ABC/Facebook NH Republican and Democratic Debate Thread

[Meeker]

I've got to go to my mother's birthday dinner, but I really couldn't be happier right now. In order to get third Edwards needed a good night and Clinton needed to have a bad one and both are happening. Yahoo!

[Gabu]

Clinton: "WHAT WE NEED TO DOOOOOOOOO >: ( >: ("

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

I don't know whether anyone's caught onto this tonight, but the Clinton message actually sounds like what George Bush did against McCain in SC in 2000.  

After McCain won on a message of reform in NH, Bush's change in message was to be the "reformer with results" in SC.

The advantage to Bush was that he had 2 1/2 weeks in-between NH and SC to give this message.

She won't win South Carolina. I don't care what she says from here on out. However, interesting note was that I was listening to a black talk radio and they still didn't believe America was ready for a black President, and went on to say Hillary would still win.

[afleitch]

Not to sound bias here, but I really do think Edwards is doing better than Obama tonight.

Completely non-hackish.

Arguably true, but meaningless. Whats important is that they are both doing better than Clinton.

Agreed. Clinton has narrowed her Indy defecit a little.

[Gabu]

God, Charlie needs to shut up.

[Eraserhead]

I've got to go to my mother's birthday dinner, but I really couldn't be happier right now. In order to get third Edwards needed a good night and Clinton needed to have a bad one and both are happening. Yahoo!

You mean second right?

[Jake]

And Charlie Gibson shows how little he knows even about the upper middle class.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

This is the Edwards I supported in 2004.

[Sam Spade]

I don't know whether anyone's caught onto this tonight, but the Clinton message actually sounds like what George Bush did against McCain in SC in 2000.  

After McCain won on a message of reform in NH, Bush's change in message was to be the "reformer with results" in SC.

The advantage to Bush was that he had 2 1/2 weeks in-between NH and SC to give this message.

She won't win South Carolina. I don't care what she says from here on out. However, interesting note was that I was listening to a black talk radio and they still didn't believe America was ready for a black President, and went on to say Hillary would still win.

Wasn't commenting on the South Carolina primary, just on the message, which has been adopted in between IA and NH.

[afleitch]

When Edwards gets going he's good. He's very good.

[StateBoiler]

Not to sound bias here, but I really do think Edwards is doing better than Obama tonight.

Completely non-hackish.

Arguably true, but meaningless. Whats important is that they are both doing better than Clinton.

Edwards need to hit Obama. The only way Edwards can win is to make this a two-person race between himself and Hillary. This whole partnership he has with Obama still equals "Obama wins, Edwards loses".

[Gabu]

Edwards is blinking up a storm.

[Democratic Hawk]

I've got to go to my mother's birthday dinner

At this time of night

Feels like an age since Obama spoke. It's as though he can't get a word in edgeways. This audience likes what Edwards is saying right now

Oh Barack's on now

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

Obama has to be better in these things - the excuse given "he doesn't like them" isn't good enough.

[Speed of Sound]

Not to sound bias here, but I really do think Edwards is doing better than Obama tonight.

Completely non-hackish.

Arguably true, but meaningless. Whats important is that they are both doing better than Clinton.

Edwards need to hit Obama. The only way Edwards can win is to make this a two-person race between himself and Hillary. This whole partnership he has with Obama still equals "Obama wins, Edwards loses".

Edwards isnt dumb. He knows he cant win. What he also knows is that Obama is waaaaay closer to his beliefs than Hillary, and Edwards is enough of a man to know what he needs to do to push ahead his agenda, and it isnt to bump Obama out of the race.

[Nutmeg]

This is the Edwards I supported in 2004.

Finally, he's back.

[John Dibble]

Not to sound bias here, but I really do think Edwards is doing better than Obama tonight.

Completely non-hackish.

Arguably true, but meaningless. Whats important is that they are both doing better than Clinton.

Edwards need to hit Obama. The only way Edwards can win is to make this a two-person race between himself and Hillary. This whole partnership he has with Obama still equals "Obama wins, Edwards loses".

Edwards isnt dumb. He knows he cant win. What he also knows is that Obama is waaaaay closer to his beliefs than Hillary, and Edwards is enough of a man to know what he needs to do to push ahead his agenda, and it isnt to bump Obama out of the race.

Also, if he seems supportive of Obama there's always a chance he might get the VP pick.

[afleitch]

Bloody hell Richardson. He was up at about +7

[Democratic Hawk]

You can win debates time and time again and come off second best. Ask John Kerry

That's right Bill. The Democratic Party used to OWN prosperity . No wonder he was +7

[Gabu]

Apparently Clinton didn't make any mistakes in debates.

[Speed of Sound]

Apparently Clinton didn't make any mistakes in debates.

Robot engineers are near flawless these days, Gabu.

[Gabu]

OOOOOOO ROMANCE edwards hits on hillary

[Lief 🗽]

God... why couldn't Edwards have done this before he lost Iowa.

OOOOOOO ROMANCE edwards hits on hillary

ROFL

[Gabu]

ugh, come on obama, answer the question

[Eraserhead]

Obama has to be better in these things - the excuse given "he doesn't like them" isn't good enough.

No he doesn't. He did fine and he is winning the elections. So what would be the point?