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« on: March 11, 2025, 02:19:36 PM »

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Remember how it was only about "protect muh girls' sports".
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« Reply #1 on: March 11, 2025, 02:22:08 PM »

Haters gonna hate
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« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2025, 02:23:32 PM »

I would think that anyone familiar with the concept of transition would be familiar with the concept of detransition.
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« Reply #3 on: March 11, 2025, 03:18:55 PM »

This is bizarrely not the only awareness day for former LGBTQ+ folk to have gotten traction in the conservative movement. In one of the final articles the Daily Signal published before it got spun off from the Heritage Foundation, airtime was given to Ex-Gay Visibility Day, which was invented by Jennifer Roback Morse of the Ruth Institute (an obscure think tank that has nevertheless been an SPLC-designated hate group for the past twelve years). No word on whether the Trump administration is going to be pushing her agenda this June, as well.
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« Reply #4 on: March 11, 2025, 03:34:26 PM »

Well, on the bright side, this will be a great way to make trans people seem cool to a new generation.
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« Reply #5 on: March 11, 2025, 03:39:03 PM »

Gee, for people that can't stand "trans" they're talking a great deal about it.  It's part of their agenda.  So I don't want to hear that Democrats talk about it - the Republicans are also talking about it - and with increasingly rage-filled rhetoric.  That these members of Congress believe that they need to align themselves with a "de-trans" movement shows you where their heads are at these days.

The "ex-gay movement" of the 90s was widely talked about, and heavily pushed by antigay commentators, activists, and politicians.  There was quite a list of members of Congress who were notoriously antigay - to the point where it became part of their biography.  They made it their issue.  Jesse Helms was a big one, but there were others.  

Even in the Republican leadership there were people like House Majority Leader Dick Armey, who once said he "misspoke" when he called gay congressman Barney Frank "Barney Fag".  Barney's reply was great: “I turned to my own expert, my mother, who reports that in 59 years of marriage, no one ever introduced her as Elsie Fag."

You had, when I was about 19, the next House Majority Leader, Tom DeLay, raging against "sodomites" at a televised rally.
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« Reply #6 on: March 11, 2025, 03:47:02 PM »

Well, on the bright side, this will be a great way to make trans people seem cool to a new generation.

You really have the worst views on everything.
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« Reply #7 on: March 11, 2025, 03:57:23 PM »

I don't get this concept of someone saying "I used to live as a man, but now, I don't.  Now I identify as a woman and I'm so happy."

Why the heck would you have wanted to live as a man in the first place if you're so happy as a woman?  And why do so many of these stories involve a religious conversion after experiencing depression and other bad feelings after they come out?

I'd like to see the stories of people that transition, detransition, and then retransition again.
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« Reply #8 on: March 11, 2025, 03:59:49 PM »

Well, on the bright side, this will be a great way to make trans people seem cool to a new generation.

You really have the worst views on everything.

It's okay to be trans.

That doesn't mean it's okay to play sports with the cis girls and it doesn't mean puberty blockers should be legal, but identifying as trans and doing whatever the hell you want once you're 18 is fine.
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« Reply #9 on: March 11, 2025, 04:22:26 PM »

They could have just condensed it into a two minutes hate.
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« Reply #10 on: March 11, 2025, 04:24:36 PM »

And in other related news, a hearing gets out of control:




Pathetically, Congresswoman Keith Self is called out.
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« Reply #11 on: March 11, 2025, 04:30:27 PM »

Well, on the bright side, this will be a great way to make trans people seem cool to a new generation.

You really have the worst views on everything.

I'm strongly pro-trans! And, more generally, really really strongly in favor of bodily autonomy and body modification. I became much more disillusioned from the general global far-right network after Meloni cracked down on surrogacy, and -- for all of their many, many flaws -- it really heartens me to see Trump and Musk, at the very least, not falling for that sort of thing.

(OTOH, I do think including transgender individuals in womens' sports -- whether MTF or FTM, actually -- is not fair to cis women. It's sad that it turned out that way, but it is what it is.)

That doesn't mean it's okay to play sports with the cis girls and it doesn't mean puberty blockers should be legal, but identifying as trans and doing whatever the hell you want once you're 18 is fine.

When puberty blockers are illegal, only criminals will have puberty blockers. (On a serious note, this feels like the sort of choice that should be left to a child's parents.)
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« Reply #12 on: March 11, 2025, 04:34:02 PM »

Well, on the bright side, this will be a great way to make trans people seem cool to a new generation.

You really have the worst views on everything.

It's okay to be trans.

That doesn't mean it's okay to play sports with the cis girls and it doesn't mean puberty blockers should be legal, but identifying as trans and doing whatever the hell you want once you're 18 is fine.
It's incredible how you're apparently incapable of expressing support for trans people under attack without making sure to bring up the anti trans, anti-science positions you hold. The quality of the evidence that Puberty blockers and HRT for minors are helpful is perfectly standard for pediatric medicine(especially since randomized control trials cannot even evaluate gender affirming care in any effective way, seeing as the physical changes presence or absence makes it extremely easy to tell which group one is in), and pediatric hospitals would see a lot more dead kids if they were forced to stop using any procedure, medicine, etc that does not meet the unrealistically "high" standard of evidence anti trans ideologues pretend is normal in pediatric medicine. And the questions around how to evaluate the "quality" of evidence are afaik controversial within the field as well.
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« Reply #13 on: March 11, 2025, 04:35:25 PM »

F**k me.

Leave these people alone.



50 years from now, today's Republicans will be viewed as vile and loathsome creatures. That doesn't help the kids today, though, who are having to withstand hate, ridicule, and violence just for being born a certain way.

This would be like hating someone for having brown hair.
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« Reply #14 on: March 11, 2025, 04:44:53 PM »

Some people detransition because they get the chance to try an alternative on for size and it doesn't quite work as they'd hoped. The best practices for trans healthcare leave room for this, letting people move at their own pace and pay attention to how they respond instead of feeling like they have to prove who they are as a singular symptom rather than a constantly evolving being as we all are.

The right-wing detrans influencer against "gender ideology" is the product of external trans hate, a lack of access to the right medical resources and/or those resources not following best practices, and the inevitable stresses of transitioning all congealing into the ineffable desire to be seen and felt as oneself acceding entirely to what a right-wing ideology that claims to be all for alienated people adrift in postmodernism presents as its desired messenger. The uncertainties surrounding trying to live for oneself amidst adversity are subsumed into the satisfaction of living for the Law which demands total surrender of the self but rewards it with the sense of belonging to something with perpetual approval of the patronizing "oh, you made a mistake, let's get you back in shape" sort for being an attack dog. It is a condemnation, not an endorsement by token reuptake, of transphobia in all of its forms.
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« Reply #15 on: March 11, 2025, 04:49:47 PM »

This is horrid.
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« Reply #16 on: March 11, 2025, 05:06:22 PM »

In a way, doesn't this just increase trans awareness, and maybe even sympathy for them? I mean, just look how effective the DARE program was.

The median American might not fully understand or accept trans identity, but it's become evident that it only motivates right-wing weirdos and is really bordering on blatantly being the wedge issue obsession it is and always was.

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« Reply #17 on: March 11, 2025, 05:08:16 PM »

This is dumb
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« Reply #18 on: March 11, 2025, 05:10:28 PM »

Losers. They don’t want anyone to be happy because they’re miserable.
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« Reply #19 on: March 11, 2025, 05:10:57 PM »

At this point, they are flirting with the opposite extreme of the "you keep going on about a man in a dress while the economy weakens" vibe that sunk 2024 Dems.  Take the win on this and on DEI and move on.  Average people voted for you because they don't want to have to think about race and gender on a daily basis.
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« Reply #20 on: March 11, 2025, 05:17:23 PM »

This is what I've been trying to say and been repeatedly criticized for saying. This was never about fairness it sports or bathroom safety, it was always about outright hate. Yet Democrats will be labeled as wrong if they speak out against this even though it is a clearly unnecessary action that basically amounts to harassment.

If this is ok then schools should be allowed to have anti-Trump and anti-Republican days.
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« Reply #21 on: March 11, 2025, 05:33:54 PM »

If I get into any sort of extended debate on this I'm probably going to get myself banned, so I'm going to speak once and not look at this topic again.

Trans people belong, they do not deserve to be harassed and persecuted by their own government, and the people pushing this hate are evil and deserving of endless horrors.
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« Reply #22 on: March 11, 2025, 05:35:01 PM »

Parents are the reason things like this are popular. There are few things that most parents fear more than having a child who is LGBT. Mothers and fathers fail to understand a lot of this is genetic predisposition though, and think it's either their failure as parents that led to their child becoming LGBT, or some outside agent converting their child. There is nothing wrong with being LGBT, but it's a hard life - one you would never wish on anybody (I say this as a gay man).
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« Reply #23 on: March 11, 2025, 05:44:56 PM »

Parents are the reason things like this are popular. There are few things that most parents fear more than having a child who is LGBT. Mothers and fathers fail to understand a lot of this is genetic predisposition though, and think it's either their failure as parents that led to their child becoming LGBT, or some outside agent converting their child. There is nothing wrong with being LGBT, but it's a hard life - one you would never wish on anybody (I say this as a gay man).

Tell me exactly how its "popular".
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« Reply #24 on: March 11, 2025, 06:08:04 PM »

Parents are the reason things like this are popular. There are few things that most parents fear more than having a child who is LGBT. Mothers and fathers fail to understand a lot of this is genetic predisposition though, and think it's either their failure as parents that led to their child becoming LGBT, or some outside agent converting their child. There is nothing wrong with being LGBT, but it's a hard life - one you would never wish on anybody (I say this as a gay man).
Very true - It is a hard life.  A very hard life - why anyone would choose this is beyond me.  Why would anyone want to be trans?  At the same time I say trans people are doing the best they can to try and find some kind of peace, but it is not a desirable existence.  We take pride in the battles, we fight through the pain, but nobody should have to go through this.

Hopefully society learns to understand it, and I still feel that science will be the vindicator.  There is a really strong case to be made (and to me no other reason possible) that the fetal development of a baby's brain is what causes all of these issues, and once people begin to realize that, we can try to get rid of the stigma and the fear.

It's a natural part of human life for a small percentage of people to be transgender, just like it is for them to be gay.  That's all there is to it.  You cannot eradicate it.  It is not learned behavior and people do not have a choice or make a choice.  

The easy life is the cis/hetero life.  When you belong to an overwhelming majority of the population.  For everyone else, you're in a world where you are extremely outnumbered.
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