10 democrats join all republicans in voting to censure Al Green

[You are responsible]

With the exception of the SPD, all democratic parties voted for Hitler's Enabling Act.

[darklordoftech]

What did Al Green do?

[Blue3]

Green was censured.  He didn't lose committee assignments.  He wasn't expelled.  He merely had to listen to the charges and some ranting from those who supported the censure.

Johnson pretty much had to seek thls.  Green is a lunatic, but what was worse was the collective behavior of the Democrats present.  Worse for the Democrats, mind you; America will not be thinking about it this week.

It's the symbolism.

I'm also someone who thinks all Democrats should have stood up in that moment. The fact that there were some Democrats willing to join with Republicans over this is so repulsive. You run on Trump being a potential dictator who will blow up our system of government and cut services to Americans, he begins his presidency doing just that, and you agree to censure a protest of it?

[GoTfan]

Green was censured.  He didn't lose committee assignments.  He wasn't expelled.  He merely had to listen to the charges and some ranting from those who supported the censure.

Johnson pretty much had to seek thls.  Green is a lunatic, but what was worse was the collective behavior of the Democrats present.  Worse for the Democrats, mind you; America will not be thinking about it this week.

It's the symbolism.

I'm also someone who thinks all Democrats should have stood up in that moment. The fact that there were some Democrats willing to join with Republicans over this is so repulsive. You run on Trump being a potential dictator who will blow up our system of government and cut services to Americans, he begins his presidency doing just that, and you agree to censure a protest of it?

It's a hard, long lesson to learn, so I'll just skip over most of it: do not engage with Fuzzy. Trump is his God and can never do anything wrong.

[Fuzzy Bear]

Green was censured.  He didn't lose committee assignments.  He wasn't expelled.  He merely had to listen to the charges and some ranting from those who supported the censure.

Johnson pretty much had to seek thls.  Green is a lunatic, but what was worse was the collective behavior of the Democrats present.  Worse for the Democrats, mind you; America will not be thinking about it this week.

It's the symbolism.

I'm also someone who thinks all Democrats should have stood up in that moment. The fact that there were some Democrats willing to join with Republicans over this is so repulsive. You run on Trump being a potential dictator who will blow up our system of government and cut services to Americans, he begins his presidency doing just that, and you agree to censure a protest of it?

Trump's not a potential dictator, but people have talked themselves into that.

[Hindsight was 2020]

Green was censured.  He didn't lose committee assignments.  He wasn't expelled.  He merely had to listen to the charges and some ranting from those who supported the censure.

Johnson pretty much had to seek thls.  Green is a lunatic, but what was worse was the collective behavior of the Democrats present.  Worse for the Democrats, mind you; America will not be thinking about it this week.

It's the symbolism.

I'm also someone who thinks all Democrats should have stood up in that moment. The fact that there were some Democrats willing to join with Republicans over this is so repulsive. You run on Trump being a potential dictator who will blow up our system of government and cut services to Americans, he begins his presidency doing just that, and you agree to censure a protest of it?

Trump's not a potential dictator, but people have talked themselves into that.

Says the person who said they’d support Trump illegally running for a third term

[Don't Tread on Me]

What did Al Green do?

He interrupted Trump's speech by saying that Trump didn't have a mandate to cut medicaid. Pretty tame stuff especially considering that I don't think anything was done when MTG & Boebert kept interrupting Biden.

[For Trump, everything. For immigrants, the law]

Pathetic. With “resistance” to Trump like this, who needs enablers?

[Schumer can go f*** himself!]

Green was censured.  He didn't lose committee assignments.  He wasn't expelled.  He merely had to listen to the charges and some ranting from those who supported the censure.

Johnson pretty much had to seek thls.  Green is a lunatic, but what was worse was the collective behavior of the Democrats present.  Worse for the Democrats, mind you; America will not be thinking about it this week.

It's the symbolism.

I'm also someone who thinks all Democrats should have stood up in that moment. The fact that there were some Democrats willing to join with Republicans over this is so repulsive. You run on Trump being a potential dictator who will blow up our system of government and cut services to Americans, he begins his presidency doing just that, and you agree to censure a protest of it?

Trump's not a potential dictator, but people have talked themselves into that.

Imagine actually believing this

[kwabbit]

I really don't get this. It rarely makes sense to directly attack a member of your own party, let alone one that raised an issue that you have the majoritarian viewpoint on. It's not like he took a stand on police abolition or trans women in women's sports; very few people want Medicaid cut. I know those who voted to censure Green think it will be helpful electorally, but the election is two years away and this helps Trump now.

[K.W.R.A.E. 8647]

Green was censured.  He didn't lose committee assignments.  He wasn't expelled.  He merely had to listen to the charges and some ranting from those who supported the censure.

Johnson pretty much had to seek thls.  Green is a lunatic, but what was worse was the collective behavior of the Democrats present.  Worse for the Democrats, mind you; America will not be thinking about it this week.

It's the symbolism.

I'm also someone who thinks all Democrats should have stood up in that moment. The fact that there were some Democrats willing to join with Republicans over this is so repulsive. You run on Trump being a potential dictator who will blow up our system of government and cut services to Americans, he begins his presidency doing just that, and you agree to censure a protest of it?

Trump's not a potential dictator, but people have talked themselves into that.

Nothing better than someone who demonstrably does not understand history or government feeling confident enough to say something like this in contravention to dozens of people who definitively do (or at least moreso than him.)

I seriously don't get why you chose to become more active when you did. Joy for Trump's supporters was brief and has now been replaced by the hollow, sad defenses of a group who knows they've been scammed and can't bear to face reality.

[LBJer]

Pathetic. With “resistance” to Trump like this, who needs enablers?

As a whole, Democrats have been cowards against Trump from the get go. 

[LBJer]

Just goes to show how Democrats care more about decorum and "respect for the institution" than actually mounting a resistance against a president who routinely disrespects our institutions and shows a lack of decorum merely by being a convicted felon and adjudicated rapist and known Epstein associate and longtime con artist and standing behind the seal of the president to get away with it.

As I said before, Democrats seem to have no concept of "fight fire with fire."  By their "we don't want to do anything that could make us look bad" logic, a country that's invaded shouldn't fight back, the people just let themselves be taken over rather than use violence.  Ridiculous and pathetic.  No one would respect a country or people that behaved that way, and no one is going to respect the Democrats either.

[LBJer]

Green is a lunatic

If Green is a lunatic, what does that make Trump?  And what does that make those Americans who voted for him in 2024 knowing full well what he did during the last two and a half months of his first term?

[Don't Tread on Me]

I really don't get this. It rarely makes sense to directly attack a member of your own party, let alone one that raised an issue that you have the majoritarian viewpoint on. It's not like he took a stand on police abolition or trans women in women's sports; very few people want Medicaid cut. I know those who voted to censure Green think it will be helpful electorally, but the election is two years away and this helps Trump now.

I think that's what it comes down to unless someone had some personal beef with him. It seemed like 2024 spooked a lot of people into thinking that this country is more conservative than it really is which makes it that more unprecedented. For instance,  only 2 GOPers voted to censor Greene when she heckled Biden (and I think you can guess who).

[Wrong about 2024 Ghost]

Green was censured.  He didn't lose committee assignments.  He wasn't expelled.  He merely had to listen to the charges and some ranting from those who supported the censure.

Johnson pretty much had to seek thls.  Green is a lunatic, but what was worse was the collective behavior of the Democrats present.  Worse for the Democrats, mind you; America will not be thinking about it this week.

It's the symbolism.

I'm also someone who thinks all Democrats should have stood up in that moment. The fact that there were some Democrats willing to join with Republicans over this is so repulsive. You run on Trump being a potential dictator who will blow up our system of government and cut services to Americans, he begins his presidency doing just that, and you agree to censure a protest of it?

Trump's not a potential dictator, but people have talked themselves into that.

Technically correct - Trump is not a potential dictator, he is a dictator. He is ineligible for the office he claims, abuses its lawful authority, exceeds its lawful authority, ignores the laws passed by Congress and signed by past Presidents, ignores the courts, and has his lackeys in law enforcement threaten his opponents while he personally threatens our democratic allies.

[MarkD]

What did Al Green do?

He interrupted Trump's speech by saying that Trump didn't have a mandate to cut medicaid. Pretty tame stuff especially considering that I don't think anything was done when MTG & Boebert kept interrupting Biden.

Let's keep emphasizing the hypocrisy of this over and over. Make 'em puke on it!!

[Tokugawa Sexgod Ieyasu]

Pathetic. With “resistance” to Trump like this, who needs enablers?

As a whole, Democrats have been cowards against Trump from the get go. 

Certainly this time around. In his first stint they weren't cowards, but they were stupid and had no idea what did and didn't work against him. Now they have no excuse not to know that, but they're insanely reluctant to do anything about it.

[Doomer]

Green was censured.  He didn't lose committee assignments.  He wasn't expelled.  He merely had to listen to the charges and some ranting from those who supported the censure.

Johnson pretty much had to seek thls.  Green is a lunatic, but what was worse was the collective behavior of the Democrats present.  Worse for the Democrats, mind you; America will not be thinking about it this week.

It's the symbolism.

I'm also someone who thinks all Democrats should have stood up in that moment. The fact that there were some Democrats willing to join with Republicans over this is so repulsive. You run on Trump being a potential dictator who will blow up our system of government and cut services to Americans, he begins his presidency doing just that, and you agree to censure a protest of it?

Trump's not a potential dictator, but people have talked themselves into that.

Says the person who said they’d support Trump illegally running for a third term

Notice he didn't refute that.

If there's one thing boomers hate, it's being confronted with their own truth. So they just ignore and cower away.

[Averroës]

I don't think it's fair to call Democrats cowards. There is clearly a lot of cowardice within the Beltway, much of which comes from groups that have aligned themselves with Democrats. But this seems like an important distinction given how Democrats around the country are reacting.

edit for emphasis: I think it's telling that this vote did not unite every moderate Democrat, or every Democrat from a vulnerable district. Maybe that tells you something about varying political instincts. Or maybe that tells you something about why these people are in Congress, and what they personally hope to get out of the arrangement.

This is particularly noticeable from the "DC blob" groups that have become an increasingly central part of the coalition only over the past decade. Admittedly, the nature of federal politics in the US creates a lot of overlap between these Beltway groups, elected officials, and the professional organs that collectively make up the national party. But the party at-large is much bigger than that, and anyone with a head on their shoulders has to be questioning whether these organs, which in themselves do not make up a large number of votes, are worth the trouble they have created for the party.

I don't say this lightly, because the nature of employment in the US can be extremely harsh. I'm not there in the trenches and I can't know that I would behave differently. Given who we are dealing with, there's also the question of personal legal intimidation, and even potential for violent behavior from Maga thugs. But Democrats should be asking themselves: Why stick our necks out and fight on behalf of people who aren't willing to fight for themselves? I can't help noticing that even the federal employees outside of DC have done more to resist what Trump is doing than those within it. This is particularly true of the higher ranking ones. Trump won by invoking resentment of the metropole, but now he's remaking it in his own image. What an opportunity.

[Horus]

https://twitter.com/Mike_from_PA/status/1898396411395473820?t=1mmj0oyqWncZuF5fUh...

[Trump v. Wong Kim Ark]

I’m rather disappointed by Bera in this situation. He was a good rep for the ten years I had him until redistricting.

[Hindsight was 2020]

https://twitter.com/Mike_from_PA/status/1898396411395473820?t=1mmj0oyqWncZuF5fUh...

Ding ding ding

[Don't Tread on Me]

To add to this, it’s disappointing that no GOPers joined but considering none of the currently serving ones censored Gosar for essentially making a death threat against AOC then it isn't surprising. But I'm particularly disappointed in Fitzpatrick & Chris Smith, the later of whom is one of my favorite GOP reps.

[politicallefty]

We have to tolerate a couple of them (such as Kaptur and MGP), but the others should be targeted for defeat from primary challenges.