This Nikki Haley quote on Israel is why America is an unserious country.

[Mr. Smith]

Cynical, but she's not necessarily wrong.

It's a bit of Neocon, Bushie perspective, but Israel is the key to the oil and making sure the other countries don't destroy each other with the oil in mere religious squabbles.

By that same logic, even without the near perfect ideological cohesion by the current ruling party and base, Russia has the oil, or at least more of it than Ukraine. To say nothing of climate change opening up the Arctic...which Canada and Greenland simply don't dominate as much of in comparison.

Don't get me wrong, it's all so very perverse, but it's a fairly logical capitalist or feudal conclusion...especially when ethics and sustainability don't have to be considered at all.

[Horus]

If she were president there'd be boots on the ground in Iran. Thank God for the small things.

[Horus]

Even on the right that viewpoint is fading out and pretty much exclusive to boomers. No one under age 50 is saying the "greatest ally" stuff anymore. Even Matt Walsh is starting to turn his wheels and Charlie Kirk is slowly pivoting. (These were people who were hardcore zionists 2 years ago). Widespread support for Israel has <5 years left and it could flip even quicker if the pro-Palestine crowd can put on a better face and not look like cringe college kids.

The youth are the enemy of the people.

Millennials and Zoomers will save this country from the greed, austerity and imperialism of their elders.

[AtorBoltox]

The USS Liberty certainly didn't need Israel.

It’s not really a surprise at this point, but seeing leftists use rhetoric that until two years ago was the exclusive domain of David Duke and Stormfront still throws me for a loop.

[CheapDollarEra?]

There ia this idea that Israel is asort of a container of jihadism (funds go agaisnt Israel instead of to bomb the West), which may be a bit true today but if you see history things are more complex.

Israel is necessary only to the jewish people. Israel needa the US more than viceversa.

[Vosem]

Even on the right that viewpoint is fading out and pretty much exclusive to boomers. No one under age 50 is saying the "greatest ally" stuff anymore. Even Matt Walsh is starting to turn his wheels and Charlie Kirk is slowly pivoting. (These were people who were hardcore zionists 2 years ago). Widespread support for Israel has <5 years left and it could flip even quicker if the pro-Palestine crowd can put on a better face and not look like cringe college kids.

The youth are the enemy of the people.

Millennials and Zoomers will save this country from the greed, austerity and imperialism of their elders.

No. The successful ones who rise to the top will use greed, austerity, and imperialism to get there, and will perpetuate the cycle for more generations to come, just like the generations that preceded them. (And this is a good thing!)

[The '90s' Last Champion]

Even on the right that viewpoint is fading out and pretty much exclusive to boomers. No one under age 50 is saying the "greatest ally" stuff anymore. Even Matt Walsh is starting to turn his wheels and Charlie Kirk is slowly pivoting. (These were people who were hardcore zionists 2 years ago). Widespread support for Israel has <5 years left and it could flip even quicker if the pro-Palestine crowd can put on a better face and not look like cringe college kids.

The youth are the enemy of the people.

Millennials and Zoomers will save this country from the greed, austerity and imperialism of their elders.

No. The successful ones who rise to the top will use greed, austerity, and imperialism to get there, and will perpetuate the cycle for more generations to come, just like the generations that preceded them. (And this is a good thing!)

I wish I shared your optimism, but this new generation seems obsessed with imposing leftist anti-imperialist ideology on us, destroying the social fabric, and supporting all this Bernie-brained massive government handout programs which will blow up the deficit and cause a debt crisis. But I guess for every pessimist there's an optimist.

[Vosem]

Even on the right that viewpoint is fading out and pretty much exclusive to boomers. No one under age 50 is saying the "greatest ally" stuff anymore. Even Matt Walsh is starting to turn his wheels and Charlie Kirk is slowly pivoting. (These were people who were hardcore zionists 2 years ago). Widespread support for Israel has <5 years left and it could flip even quicker if the pro-Palestine crowd can put on a better face and not look like cringe college kids.

The youth are the enemy of the people.

Millennials and Zoomers will save this country from the greed, austerity and imperialism of their elders.

No. The successful ones who rise to the top will use greed, austerity, and imperialism to get there, and will perpetuate the cycle for more generations to come, just like the generations that preceded them. (And this is a good thing!)

I wish I shared your optimism, but this new generation seems obsessed with imposing leftist anti-imperialist ideology on us, destroying the social fabric, and supporting all this Bernie-brained massive government handout programs which will blow up the deficit and cause a debt crisis. But I guess for every pessimist there's an optimist.

https://twitter.com/davidshor/status/1881130371338887569

I mean, we can discuss whether this will actually be good for the Israeli state or not (...I am very economically right-wing, and I'm not sure that's true for you/I'm actually pretty confident it's not true to my extent), but the idea that the current crop of young people is going to resist "greed, austerity, and imperialism" is simply ridiculous. They identify with those things!

In general, "attitude toward some particular foreign country" is a very changeable question -- see the US shifting between ultra-positive and ultra-negative views of Japan or China on a dime. (Or see the epochal rise in support for Israel, for that matter -- ordinary Americans really didn't see the country so positively as recently as the 1980s!) I think the historical pattern is support for Israel increasing during periods of conflict, and I think in this conflict when polling firms have asked people how much attention they're paying to the conflict, they find that paying more attention perfectly correlates with support for Israel -- which makes sense. This is why older Americans support the bombardment of Gaza more than young Americans. Ultimately, the military campaign conforms with the values of both older and younger Americans!

But I think a lot of support for Israel is contingent on pro-Palestinian advocates continuing their decades-long failed media strategy, which is never a guarantee, and this is the kind of thing where big shifts could happen out of nowhere, even if I think the idea that they're happening right now is a fantasy people in the news media are entertaining (...or, really, have been entertaining for several decades).

[Dr. MB]

Even on the right that viewpoint is fading out and pretty much exclusive to boomers. No one under age 50 is saying the "greatest ally" stuff anymore. Even Matt Walsh is starting to turn his wheels and Charlie Kirk is slowly pivoting. (These were people who were hardcore zionists 2 years ago). Widespread support for Israel has <5 years left and it could flip even quicker if the pro-Palestine crowd can put on a better face and not look like cringe college kids.

The youth are the enemy of the people.

Millennials and Zoomers will save this country from the greed, austerity and imperialism of their elders.

No. The successful ones who rise to the top will use greed, austerity, and imperialism to get there, and will perpetuate the cycle for more generations to come, just like the generations that preceded them. (And this is a good thing!)

This mentality deserves, and hopefully soon will be, cast into the dustbin of history where it belongs. The capitalist mode of thinking is something which will be seen as a primitive and antiquated form of social and economic organization just how we view the barbarity of slavery and plunder in ancient civilizations today. The supporters of hierarchical power structures that place a handful of people at the top and enrich them through the systematic exploitation and oppression of the masses should be seen with the same contempt as the people who defended the divine right of kings.

[Don't Tread on Me]

Even on the right that viewpoint is fading out and pretty much exclusive to boomers. No one under age 50 is saying the "greatest ally" stuff anymore. Even Matt Walsh is starting to turn his wheels and Charlie Kirk is slowly pivoting. (These were people who were hardcore zionists 2 years ago). Widespread support for Israel has <5 years left and it could flip even quicker if the pro-Palestine crowd can put on a better face and not look like cringe college kids.

The youth are the enemy of the people.

Millennials and Zoomers will save this country from the greed, austerity and imperialism of their elders.

No. The successful ones who rise to the top will use greed, austerity, and imperialism to get there, and will perpetuate the cycle for more generations to come, just like the generations that preceded them. (And this is a good thing!)

I wish I shared your optimism, but this new generation seems obsessed with imposing leftist anti-imperialist ideology on us, destroying the social fabric, and supporting all this Bernie-brained massive government handout programs which will blow up the deficit and cause a debt crisis. But I guess for every pessimist there's an optimist.

I think that the closest parallel to what we're seeing today with the left is the anti-Vietnam/civil rights protests that we saw during the 60s/70's. I assume that some people during that time assumed that when the Boomers would assume power around the 1980's then they'd usher in an era of equality. In some ways there was change (the ADA/AA are examples), but a lot of the types that today would be the BernieBros/anti-Israel protestors ended up either doubling down on the mistakes of their elders when they startted making money or weren't the ones that became leaders. Unless there's some 1932 type seismic shift
with the electorate, I doubt things are going to change anytime soon.

[K.W.R.A.E. 8647]

Even on the right that viewpoint is fading out and pretty much exclusive to boomers. No one under age 50 is saying the "greatest ally" stuff anymore. Even Matt Walsh is starting to turn his wheels and Charlie Kirk is slowly pivoting. (These were people who were hardcore zionists 2 years ago). Widespread support for Israel has <5 years left and it could flip even quicker if the pro-Palestine crowd can put on a better face and not look like cringe college kids.

The youth are the enemy of the people.

Millennials and Zoomers will save this country from the greed, austerity and imperialism of their elders.

No. The successful ones who rise to the top will use greed, austerity, and imperialism to get there, and will perpetuate the cycle for more generations to come, just like the generations that preceded them. (And this is a good thing!)

I wish I shared your optimism, but this new generation seems obsessed with imposing leftist anti-imperialist ideology on us, destroying the social fabric, and supporting all this Bernie-brained massive government handout programs which will blow up the deficit and cause a debt crisis. But I guess for every pessimist there's an optimist.

"Le wrong generation" but it's the Gilded Age and children working in coal mines and dying at 40.

So much cringe.

[Comrade Funk]

Even on the right that viewpoint is fading out and pretty much exclusive to boomers. No one under age 50 is saying the "greatest ally" stuff anymore. Even Matt Walsh is starting to turn his wheels and Charlie Kirk is slowly pivoting. (These were people who were hardcore zionists 2 years ago). Widespread support for Israel has <5 years left and it could flip even quicker if the pro-Palestine crowd can put on a better face and not look like cringe college kids.

The youth are the enemy of the people.

Millennials and Zoomers will save this country from the greed, austerity and imperialism of their elders.

No. The successful ones who rise to the top will use greed, austerity, and imperialism to get there, and will perpetuate the cycle for more generations to come, just like the generations that preceded them. (And this is a good thing!)

I wish I shared your optimism, but this new generation seems obsessed with imposing leftist anti-imperialist ideology on us, destroying the social fabric, and supporting all this Bernie-brained massive government handout programs which will blow up the deficit and cause a debt crisis. But I guess for every pessimist there's an optimist.

"Le wrong generation" but it's the Gilded Age and children working in coal mines and dying at 40.

So much cringe.

He's either a troll (highly suspected going way back) or a legit sociopath.

[Not Me, Us]

Israel has nobody to blame but themselves for everyone hating them. If they didn’t make it their sole goal in life to wantonly slaughter innocent civilians, people would probably like them more. Nonetheless, it’s encouraging to see the next generation of the left and to a lesser extent the right realizing we are in an abusive relationship with an apartheid state, and hopefully Israel will be relegated to an international pariah in the next few decades.

[Sir Mohamed]

If only we elected her. 😢

I'd prefer an actual prez with a set of moral values and principles rather than a spineless coward and enabler.

[Vosem]

Israel has nobody to blame but themselves for everyone hating them. If they didn’t make it their sole goal in life to wantonly slaughter innocent civilians, people would probably like them more. Nonetheless, it’s encouraging to see the next generation of the left and to a lesser extent the right realizing we are in an abusive relationship with an apartheid state, and hopefully Israel will be relegated to an international pariah in the next few decades.

But everyone loves them! Countries keep electing leaders on promises to support their military campaign! Literal religions that say the state is sacred keep spreading!

[CheapDollarEra?]

Outside those "predictions", evangelicals like Israel as they as a self-righteous group (we love the Holy Land, we are lest antisemitic).
For a latino evangelicals is easy to correlate Hamas and company to drug cartels or terror groups like Shining Path.
We are talking about people that know more about the Old Testament than about international news and are not on the political sides of social media.

Israel has nobody to blame but themselves for everyone hating them. If they didn’t make it their sole goal in life to wantonly slaughter innocent civilians, people would probably like them more. Nonetheless, it’s encouraging to see the next generation of the left and to a lesser extent the right realizing we are in an abusive relationship with an apartheid state, and hopefully Israel will be relegated to an international pariah in the next few decades.

The people that can access some random "safe space" is some random college (if those still exist) ain´t everybody. The average people in the Americas DON´T CARE.

[Joseph Cao]

He's either a troll (highly suspected going way back) or a legit sociopath.

I don't believe in screwing over myself because others made bad decisions. You should only look out for yourself, it will go a long way
…
It's important to have your own priorities in life and to know what is good for you. Fundamentally, you should look out for yourself first, and if you make bad decisions out of some misguided idea of morals or altruism, then I don't really feel bad for you. You can choose to be stupid and altruistic, don't expect sympathy from me then.