Trump considering quasi-sovereign cities in U.S. for things like “genetic engineered humans only”

[Blue3]

https://www.wired.com/story/startup-nations-donald-trump-legislation

Several groups representing “startup nations”—tech hubs exempt from the taxes and regulations that apply to the countries where they are located—are drafting Congressional legislation to create “freedom cities” in the US that would be similarly free from certain federal laws, WIRED has learned.

According to interviews and presentations viewed by WIRED, the goal of these cities would be to have places where anti-aging clinical trials, nuclear reactor startups, and building construction can proceed without having to get prior approval from agencies like the Food and Drug Administration, the Nuclear Regulatory Commission, and the Environmental Protection Agency.

In 2023, Trump floated the idea of creating 10 freedom cities. Now, Goff says that Próspera’s vision is to create “not just 10, but as many as the market can handle.” They hope to have drafted legislation ready by the end of the year.

“The energy in DC is absolutely electric,” Goff says. “You can tell in meetings with the people involved that they have the mandate to do some of the more hyperbolic, verbose things Trump has mentioned.”

But Gil Duran, a former political consultant and author of the Substack newsletter Nerd Reich, warns that building new cities from scratch could have negative consequences. “To be outside of the law and above the law, what does that mean for the rest of the country?” he asks. “It seems like you're going to start hollowing out other places in order to have these places where the rules are suspended and don't apply anymore to certain people.”

American Dynamism

One company that stands to benefit from the rise of freedom cities is Minicircle, a longevity biotech company focused on developing gene therapies to extend human lifespans. The company’s seed funding came from Thiel and OpenAI CEO Sam Altman, and it currently has offices in both Austin, Texas, and Próspera. Minicircle cofounder Mac Davis is also working with the Frontier Foundation.

Davis says that Minicircle’s gene therapy clinical trial on the protein follistatin—which he claims increases muscle mass without side effects, and also has life-extending benefits in mice—was only possible in Próspera, but noted he’d like to see that change.

“I'd like a ‘longevity city’ where everyone and their dog is on gene therapy,” Davis says.

Goff tells WIRED that he thinks freedom cities could also be used as manufacturing hubs and shipbuilding ports, allowing builders to bypass the environmental review process.

An organization called “Nerd Reich” saying this could be inhumane. It’s like these guys really want cyberpunk and Gattaca/BraveNewWorld dystopias to come true. They were meant to be warnings, not blueprints…

[You are responsible]

This is basically following the ideas put forward by Curtis Yarvin who has been cited as a main ideological influence on JD Vance and Elon Musk.

[Averroës]

People are all "YIMBY" and "IN THIS HOUSE, no human is illegal" until the anarcho-capitalist human-animal hybrids want a place to call their own.

[Doomer]

What does this even mean

[Burke Bro]

Make feudalism great again!

[Virginiá]

Isn't this basically how WW3 started in Star Trek

[Vosem]

Good to hear, maybe this administration will be a success after all!

People are all "YIMBY" and "IN THIS HOUSE, no human is illegal" until the anarcho-capitalist human-animal hybrids want a place to call their own.

In this house, no human is illegal!

[Doomer]

Isn't this basically how WW3 started in Star Trek

Basically, yes.

See: Khan Noonien Singh.

I think technically the Eugenics War (involving genetically engineered humans) happened first, followed by the Second American Civil War, and then World War III. But there's been some retconning so I could be off in the order, or they may all be part of the same war.

Actually, January 6 and election denialism (and in turn, Donald Trump) is cited in Star Trek canon as having some responsibility for the Second Civil War.

Oh, and there was Colonel Green, who was another xenophobe, racist, Hitler-wannabe who played a part in that era.

[Not Me, Us]

Isn't this basically how WW3 started in Star Trek

Basically, yes.

See: Khan Noonien Singh.

I think technically the Eugenics War (involving genetically engineered humans) happened first, followed by the Second American Civil War, and then World War III. But there's been some retconning so I could be off in the order, or they may all be part of the same war.

Actually, January 6 and election denialism (and in turn, Donald Trump) is cited in Star Trek canon as having some responsibility for the Second Civil War.

I think (as of Strange New Worlds canon due to some Romulan time travel shenanigans) there was the second Civil War, which led to the Eugenics War with Khan's augments vs. regular humans, which led to WW3. Unfortunately I don't think the Vulcans are coming to bail us out this time.

[Doomer]

Isn't this basically how WW3 started in Star Trek

Basically, yes.

See: Khan Noonien Singh.

I think technically the Eugenics War (involving genetically engineered humans) happened first, followed by the Second American Civil War, and then World War III. But there's been some retconning so I could be off in the order, or they may all be part of the same war.

Actually, January 6 and election denialism (and in turn, Donald Trump) is cited in Star Trek canon as having some responsibility for the Second Civil War.

I think (as of Strange New Worlds canon due to some Romulan time travel shenanigans) there was the second Civil War, which led to the Eugenics War, which led to WW3. Unfortunately I don't think the Vulcans are coming to bail us out this time.

I think you're right on the order, now that I'm reading up on it.

I know that canon originally had the Eugenics War in the 1990s, but that's been pushed way back to sometime in our current future due to interference with the timeline from the Temporal Cold War or some such.

[Bacon King]

Isn't this basically how WW3 started in Star Trek

originally no the Eugenics Wars happened in the 1990s and the Third World War happened in the 2050s but by the time of the irl 90s when obviously they had to retcon it, later series like Voyager had timeline shenanigans showing earth in then present day 1990s much like it was in our reality except a Silicon Valkey tech billionaire got rich salvaging technology from a 24th century shuttlecraft that had crashedlanded - obviously no Eugenics Wars. Around the same time an episode of Deep Space Nine portrayed the Bell Riots of 2024 when they time traveled from the future and accidentally took part in a riot in San Francisco's ghetto for the homeless and unemployed, with Captain Sisco inadvertently replacing the true leader Gabriel on account of accidentally getting him killed.

At the time the consensus in the fandom was basically "the Eugenics Wars must have been a part of the wider WW3 or another name for it"

I haven't watched new Trek much but apparently more recent series have placed the Bell Riots in a broader calamity known as the Second Civil War featuring guys wearing MAGA hats claiming the 2020 election was rigged (??) and that this happened AFTER the Eugenics Wars (??) and directly led to WW3 starting in the late 2020s that lasted for three decades (??) no idea if it's still canonically a nuclear war but it was originally

apologies for linking to a Fandom site but like Wookiepedia with star wars, Memory Alpha is really the only good wiki for the setting

https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Eugenics_Wars
https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Second_Civil_War
https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/World_War_III

edit: based on previous responses my old Trek lore is clearly more outdated than I thought and apparently briefly checking the fan wiki is not enough to make up for my missing knowledge so I defer to the two preceding posters

[oldtimer]

This is basically following the ideas put forward by Curtis Yarvin who has been cited as a main ideological influence on JD Vance and Elon Musk.

It's like the other side of the Green New Deal coin, it has all the hallmarks of a disaster.

Who's going to remind them that people vote to restrain madness, not to expand it in other directions ?

[Doomer]

Isn't this basically how WW3 started in Star Trek

originally no the Eugenics Wars happened in the 1990s and the Third World War happened in the 2050s but by the time of the irl 90s when obviously they had to retcon it, later series like Voyager had timeline shenanigans showing earth in then present day 1990s much like it was in our reality except a Silicon Valkey tech billionaire got rich salvaging technology from a 24th century shuttlecraft that had crashedlanded - obviously no Eugenics Wars. Around the same time an episode of Deep Space Nine portrayed the Bell Riots of 2024 when they time traveled from the future and accidentally took part in a riot in San Francisco's ghetto for the homeless and unemployed, with Captain Sisco inadvertently replacing the true leader Art Bell on account of accidentally getting him killed.

At the time the consensus in the fandom was basically "the Eugenics Wars must have been a part of the wider WW3 or another name for it"

I haven't watched new Trek much but apparently more recent series have placed the Bell Riots in a broader calamity known as the Second Civil War featuring guys wearing MAGA hats claiming the 2020 election was rigged (??) and that this happened AFTER the Eugenics Wars (??) and directly led to WW3 starting in the late 2020s that lasted for three decades (??) no idea if it's still canonically a nuclear war but it was originally

apologies for linking to a Fandom site but like Wookiepedia with star wars, Memory Alpha is really the only good wiki for the setting

https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Eugenics_Wars
https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Second_Civil_War
https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/World_War_III

Pretty sure the Bell Riots weren't touched on in new Trek.

Jan 6 absolute was though.

[K.W.R.A.E. 8647]

Yes, this was the endgame. This was the plan of all the billionaire parasites who latched themselves onto him.

Trump voters turned off their brains and voted for a sundowning corrupt felon because they liked his double handjob dance.

They and everyone around them are going to get well and truly f**ked by what they enabled. Good job.

[Bacon King]

Unfortunately I don't think the Vulcans are coming to bail us out this time.

We are clearly in the mirror universe timeline where Zephram Cochrane begins first contact by blasting the Vulcans with a shotgun to steal their vessel

seriously in our reality there's no way a bunch of people living off the grid in rural Montana with access to a refurbished ICBM can possibly be up to ANY good

edit: I will stop derailing the thread now lol

[Crumpets]

Why would Harris/Bernie/Hillary/AOC/Schumer do this?

[Jumped off the American Sinking Ship]

People are all "YIMBY" and "IN THIS HOUSE, no human is illegal" until the anarcho-capitalist human-animal hybrids want a place to call their own.

these guys aren't based enough to create the furrethnostate
/j

[Wrong about 2024 Ghost]

"Conservatives".

(mad laughter)

Reminder # 584309584309543 that Republicans are not good faith participants in American government and society, but rather a radical, violent, revolutionary cult.

Republicans are not conservatives! Anywhere but the United States of America the idea of a party on the radical far-right who want to overturn the entire existing social and governmental order (with a side-helping of heretical Christian theocracy) calling themselves "conservatives" would be laughed out of the room.

[K.W.R.A.E. 8647]

People are all "YIMBY" and "IN THIS HOUSE, no human is illegal" until the anarcho-capitalist human-animal hybrids want a place to call their own.

these guys aren't based enough to create the furrethnostate
/j

Uh, umm, hmm.

[Robert California]

So how does this square with the cottage core, organic produce, reject modernity aesthetic of modern right-wing influencerdom?

[Crazy Steve]

Isn't this basically how WW3 started in Star Trek

Kinda similar, but the Bell Riots didn't happen last year (unless you think the Gaza protests count as Bell Riots. Which you shouldn't: the Star Trek Bell Riots were more of a social injustice/homelessness/segregation uprising in the US and Gaza is Gaza). Also, the Eugenics Wars in Star Trek took place in the 1990s, globally. And it didn't happen. Unless you count Rwanda. But this was a genocide by black people against other black people, not by self-proclaimed genetically engineered  superhumans against perceived low-life humans as in Star Trek.

[GAinDC]

Yes, this was the endgame. This was the plan of all the billionaire parasites who latched themselves onto him.

Trump voters turned off their brains and voted for a sundowning corrupt felon because they liked his double handjob dance.

They and everyone around them are going to get well and truly f**ked by what they enabled. Good job.

I never thought of his dance as looking like a double handjob but you’re so right 🤣

[HisGrace]

Someone in the administration really needs to limit Trump's access to science fiction or soon we'll be burning through billions of dollars in federal money to see if we can build the Flux Capacitor.

[HagridOfTheDeep]

This is how you get the districts from Hunger Games.

[Mr. Illini]

"These people are weird" - Tim Walz