Religion - I am A?

[Josh/Devilman88]

I am a Southern Baptist.

The most Consv. Christian Group on the Face of Earth

[Keystone Phil]

I am a Southern Baptist.

The most Consv. Christian Group on the Face of Earth

Then how do you explain Al Gore?  I am pretty sure he is a southern Baptist.

[ThePrezMex]

I am a Southern Baptist.

The most Consv. Christian Group on the Face of Earth

Then how do you explain Al Gore?  I am pretty sure he is a southern Baptist.

Same as Clinton

[12th Doctor]

I'm Catholic, but you know, we aren't really Christians, because we worship Mary and statues and have the anti-Christ leading our Church and supposedly aren't biblical.

[angus]

I'm Catholic, but you know, we aren't really Christians, because we worship Mary and statues and have the anti-Christ leading our Church and supposedly aren't biblical.

I don't think it's unfair to say that it is the least monotheistic and patriarchal of the monotheistic religions.  Can you imagine a Jew or Prot or Muslim or Zoroastrian talking Trinity?  (No, I don't mean the Catholic-lite Episcopalians, either)  It is no coincidence that the French missionaries had a much easier time in Indochine and the Spanish had such an easy time converting polytheists to catholocism than prots have.  In fact, I believe the Bishop of Rome allows a great deal of latitude and interpretation, still, in the prefectures of South America.  I myself have witnessed ceremonies in Guatemala and Peru which are performed by Catholic priests but which also make allowances for preColumbian dieties.  I don't claim to understand it, as Christianity, like all monotheistic faiths, seems to require exclusivity, but I'm certain that in parts of the world Catholocism co-exists with polytheism.  And that it is the very nature of its mysticism which makes it easier for Catholocism to do this than the more abjectly monotheistic religions do.  

[12th Doctor]

I'm Catholic, but you know, we aren't really Christians, because we worship Mary and statues and have the anti-Christ leading our Church and supposedly aren't biblical.

I don't think it's unfair to say that it is the least monotheistic and patriarchal of the monotheistic religions.  Can you imagine a Jew or Prot or Muslim or Zoroastrian talking Trinity?  (No, I don't mean the Catholic-lite Episcopalians, either)  It is no coincidence that the French missionaries had a much easier time in Indochine and the Spanish had such an easy time converting polytheists to catholocism than prots have.  In fact, I believe the Bishop of Rome allows a great deal of latitude and interpretation, still, in the prefectures of South America.  I myself have witnessed ceremonies in Guatemala and Peru which are performed by Catholic priests but which also make allowances for preColumbian dieties.  I don't claim to understand it, as Christianity, like all monotheistic faiths, seems to require exclusivity, but I'm certain that in parts of the world Catholocism co-exists with polytheism.  And that it is the very nature of its mysticism which makes it easier for Catholocism to do this than the more abjectly monotheistic religions do.  

Well, the Bible makes it very claer that there are three persons- the Father, Son and Holy Spirit- in one.  Any Protestant who claims to be Bible believe, but ignores this fact is in error.

P.S.  Which I find amusing, because I believe that Jmfcst is not a believer in the Trinity.

[Huckleberry Finn]

Lutheran.

[angus]

Well, you're much better versed in this subject than am I, but I still think that's a very subtle and difficult thing for most folks to get their minds around.  I'll assume the Eastern rite churches have the same trinity, but that Lutherans and Calvinists and Presbyterians don't.  Not sure about evangelical protestants and Mormons.  And, not to offend, but I think it may be viewed by some scholars as a departure from strict monotheism.  I was taught to pray to Saints for intervention, for example.  I'm sure other monotheists don't do that.  Anyway, I know that wasn't your original point.  Your point was about misconceptions.  And I agree, misconceptions abound when it comes to religion.  Not just about Catholocism.  Imagine how Muslims must feel right about now.

[12th Doctor]

I was taught to pray to Saints for intervention, for example.  I'm sure other monotheists don't do that.  

Another misconceptions.  Catholics are not to pray to saints and others, simply to ask them for their prayers.

[Lunar]

Agnostic, somewhere between "Believe God with no denomination" and "athiest."  I personally feel more attracted to a more personal religion with no church heirarchy involved, but am not very religious myself.

I don't really think much of religion, I don't really care if there is a God or not because I absolutely do not believe in hell.

Or something.

[angus]

I was taught to pray to Saints for intervention, for example.  I'm sure other monotheists don't do that.  

Another misconceptions.  Catholics are not to pray to saints and others, simply to ask them for their prayers.

damn, you're right.  I can still remember father burleson giving my mother the last rights like it was yesterday, even though that was 13 years ago.  I can still hear him saying, "Saint whatever, pray for us, ..."  I can also probably still recall hail holy queen and others which are prayers to saints to p  ---

Oh, wait, I have an epiphany.  I have to think about it some more, but might that just be an understanding among anglocentric (or, more broadly, Germanic peoples), as opposed to Romance peoples, due to language.  For example, in Latin and Spanish, the same verb is used for "to pray" and "to ask" in some senses.  Pedir is the spanish word, I forget the latin.  Oh, I have to think about this more, but I can imagine "Asking Mary" getting turned into "praying to mary"  Oh, seriously, think about it.  OOh, this is the sort of historico-linguistic hypothesis that needs some more thought.  But you can see how that might happen.

[12th Doctor]

I was taught to pray to Saints for intervention, for example.  I'm sure other monotheists don't do that.  

Another misconceptions.  Catholics are not to pray to saints and others, simply to ask them for their prayers.

damn, you're right.  I can still remember father burleson giving my mother the last rights like it was yesterday, even though that was 13 years ago.  I can still hear him saying, "Saint whatever, pray for us, ..."  I can also probably still recall hail holy queen and others which are prayers to saints to p  ---

Oh, wait, I have an epiphany.  I have to think about it some more, but might that just be an understanding among anglocentric (or, more broadly, Germanic peoples), as opposed to Romance peoples, due to language.  For example, in Latin and Spanish, the same verb is used for "to pray" and "to ask" in some senses.  Pedir is the spanish word, I forget the latin.  Oh, I have to think about this more, but I can imagine "Asking Mary" getting turned into "praying to mary"  Oh, seriously, think about it.  OOh, this is the sort of historico-linguistic hypothesis that needs some more thought.  But you can see how that might happen.

What is the old saying... "The Devil is in the details".  Oh course certain other faiths have perverted Catholic belief over the years to be what it is not by misrepresenting the details of what we believe.  Certainly, no Catholic "prays to Saints", but it sounds bad if presented in that light.

[raggage]

I am a Southern Baptist.

The most Consv. Christian Group on the Face of Earth

Haha. Don't I know that. I once did an exchange with police in Raliegh, North Carolina. I spent a portion of that time living with a fellow officer (a female) in a town called Winston-Salem.

When this was found out by the polive in Winston-Salem they looked at me really funny and told me I should be ashamed of myself for 'living in sin'.

[angus]

Just when I thought the ghost of Bonjovi was dead, someone comes along and puts an old bonjovi lyric in my noggin.  Dammit.

[Bogart]

Lutheran

[Nation]

I'm Catholic, but you know, we aren't really Christians, because we worship Mary and statues and have the anti-Christ leading our Church and supposedly aren't biblical.

The truth comes out!

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

I'm Catholic, but you know, we aren't really Christians, because we worship Mary and statues and have the anti-Christ leading our Church and supposedly aren't biblical.

I don't think it's unfair to say that it is the least monotheistic and patriarchal of the monotheistic religions.  Can you imagine a Jew or Prot or Muslim or Zoroastrian talking Trinity?  (No, I don't mean the Catholic-lite Episcopalians, either)  It is no coincidence that the French missionaries had a much easier time in Indochine and the Spanish had such an easy time converting polytheists to catholocism than prots have.  In fact, I believe the Bishop of Rome allows a great deal of latitude and interpretation, still, in the prefectures of South America.  I myself have witnessed ceremonies in Guatemala and Peru which are performed by Catholic priests but which also make allowances for preColumbian dieties.  I don't claim to understand it, as Christianity, like all monotheistic faiths, seems to require exclusivity, but I'm certain that in parts of the world Catholocism co-exists with polytheism.  And that it is the very nature of its mysticism which makes it easier for Catholocism to do this than the more abjectly monotheistic religions do.  

Well, the Bible makes it very claer that there are three persons- the Father, Son and Holy Spirit- in one.  Any Protestant who claims to be Bible believe, but ignores this fact is in error.

P.S.  Which I find amusing, because I believe that Jmfcst is not a believer in the Trinity.

that's only a few way out there denominations that reject the Trinity like Oneness Pentecostals, but I can see Jmfcst as a member of some nutty denomination like that.

[Josh/Devilman88]

Well Bill and Al was 2 bad seeds in the apple

[ijohn57s]

Independent Baptist

[Kodratos]

Other: Greek Orthodox Christian

[Josh/Devilman88]

Other: Greek Orthodox Christian

What is that?

[Lunar]

Other: Greek Orthodox Christian

What is that?

There is the Orthodox section of the church, as opposed to Catholic and Protestant.  The two main sects are Russian Orthodox and Greek Orthodox.

(I think)

[Josh/Devilman88]

Other: Greek Orthodox Christian

What is that?

There is the Orthodox section of the church, as opposed to Catholic and Protestant.  The two main sects are Russian Orthodox and Greek Orthodox.

(I think)

Oh, what is the differents? Like Catholic pray to Mary, all that other stuff. And Protestans, pray to God and all that other stuff.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Like Catholic pray to Mary

wrong.

The Orthodox denominations are very similar to Catholic, except they don't recongize the authority of the Pope.

[Keystone Phil]

Other: Greek Orthodox Christian

What is that?

There is the Orthodox section of the church, as opposed to Catholic and Protestant.  The two main sects are Russian Orthodox and Greek Orthodox.

(I think)

Oh, what is the differents? Like Catholic pray to Mary, all that other stuff. And Protestans, pray to God and all that other stuff.

Ummm Josh, Catholics pray to God, also.