Gallup - 46% of Americans sympathize more with Israel than Palestine, lowest in at least 25 years
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« on: March 06, 2025, 02:22:14 PM »

https://news.gallup.com/poll/657404/less-half-sympathetic-toward-israelis.aspx

18-34s sympathize more with Palestine 48-29.
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« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2025, 02:22:58 PM »

Israel is fighting this war for the west as well and everyone need to realize that .
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« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2025, 02:23:41 PM »

Israel is fighting this war for the west as well and everyone need to realize that .

Please. They are fighting only for themselves. They are not part of the West in any way.
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« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2025, 02:25:19 PM »

Israel is fighting this war for the west as well and everyone need to realize that .

What's "the west" mean in this context?
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« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2025, 02:26:18 PM »

Israel is fighting this war for the west as well and everyone need to realize that .

Wish our government realized that about Ukraine
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« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2025, 02:27:37 PM »
« Edited: March 06, 2025, 05:46:48 PM by Rep Green is correct »

Israel is fighting this war for the west as well and everyone need to realize that .

Please. They are fighting only for themselves. They are not part of the West in any way.

Jihadists want to create another caliphate and Israel is in their way but they have goals far larger than just taking Israel .

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« Reply #6 on: March 06, 2025, 02:28:04 PM »

Israel is fighting this war for the west as well and everyone need to realize that .

What's "the west" mean in this context?

The US , Canada  and Western Europe
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« Reply #7 on: March 06, 2025, 02:33:25 PM »
« Edited: March 06, 2025, 05:47:17 PM by Rep Green is correct »

Israel is fighting this war for the west as well and everyone need to realize that .

Please. They are fighting only for themselves. They are not part of the West in any way.

Jihadists want to create another caliphate and Israel is in their way but they have goals far larger than just taking Israel .


You’re so freaking Islamaphobic
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« Reply #8 on: March 06, 2025, 02:34:55 PM »

Israel is fighting this war for the west as well and everyone need to realize that .

What's "the west" mean in this context?

In this context West mean white and Brown/Black mean everywhere else.
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« Reply #9 on: March 06, 2025, 02:34:57 PM »
« Edited: March 06, 2025, 05:49:27 PM by Rep Green is correct »

Israel is fighting this war for the west as well and everyone need to realize that .

Please. They are fighting only for themselves. They are not part of the West in any way.

Jihadists want to create another caliphate and Israel is in their way but they have goals far larger than just taking Israel .


You’re so freaking Islamaphobic

Muslim and Jihadists isn't the same thing.
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« Reply #10 on: March 06, 2025, 02:34:59 PM »

Israel is fighting this war for the west as well and everyone need to realize that .

What's "the west" mean in this context?
The US , Canada  and Western Europe

 The same US that is currently alienating Canada and Western Europe? Are you referring to Netanyahu, who clearly wanted Trump in office, the same Trump who’s wrecking our global relationships? If this is a “War for the West”, then they’re not doing a very good job
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« Reply #11 on: March 06, 2025, 02:36:25 PM »

just wait around a bit, there is a segment of the Palestinian population that will always guarantee Israel's numbers will never get that low
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« Reply #12 on: March 06, 2025, 02:38:53 PM »

just wait around a bit, there is a segment of the Palestinian population that will always guarantee Israel's numbers will never get that low

They need a MLK/Mandela figure so badely but I know it will never happen.
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« Reply #13 on: March 06, 2025, 02:47:10 PM »

Israel is fighting this war for the west as well and everyone need to realize that .

Butchering civilians and cutting off aid in the process.
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« Reply #14 on: March 06, 2025, 02:50:00 PM »
« Edited: March 06, 2025, 03:15:00 PM by President Johnson »

Well, some of it is earned due to the conduct of the war. However, Palestinans shouldn't all be thrown into the same category as Hamas.
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« Reply #15 on: March 06, 2025, 02:54:41 PM »

just wait around a bit, there is a segment of the Palestinian population that will always guarantee Israel's numbers will never get that low

They need a MLK/Mandela figure so badely but I know it will never happen.

The closest they had was Arafat, but Bibi had the Israeli PM killed in order to stop the peace process.

More people need to know how close we were to peace before the far-right on both sides destroyed it.
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« Reply #16 on: March 06, 2025, 02:56:24 PM »

Palestinians are a stateless people left permantly subjected to an apartheid occupation, and still people act like it's a mystery why they would have in it in for Israel?
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« Reply #17 on: March 06, 2025, 03:03:00 PM »

just wait around a bit, there is a segment of the Palestinian population that will always guarantee Israel's numbers will never get that low


Not if Netanyahu get rid of them all.
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« Reply #18 on: March 06, 2025, 03:09:37 PM »

just wait around a bit, there is a segment of the Palestinian population that will always guarantee Israel's numbers will never get that low


Not if Netanyahu get rid of them all.
as we're often told, getting rid of them makes more
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« Reply #19 on: March 06, 2025, 03:13:47 PM »

The closest they had was Arafat, but Bibi had the Israeli PM killed in order to stop the peace process.
Arafat was a Trump level conman (actually Arafat was way smarter than Trump, but still a conman)
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« Reply #20 on: March 06, 2025, 03:17:06 PM »

The closest they had was Arafat, but Bibi had the Israeli PM killed in order to stop the peace process.
Arafat was a Trump level conman (actually Arafat was way smarter than Trump, but still a conman)

Not perfect, sure, but the fact he was hated by both Hamas and the Likudniks (who had and still have a symbiotic relationship) means he was always walking an impossible tightrope.
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« Reply #21 on: March 06, 2025, 03:42:01 PM »
« Edited: March 07, 2025, 12:34:20 PM by certified hummus supporter 🇵🇸🤝🇺🇸🤝🇺🇦 »

Israel is fighting this war for the west as well and everyone need to realize that .

Please. They are fighting only for themselves. They are not part of the West in any way.

Jihadists want to create another caliphate and Israel is in their way but they have goals far larger than just taking Israel .

This is a problem because of what, exactly?

The institution of the Caliphate was separated from actual genuine political power during the reign of the later Abbasids, and further reinforced as a temporal figurehead during the Abbasid exile in Egypt under the Mamluks after the Mongol annihilation of their realm in Iraq.

It wasn't until much later under the reign of the later Ottoman Sultans, particularly Abdulhamid II, that the position of the being the the rightful Caliphs of Islam, well Sunni Islam, was actually being wielded for political purposes to bolster Ottoman international prestige and internal cohesion amongst their Muslim subjects. And even with Mehmed V's declaration of jihad in 1915, the last legitimate call for jihad, the Sultan-Caliph's power was all but relegated to being merely a puppet figurehead under the C.U.P. dictatorship while the call for jihad against the Entente basically went unheeded outside the empire itself.

And with the Ottoman defeat, partition, and downfall, following the Great War. Resulting with Mehmed VI being deposed, Abdulmejid II being instated as the final Ottoman Caliph, his own later deposition by the Kemalists, and the brief attempt by the Hashemite Sharif to claim the mantle for his own self. The institution of the Caliphate was basically relegated to being merely temporal figureheads, akin to the Papacy.

So all the fear-mongering about the future restoration of this institution isn't about fears about extremism or whatever. No, it's about keeping Muslims down, and divided. And even if it were to be restored, it wouldn't be something of one, continuous, sprawling state akin to the Umayyads waging campaigns of conquest to restore al-Andalus or whatever.
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« Reply #22 on: March 06, 2025, 04:19:03 PM »

I sympathize with all the people in the Middle East, especially most of all the innocent children that didn't ask to be brought into these wars.

As for the people in power in these countries, I don't know enough to say but they all sound dominated by a fundamentalist ideology.

I can't ever see a peaceful Middle East without first people learning to coexist with each other's religious and cultural ways of life - and maybe that's the problem, that it's not realistic for that to happen.
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« Reply #23 on: March 06, 2025, 04:21:45 PM »

I do wonder what would have happened if Sharon had lived. He seemed to have started to change near the end of his life and was starting to drive the settlers out of Palestinian areas. If that had continued I don’t think Hamas would have been able to take over like it had in Gaza.
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« Reply #24 on: March 06, 2025, 04:41:14 PM »

The closest they had was Arafat, but Bibi had the Israeli PM killed in order to stop the peace process.
Arafat was a Trump level conman (actually Arafat was way smarter than Trump, but still a conman)

I’m not sure what Arafat was but I think your description is wrong, he was no Trump-style conman, but neither was he some kind of Mandela or MLK type liberator. He was a revolutionary who if he had won would have turned into just another dictator, a more competent Mugabe.
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