Gavin Newsom: Trans athletes playing in women’s sports ‘deeply unfair’
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« on: March 06, 2025, 05:40:54 PM »

https://thehill.com/homenews/lgbtq/5180521-newsom-trans-athletes-womens-sports/

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The governor announced the new podcast venture last month, promising frank conversations with some of the “biggest leaders and architects in the MAGA movement.” The first episode, which aired Thursday, saw Newsom engage in a friendly back-and-forth with Kirk, at one point asking him what advice he had for the Democratic Party.

“Get better ideas, governor,” Kirk responded. “You, right now, should come out and be like, ‘You know what? The young man who’s about to win the state championship in the long jump in female sports — that shouldn’t happen.’ You, as the governor, should step out and say, ‘No.’”

Kirk was referencing a transgender high school student’s victory in a girls’ triple jump event in California last month. He pressed Newsom to speak out against the student’s participation.

“I think it’s an issue of fairness; I completely agree with you on that,” Newsom said. “It’s an issue of fairness. It’s deeply unfair.”

I'm glad Democrats are finally started to point out how unfair trans women playing women sports is. I still think Newsom is a terrible choice for 2028 because California is viewed negatively by the rest of the nation.

Hope more Democrats do the same. And hopefully, California changes their laws.
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« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2025, 05:42:11 PM »

Yeah, he's not getting my support in 2028, which sucks because he was the one i liked the most.

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« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2025, 05:42:24 PM »

IMPEACH HIM NOW !!!
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« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2025, 05:42:53 PM »

Newsom is one slick mf. I don't particularly like him but he could be formidable in '28 if he plays his cards right despite all the negativity people associate with California politics.
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« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2025, 05:44:20 PM »

Yeah, he's not getting my support in 2028, which sucks because he was the one i liked the most.



You're a joke.
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« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2025, 05:45:04 PM »
« Edited: March 08, 2025, 12:09:45 AM by Rep Green is correct »

Why even engage with a non-problem? This is what happens when you treat people like Charlie Kirk as serious journalists.
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« Reply #6 on: March 06, 2025, 05:45:41 PM »

Kirk is literally screwing the pastor of an extremist church so he's a hypocrite on such issue. And the same far right pastor has propositioned me more than once so it goes to show how twisted these people are.
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« Reply #7 on: March 06, 2025, 05:46:44 PM »

what a "progressive". Not like he wasn't already a fake one to begin with considering some of the things he's done as gov, but I don't think you can go onto a podcast with tiny face Kirk and say this sort of thing, and expect people who are considering supporting you to like it.
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« Reply #8 on: March 06, 2025, 05:47:49 PM »

Why are Dems engaging with this fake issue? It's always gonna be a trap
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« Reply #9 on: March 06, 2025, 05:48:07 PM »

Wow Gavin Newsom would really hate CA Governor Gavin Newsom maybe he should run to replace him.

What they are the same person?

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« Reply #10 on: March 06, 2025, 05:52:37 PM »

There's really nothing to say that we all haven't said repeatedly on a bunch of threads, but Democrats are 40 or more points underwater on this issue which is extremely important to millions of Americans (even though most of those don't actually care about women's sports).

Over the last couple months, I've started suspecting this issue single handedly cost Harris the 2024 election, which is incredibly frustrating given that she never even campaigned on it. I don't think the typical red avatar poster here really grasps how fervent and adamant the 70% of Americans who agree with Newsom are.
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« Reply #11 on: March 06, 2025, 05:52:56 PM »
« Edited: March 08, 2025, 12:10:31 AM by Rep Green is correct »

Why even engage with a non-problem? This is what happens when you treat people like Charlie Kirk as serious journalists.
I don't think its a major problem, more like an issue that needs to be put away with some compromise bill. Like not allowing trans women who went through male puberty but allowing those who didn't go through male puberty.

Regardless how serious of an issue it actually is, it is considered a big deal to millions of Americans. Yes, even swing voters. So Democrats need to fight the narrative they are ok destroying women sports, even if they think its a non-problem.

This isn't going away.
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« Reply #12 on: March 06, 2025, 05:53:33 PM »

Why are Dems engaging with this fake issue? It's always gonna be a trap

Dems can make this issue go away whenever they want. Kids getting face tattoos is not an issues because everyone answers it the same way. "Of Course not."
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« Reply #13 on: March 06, 2025, 05:53:50 PM »

There's really nothing to say that we all haven't said repeatedly on a bunch of threads, but Democrats are 40 or more points underwater on this issue which is extremely important to millions of Americans (even though most of those don't actually care about women's sports).

Over the last couple months, I've started suspecting this issue single handedly cost Harris the 2024 election, which is incredibly frustrating given that she never even campaigned on it. I don't think the typical red avatar poster here really grasps how fervent and adamant the 70% of Americans who agree with Newsom are.
Exactly! Perfectly said. If only other red avis would agree
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« Reply #14 on: March 06, 2025, 05:54:14 PM »

Newsom is one slick mf. I don't particularly like him but he could be formidable in '28 if he plays his cards right despite all the negativity people associate with California politics.

You may be right. I will never vote for him, and my opinion of him was low enough this does not change it, but winery and all, he might go somewhere in a devastated post-Trump US where the America First types cling to Trump and the billionaires who didn't go all in on the looting want someone to make sure they their money can still be spent. (As opposed to an actual leftist candidate who would promise to end billionaires.)
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« Reply #15 on: March 06, 2025, 05:55:12 PM »

First it's banning transgender athletes, then it's banning transgender people period. Then it's criminalizing and legalizing conversion rape. Then it's gas ovens. This whole thing is only going to lead to violence that the far right will deny 50 years from now.
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« Reply #16 on: March 06, 2025, 05:55:29 PM »

Just a reminder that, when Charlie Kirk was asked about increased LGBT suicide rates as a result of anti-LGBT legislation and rhetoric, he said they needed to "toughen up"... and said "anti-Christian discrimination" was worse.
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« Reply #17 on: March 06, 2025, 05:56:25 PM »

Love him or hate him, he's spitting straight facts.

I get wanting to punt this particular part of The Transgender Question™, but, like, HRT is pretty damn effective, even if the Cis like to pretend otherwise. And of course, there's the obvious point that they're not gonna stop here, so turning a big dial that says "Transphobia" on it and constantly looking back at the audience for approval like a contestant on The Price is Right just tells me that trans people are expendable.
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« Reply #18 on: March 06, 2025, 05:57:26 PM »

There's really nothing to say that we all haven't said repeatedly on a bunch of threads, but Democrats are 40 or more points underwater on this issue which is extremely important to millions of Americans (even though most of those don't actually care about women's sports).

Over the last couple months, I've started suspecting this issue single handedly cost Harris the 2024 election, which is incredibly frustrating given that she never even campaigned on it. I don't think the typical red avatar poster here really grasps how fervent and adamant the 70% of Americans who agree with Newsom are.

Again unfortunately for her videos from her running for election in 2020 exist.  
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« Reply #19 on: March 06, 2025, 05:58:26 PM »

First it's banning transgender athletes, then it's banning transgender people period. Then it's criminalizing and legalizing conversion rape. Then it's gas ovens. This whole thing is only going to lead to violence that the far right will deny 50 years from now.
I'm sorry, but this post is extremely ridiculous and incredibly insulting to the millions of humans who actually died in ovens 70 years ago. Shame on you.

No one thinks Gavin Newsom wants to ban trans people period.
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« Reply #20 on: March 06, 2025, 05:59:39 PM »

First it's banning transgender athletes, then it's banning transgender people period. Then it's criminalizing and legalizing conversion rape. Then it's gas ovens. This whole thing is only going to lead to violence that the far right will deny 50 years from now.

For a lot of Republicans yes, they do want to go that far. But there are also millions of Americans who may have voted for Obama or Clinton who voted Trump in 2024 with this being one of their top issues, who only want to ban them from sports but not go down that road.

And yet thanks to their votes for Trump, we are headed down that road. I would rather ask 40 high schoolers to "take one for the team" and let their athletic dreams go in order to preserve the country for all LGBT Americans, and really all Americans as a whole. Given the state of our country today, I wish Biden and Harris had asked that of them.
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« Reply #21 on: March 06, 2025, 06:01:18 PM »

First it's banning transgender athletes, then it's banning transgender people period. Then it's criminalizing and legalizing conversion rape. Then it's gas ovens. This whole thing is only going to lead to violence that the far right will deny 50 years from now.
I'm sorry, but this post is extremely ridiculous and incredibly insulting to the millions of humans who actually died in ovens 70 years ago. Shame on you.

No one thinks Gavin Newsom wants to ban trans people period.

Oh, quit the pearl clutching. In the 30s you would have been silent on Nazi Germany. You have an unhealthy obsession with transgender people.
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« Reply #22 on: March 06, 2025, 06:02:00 PM »

Pandering usually works better if you pander to people who could vote for you, instead of pandering to people who will never vote for you while pissing off people who might

The best arguments against Newsom all hammer him on authenticity. That stuff probably blends well with the things that people already believe about California.
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« Reply #23 on: March 06, 2025, 06:02:20 PM »

First it's banning transgender athletes, then it's banning transgender people period. Then it's criminalizing and legalizing conversion rape. Then it's gas ovens. This whole thing is only going to lead to violence that the far right will deny 50 years from now.
I'm sorry, but this post is extremely ridiculous and incredibly insulting to the millions of humans who actually died in ovens 70 years ago. Shame on you.

No one thinks Gavin Newsom wants to ban trans people period.

Oh, quit the pearl clutching. In the 30s you would have been silent on Nazi Germany. You have an unhealthy obsession with transgender people.
I would have been killed in Nazi Germany so...
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« Reply #24 on: March 06, 2025, 06:02:50 PM »

Newsom is one slick mf. I don't particularly like him but he could be formidable in '28 if he plays his cards right despite all the negativity people associate with California politics.

If he was governor of anywhere other than California he would be on track for an easy 2028 win, both primary and general.
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