Why do so many non-white/non-cis Trump supporters tolerate hate from within MAGA?
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  Why do so many non-white/non-cis Trump supporters tolerate hate from within MAGA?
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« on: March 12, 2025, 07:06:10 PM »

I find this really interesting because you always hear Conservatives (and ex-liberals) complain about how they don't feel welcome in Democrat spaces because they're too left wing, ideologically pure, ect, and then try and downplay "actually Republicans aren't racist/sexist/xenophobic anymore".

What sparked this thread is this debate on Jubilee: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Js15xgK4LIE

Basically there are 20 Conservatives/MAGAs sitting in a circle taking turns to debate "Progressive" Sam Seder on hot-button issues. Many clips have gone viral on social media recently

And it's just striking. At one point, one of the Trump supporters is straight up arguing gay marriage should be illegal. A few minutes later a gay Trump supporter comes up and asks his fellow MAGAs to raise they're hand if they'd have a problem with 2 men kissing in public, and in fact a majority of them appear to, but he just brushes it off as "whatever".

Another example - one of the Trump supporters goes up and basically says America shouldn't be a melting pot and we need to bring back white Christian nationalism and need bring back a "dominant European culture", and the body language of several of the Trump supporters in the audience make it very clear they agree with her- but mind you a good share of the Trump supporters on this video are non-white. And ironically the girl making this argument is actually an immigrant herself.

We've also seen it happen in the public arena - look what happened to Vivek during the media cycle about H1B Visas.

Why do so many of these non-white, or LGBTQ Trump supporters just not seem to care? Do they think these voices are just an unserious minority in the party and so they don't really need to worry? Do they think that somehow by being MAGA, they'll be immune? Like I'm genuinely curious to the psychology of what's going on, and why many seem to even view intolerance on the left as a bigger issue?

And it's not like they're calling it out, but by and large from what I've seen they're not and just tolerate it.
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« Reply #1 on: March 12, 2025, 07:07:55 PM »

They don't but they also don't let peoples intolerance influence their opinions.
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« Reply #2 on: March 12, 2025, 07:12:53 PM »

I mean take the Vivek example for a second . Sure he got a lot of hate online but despite that Trump ended endorsing him the second he announced his gubernatorial bid. So why would Vivek think the Republicans treat him badly because he’s almost certainly gonna be the first Hindu gubernatorial nominee in history from either major party .
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« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2025, 07:15:29 PM »

1. They think they're "one of the good ones".

2. Their hate for other groups (sexism from nonwhite men, racism from white women, etc.) is more important to them than anything else.
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« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2025, 07:18:16 PM »

I'm surprised an important reason hasn't come up yet: how Democrats treat conservative or conservative-leaning minorities.

For starters, they take them for granted because they view groups as big monoliths and let these activist advocacy groups run all their messaging for them, even if those groups are wildly out of touch.

Then, when these groups swing to Republicans, they basically give up on trying to win them (see Cubans and Tejanos). Like no outreach is done so these one-time Republicans just morph into lifelong Republicans.
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« Reply #5 on: March 12, 2025, 07:44:34 PM »

I'm surprised an important reason hasn't come up yet: how Democrats treat conservative or conservative-leaning minorities.

For starters, they take them for granted because they view groups as big monoliths and let these activist advocacy groups run all their messaging for them, even if those groups are wildly out of touch.

Then, when these groups swing to Republicans, they basically give up on trying to win them (see Cubans and Tejanos). Like no outreach is done so these one-time Republicans just morph into lifelong Republicans.

Democrats do deserve some of the blame. They should've known relying purely on left wing social issues was going to alienate some conservative leaning minorities. Especially since they have eased back on a lot of New Deal era politics that got the minority vote to begin with. In a weird way the Democrats double down on a lot of the worst aspects of the Democratic Party while also doubling down on the worst aspects of the Republican party. Like neo conservatism, cronyism, and compassionate politics. In the worst possible era.
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