Trump considering quasi-sovereign cities in U.S. for things like “genetic engineered humans only”
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« Reply #50 on: March 08, 2025, 06:21:18 PM »

The autistic sci-fi nerds who have bought their way into Trump's closest circle of influence are essentially committing elder abuse against him.  A 78-year old property developer and former game show host has absolutely no clue about cryptocurrency or AI or whatever the hell this new thing is, but give him enough money and compliments and he'll endorse whatever insane idea you feed him.

In all seriousness IDK why red avs are freaking out about this. "Genetically engineered humans"? What, like the Jem'Hadar from Star Trek? The worst thing that's going to happen here is these manchildren burning through a bunch of federal money trying and failing to make their own people in test tubes.

Personally, I find this entire thing quite funny, but I do think the general issue of genome editing is going to be a big deal in the future, and I wouldn't be surprised, if not expect that there will be significant inequality and conflict surrounding it. I really dread the idea of what a century of near-exponential AI-assisted advancement in genetic engineering will deliver to the rich and powerful of human civilization.


What’s interesting is that we will have to at least be able to repair DNA damage in order to explore past Mars and it might even be needed for that. There’s a lot of stellar and interstellar radiation out there. Also, with increased inequality, fertility has declined, as fertility has declined, there will be more  people living their last 20 or 30 years of life. Having effective treatments to age related disabilities will be important to keep healthcare and social systems solvent until changes in the environment, engineering capacity, or society make the fertility rate go back into the black. It might even in itself improve the fertility rate because people will still be able to do everything they want to do when they have the money, instead of people only trying to have families when the necessary parts are already starting to fail.

We can’t simply have a large part of our population that is sick or disabled and there being nothing we can really do. None of this even scratches the surface of being able to make lives for disabilities better.

So yes. There’s definitely a need for a lot of research to go into this field, but we don’t want people trying to clone themselves or think that they can “live forever”. Or whatever weird sh**t they try to do to make the needs of people who aren’t like them irrelevant to them.

That’s the other problem with all of this inequality. It eventually gets us to the point where the people who end up with everything don’t need any other people.


Developing and Regulating these technologies is a must do.
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« Reply #51 on: March 08, 2025, 08:20:09 PM »
« Edited: March 08, 2025, 08:23:48 PM by Virginiá »

Yeah.... again, anyone treating this dumb crap as some novel idea needs to read up on the ideas of eugenicists since the time of the long 19th century. The sci-fi stuff was often inspired by those dystopian ideas - it wasn't supposed to be a blueprint, but morons like Yarvin and Musk are too brain-dead to understand the nuance.

The series Altered Carbon from Netflix touches on some of this, and while obviously it has its more fantastical elements, the general theme of rich people literally living forever and essentially becoming untouchable rulers of society, with the ability to enhance their bodies at will, is 100% the direction we're heading in, and I don't think people are prepared for what that kind of society we will eventually evolve into without radical changes. Even if we're unlikely to experience the entire problem ourselves, it doesn't make it any less serious.

We can't even get a modicum of safeguards mandated for AI in this country, and that's happening right now. Eventually throwing ridiculously powerful gene editing technology into the existing world's already unfair social hierarchy is going to supercharge inequality and class strife.

So yes. There’s definitely a need for a lot of research to go into this field, but we don’t want people trying to clone themselves or think that they can “live forever”. Or whatever weird sh**t they try to do to make the needs of people who aren’t like them irrelevant to them.

That's the sad part. Technology can do so much good for society and its people, but it can also completely wreck it. And the people who would be most likely to wreck it also happen to be the most powerful.
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« Reply #52 on: March 08, 2025, 08:35:31 PM »

There absolutely should be some more research into combatting aging and extending life. This has been a very long held, strong belief of mine. But the troglodytes who’ve managed to get rich today are pretty obviously the types who would do everything they can to make sure that normal people can’t get any benefits from it.

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« Reply #53 on: March 09, 2025, 03:51:22 PM »

There absolutely should be some more research into combatting aging and extending life.

Do you need a cyberpunk city, free from many state/federal laws and regulations, to do this? I'd say progress is being made too.
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