SCOTUS rules 5-4 *against* Trump in USAID case

[GALeftist]

Anyways, it's obviously unacceptable that there were four votes to give the power of the purse to the god-emperor, but with where things were at, I thought there were probably five. So I guess that's nice

[K.W.R.A.E. 8647]

Dogsh**t white supremacist podcast host Jack Posobiec and "cat turd" - Philip Buchanan, a fat incel nazi who's too embarrassed to post under his real name - are NOT happy about this.

 

https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:xjc7mkotpenvhh6ffewkdpyn/post/3ljnjn7no4k2a

[Storr]

Dogsh**t white supremacist podcast host Jack Posobiec and "cat turd" - Philip Buchanan, a fat incel nazi who's too embarrassed to post under his real name - are NOT happy about this.

 

https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:xjc7mkotpenvhh6ffewkdpyn/post/3ljnjn7no4k2a

If those two are mad at a Supreme Court decision, you know the court made a correct ruling.

[Stand With Israel. Crush Hamas]

It seems like we're getting a pretty clear look at the blocs on the Supreme Court at the moment.

Sotomayor/Kagan/Brown Jackson - Mainstream Democrats, pretty lockstep liberal but also legally minded. Will make clear-cut cases 9-0.

Roberts/Coney Barrett - Constitutional conservatives, relatively precedent-minded. Not friendly towards social issues like reproductive rights, but also not friendly to executive overreach. Roberts' hesitance to make waves may be rubbing off on Barrett.

Gorsuch - Inscrutable, originalist, semi-libertarian-minded judge who is not friendly towards government spending or reproductive rights but is also very unfriendly towards expansions of federal power. Going to be Trump's worst nightmare on treaties and likely on birthright citizenship.

Thomas/Alito/Kavanaugh - Imperial fascists who view themselves as a Guardian Council of sorts for Trump.

[OSR stands with Israel]

It seems like we're getting a pretty clear look at the blocs on the Supreme Court at the moment.

Sotomayor/Kagan/Brown Jackson - Mainstream Democrats, pretty lockstep liberal but also legally minded. Will make clear-cut cases 9-0.

Roberts/Coney Barrett - Constitutional conservatives, relatively precedent-minded. Not friendly towards social issues like reproductive rights, but also not friendly to executive overreach. Roberts' hesitance to make waves may be rubbing off on Barrett.

Gorsuch - Inscrutable, originalist, semi-libertarian-minded judge who is not friendly towards government spending or reproductive rights but is also very unfriendly towards expansions of federal power. Going to be Trump's worst nightmare on treaties and likely on birthright citizenship.

Thomas/Alito/Kavanaugh - Imperial fascists who view themselves as a Guardian Council of sorts for Trump.

Kavanaugh should not be put in the same bucket as Thomas/Alito , as he ruled that Independent State legislatures is unconstitutional. Kavanaugh is very much as 2000s Cheney style conservative who many forget was a massive proponent of the “unitary executive authority” theory

[Stand With Israel. Crush Hamas]

It seems like we're getting a pretty clear look at the blocs on the Supreme Court at the moment.

Sotomayor/Kagan/Brown Jackson - Mainstream Democrats, pretty lockstep liberal but also legally minded. Will make clear-cut cases 9-0.

Roberts/Coney Barrett - Constitutional conservatives, relatively precedent-minded. Not friendly towards social issues like reproductive rights, but also not friendly to executive overreach. Roberts' hesitance to make waves may be rubbing off on Barrett.

Gorsuch - Inscrutable, originalist, semi-libertarian-minded judge who is not friendly towards government spending or reproductive rights but is also very unfriendly towards expansions of federal power. Going to be Trump's worst nightmare on treaties and likely on birthright citizenship.

Thomas/Alito/Kavanaugh - Imperial fascists who view themselves as a Guardian Council of sorts for Trump.

Kavanaugh should not be put in the same bucket as Thomas/Alito , as he ruled that Independent State legislatures is unconstitutional. Kavanaugh is very much as 2000s Cheney style conservative who many forget was a massive proponent of the “unitary executive authority” theory

None of this really matters if he's willing to give Trump the power to unilaterally subvert acts of Congress.

[AustralianSwingVoter]

Amy Coney Barrett is such an unexpected wild card. I can dig it.

It's generally stunning how the 2 biggest right-wing hacks on the bench aren't Trump appointees.

Never forget that Alito was Bush's backup after first selecting Harriet Miers lmaooo.

I'm not genuinely enraged at this like I am enraged at the Dem senators who confirmed Clarence Thomas or at RBG for not retiring, but in retrospect they really should've just confirmed Miers and not made such a big fuss.

Miers was (hilariously) chosen without input from the Heritage Foundation or Republican senators. She arguably got harsher criticism from Republican senators than Democrats, bc they didn't want to waste a SCOTUS seat on an unqualified unknown! She was never making it out of Committee regardless of what Dems thought, hell Lindsey Graham and Sam Brownback were the two Senators who finally forced her withdrawal by requesting confidential executive memoranda.
Looking back it does seem so Trumpian, meanwhile in comparison Trump has been remarkably constrained by the Heritage Foundation with his judicial picks.

[OSR stands with Israel]

It seems like we're getting a pretty clear look at the blocs on the Supreme Court at the moment.

Sotomayor/Kagan/Brown Jackson - Mainstream Democrats, pretty lockstep liberal but also legally minded. Will make clear-cut cases 9-0.

Roberts/Coney Barrett - Constitutional conservatives, relatively precedent-minded. Not friendly towards social issues like reproductive rights, but also not friendly to executive overreach. Roberts' hesitance to make waves may be rubbing off on Barrett.

Gorsuch - Inscrutable, originalist, semi-libertarian-minded judge who is not friendly towards government spending or reproductive rights but is also very unfriendly towards expansions of federal power. Going to be Trump's worst nightmare on treaties and likely on birthright citizenship.

Thomas/Alito/Kavanaugh - Imperial fascists who view themselves as a Guardian Council of sorts for Trump.

Kavanaugh should not be put in the same bucket as Thomas/Alito , as he ruled that Independent State legislatures is unconstitutional. Kavanaugh is very much as 2000s Cheney style conservative who many forget was a massive proponent of the “unitary executive authority” theory

None of this really matters if he's willing to give Trump the power to unilaterally subvert acts of Congress.

That’s exactly what the debate over unitary executive authority was in the 2000s .

https://web.archive.org/web/20250212141540/https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/29/us/brett-kavanaugh-signing-statements.html

When Brett M. Kavanaugh came before the Judiciary Committee in May 2006 for his nomination to be an appeals court judge, senators pressed him on his role in President George W. Bush’s use of signing statements to claim the power to bypass new laws — like a much-disputed assertion the previous December that he could override a ban on torture.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/wbna14003289

A panel of legal scholars and lawyers assembled by the American Bar Association is sharply criticizing the use of "signing statements" by President Bush that assert his right to ignore or not enforce laws passed by Congress.

In a report to be issued today, the ABA task force said that Bush has lodged more challenges to provisions of laws than all previous presidents combined.

Perhaps the most prominent example was legislation last year banning cruel, inhumane or degrading treatment of prisoners at U.S. detention centers. Bush signed the bill into law after a struggle with Congress, then followed it with an official statement indicating that he might waive the ban under his constitutional authority as commander in chief, if necessary to prevent a terrorist attack.

Of course it’s wrong but this was what the entire unitary executive authority debate was over in the 2000s and it’s exactly why Bush appointed Justice Alito and loyalist (Kavanaugh) are two of the biggest proponents of this idea .

The difference between him and Alito is that Kavanaugh is definitely more liberal on stuff like voting rights

[Wrong about 2024 Ghost]

The real question is if the administration listens to them. "John Roberts has made his ruling, now let him enforce it."

This.

I expect we're going to find out I the coming week that the order cannot be enforced, because Lone Skum and his henchmen have broken the relevant payment systems irreperably.

[President Johnson]

Dogsh**t white supremacist podcast host Jack Posobiec and "cat turd" - Philip Buchanan, a fat incel nazi who's too embarrassed to post under his real name - are NOT happy about this.

 

https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:xjc7mkotpenvhh6ffewkdpyn/post/3ljnjn7no4k2a

I have an idea: Just impeach the guy whoever appointed her. An apparent case of very poor judgement. Any Republican opposing this effort should get a primary challenger that would have my complete and total endorsement.

[Stand With Israel. Crush Hamas]

The real question is if the administration listens to them. "John Roberts has made his ruling, now let him enforce it."

This.

I expect we're going to find out I the coming week that the order cannot be enforced, because Lone Skum and his henchmen have broken the relevant payment systems irreperably.

Trump doesn't enforce anything either.

What we'll have is tens of thousands of street-level workers, agents, and military members who will be tasked with enforcing orders that are now, on the books, officially illegal according to the highest law in the land. They'll know full well that if Trump doesn't have power at any point, they could be held personally liable for the crimes they committed based on illegal orders.

[DrScholl]

If I had to guess Barrett is probably not much of a Trump fan. At least not enough to usurp the law for him.

[RBH]

How long until Trump and friends discover the concept of expanding the Supreme Court

[Blue3]

It's good that Roberts and Barrett saved the day.

It's concerning that there were still 4 votes otherwise, and it was so close.

But the big question is if this will spark the showdown, or not.

[Joe Biden 2028]

Amy Coney Barrett is such an unexpected wild card. I can dig it.

It seems as though ACB is a liberal on just about everything except abortion at this point.

Also not sure what this really does with USAID beyond requiring that a substantial number of its pre-Trump contracts be honoured. It's not like SCOTUS has told Trump he can't make any changes to foreign aid whatsoever.

ACB ruled against student loan forgiveness though

[TiltsAreUnderrated]

Hoping against hope that the Democrats aren't negatively polarised into supporting Republican Supreme Court Justices, but it's already happened with Roberts and I can't get "the notorious ACB" out of my head.

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Hoping against hope that the Democrats aren't negatively polarised into supporting Republican Supreme Court Justices, but it's already happened with Roberts and I can't get "the notorious ACB" out of my head.

Stevens was the most liberal member of the court, but obviously the Republican justices today are pretty bad.

[インターネット掲示板ユーザー Punxsutawney Phil]

Pleasant surprise. I expected this would be technically constitutional!

[K.W.R.A.E. 8647]

It's good that Roberts and Barrett saved the day.

It's concerning that there were still 4 votes otherwise, and it was so close.

But the big question is if this will spark the showdown, or not.

Probably not, because it's so limited. If I understand it, it merely requires the government to pay for contracts already agreed to and in some cases substantially performed, which... duh. But going forward it's not like this will be as much of an issue because they won't be signing those contracts.

[Progressive Pessimist]

Outlier decision.

[KakyoinMemeHouse]

Outlier decision.

Why can't anything just be a good sign for you? If they were gonna rule in favor of him on anything, it was gonna be this.

[Steve from Lambeth]

Outlier decision.

Why can't anything just be a good sign for you? If they were gonna rule in favor of him on anything, it was gonna be this.

You are literally talking to someone who calls himself "Progressive Pessimist"

[インターネット掲示板ユーザー Punxsutawney Phil]

Outlier decision.

Why can't anything just be a good sign for you? If they were gonna rule in favor of him on anything, it was gonna be this.

You are literally talking to someone who calls himself "Progressive Pessimist"

This is a funny exchange as it is basically a mixture of username checks out and "figures this person would say that".
It also inspired a poll on my part. Lol.

[Progressive Pessimist]

As usual, I'm just being realistic. If we have to rely on Hotdog-Barrett and Roberts for 5-4 decisions, we're f***ed in even more than the usual two or three orifices.

[MarkD]

I hope Trump keeps on losing and losing and losing all the time.