

Er... his father was Governor in the sixties. And he was born there. That's hardly a huge advantage.

So... McCain lost a Republican primary, because too many Republicans were voting?

"Light snow" does not equal nearly 100,000 votes.

[12th Doctor]

This result stems from:

A. Romney's Native Son advantage
B. Lack of significant Independent and Democrat turnout
C. Poor weather conditions affecting turnout

Ah, yes.  That 70,000+ voter difference between them would shrivel up in an instant without those.  Nice justification of your loss, at least we Romney supporters can admit when we've lost.

How long before you change your position on that?

[Erc]

Romney now has 12 of Michigan's 30 delegates and McCain has 9.  The other 9 are still out.

This puts Romney at 42, Huckabee at 21, McCain at 19.  Romney only needs 1,149 more delegates to win the nomination.

Anybody have any clue how CNN (which I assume is your source) is assigning these delegates?

Presumably by CD, using only CDs that have all results in (or where the remaining results cannot change the overall result).

That would essentially have to be the case (as Huckabee has no delegates)...though I'm confused why McCain would have an odd number of delegates.

[defe07]

Romney now has 12 of Michigan's 30 delegates and McCain has 9.  The other 9 are still out.

This puts Romney at 42, Huckabee at 21, McCain at 19.  Romney only needs 1,149 more delegates to win the nomination.

Anybody have any clue how CNN (which I assume is your source) is assigning these delegates?

Well, if you allocate the delegates by the statewide vote, it would be quite proportional. Romney has 39% and he has 12/30= 40% of the delegates and McCain has 30% and he has 9/30= 30% of the delegates. And according to my numbers, the delegates would be as follows:

Romney 11.7
McCain 9
Huckabee 4.8
Paul 1.8

(A candidate had to get at least 5%) The delegates add to 25 and even if you give each of them (except for McCain because he doesn't have a remainder) an extra delegate, there would be one remaining. In this case, it should go to Romney. With this, the result could be:

Romney 14
McCain 9
Huckabee 5
Paul 2

[Torie]

The county map is interesting: there's a vertical line down the center of the state, with McCain counties on the western side of it and Romney counties on the eastern side.

Is there a link to the map?

http://politics.nytimes.com/election-guide/2008/results/states/MI.html

[Torie]

The county map is interesting: there's a vertical line down the center of the state, with McCain counties on the western side of it and Romney counties on the eastern side.

Is there a link to the map?

http://politics.nytimes.com/election-guide/2008/results/states/MI.html

Thanks! McCain wins lower income more rural area in general. High income Traverse City goes to Mitt even though it is in the west, along with more urban Grand Rapids.

[Erc]

CD Results (Preliminary):

CD 1:
Romney 32.9%
McCain 35.5%

CD 2:
Romney 31.6%
McCain 37.0%

CD 3:
Romney 37.0%
McCain 31.3%

CD 4:
Romney 36.5%
McCain 33.8%

CD 5:
Romney 33.8%
McCain 27.1%

CD 6:
Romney 24.4%
McCain 36.7%

CD 7:
Romney 33.5%
McCain 32.4%

CD 8:
(No results reported by SoS)

CD 9:
(No results)

CD 10:
Romney 42.5%
McCain 25.2%

CD 11:
(No results)

CD 12:
Romney 44.6%
McCain 24.9%

CD 13:
(No results)

CD 15:
(No results)

If it's two per CD, that should be a total of 6 for McCain, 14 for Romney, 10 unassigned.

[Erc]

Romney now has 12 of Michigan's 30 delegates and McCain has 9.  The other 9 are still out.

This puts Romney at 42, Huckabee at 21, McCain at 19.  Romney only needs 1,149 more delegates to win the nomination.

Anybody have any clue how CNN (which I assume is your source) is assigning these delegates?

Well, if you allocate the delegates by the statewide vote, it would be quite proportional. Romney has 39% and he has 12/30= 40% of the delegates and McCain has 30% and he has 9/30= 30% of the delegates. And according to my numbers, the delegates would be as follows:

Romney 11.7
McCain 9
Huckabee 4.8
Paul 1.8

(A candidate had to get at least 5%) The delegates add to 25 and even if you give each of them (except for McCain because he doesn't have a remainder) an extra delegate, there would be one remaining. In this case, it should go to Romney. With this, the result could be:

Romney 14
McCain 9
Huckabee 5
Paul 2

Some of the delegates are assigned by CD as well...nobody's sure what the breakdown between by-CD & At-Large delegates is, to my knowledge (post-penalties).

[Lincoln Republican]

This result stems from:

A. Romney's Native Son advantage
B. Lack of significant Independent and Democrat turnout
C. Poor weather conditions affecting turnout

Oh, I understand now, it was the snow that caused the perennial Presidential candidate McCain, who has been running for President non stop since 2000, to lose massively to Romney, combined with the fact that Republicans wanted to vote for Romney and not McCain.  Oh, those darned Republicans.

Talk about spin, spin, spin.  Even Mccain's spokesman didn't come up with these lame excuses for his boss's colossal loss.

Just admit it, Romney thumped McCain, big time.