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« on: July 31, 2004, 09:41:44 PM »

It is the 1850s and America is beginning to grow farther apart. The winner of this primary goes on to win the general election and oversees bleeding Kansas, the caning of Charles Sumner, and futher erosion of the fabric holding the union together. These are all the candidates from that year, as a delegate do you vote for

Franklin Pierce - The nominee in real life who was a compromise choice, a strict constructionalist, and a man who believed the slavery issue had already been settled. He also had a winning, personality and a fair military record from the Mexican War

William Marcy - The eventual secretary of state who belonged to the "soft shell" faction of the Democratic party which favored reconciliation with the Van Buren faction which had seceeded in the 1848 election. He also had extensive public service that dated to the days of Andrew Jackson

Stephen Douglas - The young candidate who had played a major role in the passing of the 1850 compromise and would go on to do the same for the Kansas Nebraska act. Also one of the younger, more captivating candidates

James Buchanan - The old diplomat  and foreign minister who would go on to be president in 1856 and would help write the ill-fated Ostend Manifesto. Also one of the older party members who was a champion of party loyalty.

Lewis Cass - The loser of the 1848 election and the choice of the "Hunkers" (mainstream Democrats who wanted to get party leaders elected by ignoring the slavery issue). Also nearly seventy years old and a supporter of popular sovereignty

Sam Houston - The old Texan who despite being one of the few southern candidates, had most of his credibility among the south gone because of a possible association with the Free Soilers. Also yet another fairly old candidate along with Marcy, Buchanan, and Cass

William Butler - The Vice President on the 1848 ticket and a compromise candidate at the convention who destroyed much of his support by supporting the right of slaveholders to carry slaves into all US territories.
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« Reply #1 on: August 01, 2004, 02:06:09 PM »

I vote for Douglas. His idea of Popular Sovernty was the right idea, leave slavery to the territories.
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« Reply #2 on: August 01, 2004, 02:06:56 PM »

William Butler, Sam Houston, and William Marcy were all candidates for the Constitutional Union Party nomination in 1860.
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« Reply #3 on: August 01, 2004, 03:44:53 PM »

Let's see. Sam Houston, the renowned general, senator, governor of two United States, and two time president of the Republic of Texas; hero of San Jacinto, humbler of the brutal tyrant Antonio Lopez de Santa Anna, Southern leader who stood up against slavery despite the hostility of his own party, the man who fought secession with everything he had in him but finally advised Abe Lincoln not to send a suicide military mission to redeem his governorhip? Or one of six uninspiring status quo politicians? Hmmm... tough. I'll have to think about it.

Guess I'll go with Houston.
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« Reply #4 on: August 01, 2004, 06:17:22 PM »

Buchanan. A man who understood the law! And followed it.
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« Reply #5 on: August 02, 2004, 01:54:01 AM »
« Edited: August 02, 2004, 01:57:44 AM by Lunar »

Buchanan. A man who understood the law! And followed it.

THE worst president of the United States.  Thousands upon thousands of lives could have been saved if he cut the Civil War off at the start.

Remember, we're only deciding the Democratic Convention.  You can't say "Buchanon, but only if Lincoln isn't elected."
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« Reply #6 on: August 03, 2004, 09:40:39 PM »

Tough choice between Douglas and Houston.
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« Reply #7 on: August 04, 2004, 01:41:55 PM »

Marcy.  I know nothing about him but he's from NY.
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« Reply #8 on: August 05, 2004, 05:18:29 PM »

Douglas
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« Reply #9 on: August 17, 2009, 02:22:45 PM »

Houston.
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« Reply #10 on: August 17, 2009, 03:04:28 PM »

Sam Houston.
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« Reply #11 on: August 17, 2009, 06:30:44 PM »

A Cass/Douglas ticket sounds good.
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