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« Reply #100 on: December 07, 2007, 05:29:13 PM »

Dudley shrugs at Mr. Watson's suggestion
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« Reply #101 on: December 07, 2007, 11:33:19 PM »

I think that Mr Dudley would make a fine gavel-basher.

I would like to second that motion!
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« Reply #102 on: December 07, 2007, 11:50:46 PM »


I will third it.
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« Reply #103 on: December 07, 2007, 11:52:56 PM »

Dudley rises with perspiration on his brow...

Very well, if it be your wishes. I will ask if there is any objection to my serving as Convention President? If there isn't I will immidiately set to work.
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« Reply #104 on: December 08, 2007, 10:06:40 AM »

I object.

I disagree in having such authority, during the decision making process in the hands of one individual.
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« Reply #105 on: December 08, 2007, 10:32:58 AM »

I find myself in agreement with Mr. Denoix.
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« Reply #106 on: December 08, 2007, 11:41:28 AM »

Douglas Hordern (SCP-Hesperia)

I'm perfectly willing to allow Mr. Dudley the opportunity to show that he is a saint and not a sinner.
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« Reply #107 on: December 08, 2007, 01:21:10 PM »

Al Hill(SDP:Reginia)

What is so bad about this idea?  For this convention to work we need someone to take the seat of authority, otherwise nothing will be accomplished.  Do you have another proposal in response?
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« Reply #108 on: December 08, 2007, 09:19:46 PM »

Dudley

Some kind of order needs kept, gentleman. If you want the job, then by all means take it, but we need someone to maintain some kind of control on votes and debate. We have everyone moving off in all directions. Mr. Hordern's motion needs voted on. Votes need taken. That's all I see the position as. To keep motions and votes in order? Would you rather just do it as chaotic as possible?... How are we to do anything, I ask you? Someone must take the job.
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« Reply #109 on: December 08, 2007, 10:14:06 PM »

A convention without a chairman is like a hog auction without an auctioneer... it just doesn't work, folks.
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« Reply #110 on: December 09, 2007, 01:10:34 AM »

How about we just move this to a vote. I will abstain.

All in favor of Egbert Dudley (Myself) taking over the post of Convention Chair, vote aye, nay, or abstain.
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« Reply #111 on: December 09, 2007, 06:12:14 AM »

Aye
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« Reply #112 on: December 09, 2007, 12:36:36 PM »

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« Reply #113 on: December 09, 2007, 12:41:16 PM »

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« Reply #114 on: December 09, 2007, 12:52:35 PM »

Nay.

For the nominated candidate to move this to a vote without an alternate proposal after two objections and less than 24 hours after dissent was expressed is highly unethical. For the record of this Convention I would have supported the establishment of a chair and vice chair giving the vice chair the authority to publically voice dissent and for that dissent to be considered.

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« Reply #115 on: December 09, 2007, 02:17:49 PM »

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« Reply #116 on: December 09, 2007, 05:35:20 PM »

Nay
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« Reply #117 on: December 09, 2007, 07:52:09 PM »

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« Reply #118 on: December 09, 2007, 09:31:03 PM »

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« Reply #119 on: December 10, 2007, 12:29:49 AM »

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« Reply #120 on: December 10, 2007, 12:40:15 AM »

If you wish to propose someone else, then do it. I wanted this to move to vote, because I want to get things done, sir. Endless bickering and disorder does not accomplish anything. The position of Chairman had already been created with Mr. Jones, sir.

To suggest what I did by proposing a vote as dishonest is highly insulting to me, sir. I frankly, don't care who is Chairman, as long as we have some order. We can move about for a Vice-Chair nomination if you so wish.
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« Reply #121 on: December 10, 2007, 01:22:53 AM »

I nominate Mr. Denoix for said position.
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« Reply #122 on: December 10, 2007, 01:29:17 AM »


Vice-Chair, correct?
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« Reply #123 on: December 10, 2007, 03:32:26 AM »


Yes
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« Reply #124 on: December 10, 2007, 04:07:00 AM »

If you wish to propose someone else, then do it. I wanted this to move to vote, because I want to get things done, sir. Endless bickering and disorder does not accomplish anything. The position of Chairman had already been created with Mr. Jones, sir.

To suggest what I did by proposing a vote as dishonest is highly insulting to me, sir. I frankly, don't care who is Chairman, as long as we have some order. We can move about for a Vice-Chair nomination if you so wish.

I did not suggest that a movement to vote was dishonest, I stated it was inadvertantly unethical. Nor sir do I believe it to have been intentional. I agree with the need to keep the process in motion, but not at the expense of proper consultation and debate. I say this too regarding my own unexpected nomination as vice-chair before that issue has been discussed. We have to establish a timescale as to how long a period time a motion can remain on the floor before deliberation, and how long voting is open before the motion is carried or struck down. I don't believe I am being a 'blocker' by suggesting we establish these basic rules.

I would also suggest to the next Chair that as a Convention we should be able to decide upon multiple issues over a set time period instead of proceeding in such a linear fashion.
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