Democrats only . . .

[Mr.Bakari-Sellers]

Too old to fight and it's too cold to fight in Ukraine anyways.

[Joe Rogaine]

I have a congenital heart defect which as far as I know disqualifies me from service.

I don't think Dems have ever advocated for Americans to fight in Ukraine. I think the more hawkish among them are peeved that Biden tied their hands behind their back and didn't fully commit to the effort and believe that a drop in the bucket for us can go a long way to supporting a fledgling democracy while simultaneously wearing down our traditional adversary.

This seems like a clever gotcha at first, but you should ask actual Ukrainians about whether they're willing to keep fighting or not, because that's the matter at hand. You'll get a mixture of answers, same as in any other conflict. If Ukraine doesn't want to fight anymore, we should demand they be given a security guarantee and entry into NATO. Who cares what Russia wants? All they can do is saber rattle. Which is the irony of Trump's stupid WW3 comment. Russia doesn't really hold many cards either. They can threaten to nuke us with their likely paper mâché arsenal.

You know how stupid it looks for America to thump its chest constantly about how no one can beat us in a conventional war, and then tuck tail and run because an idiot who got his dick stuck in the meatgrinder and is trying to save face threatens to blow us up a hundred times? People who think avoiding nuclear war is really what's at stake are such brain stems. If you called Russia's bluff they'd do nothing.

[ponderosa peen 🌲]

Probably not, but if we went to war with Russia I could easily get a very high-paying job using my skills to kill Russian soldiers in other ways and I would definitely do that for any branch.

[Doomer]

If the Ukraine situation perpetuates to where there are American boots on the ground . . .

1.  Will you enlist in a branch of the military?

     a.  If you answer "No", why not?

     b.  If you answer "Yes", which branch, and why?

1. No.

      a. I’m too old. Also there won’t be a need for American troops on the ground. All I’m asking for is aiding a fellow democracy stand against a ruthless dictatorship.
      b. N/A


Question: Why do you support dictatorships over sovereign nations?

[Virginiá]

If they wanted people for Ukraine, sure. I have no interest in going anywhere else, especially if we're fighting Trump's battles. Also, I'm getting close to hitting their max enlistment age.

Army - probably for signals intelligence. I doubt they would want a programmer / IT worker as a grunt. Also, Pete Hegseth doesn't think women should serve in combat roles, sooo.....

[Sic Semper Tyrannis]

No. My mental illnesses make me unfit for combat. I could see myself being involved in other roles though.

[Not Me, Us]

I’m fairly sure I wouldn’t be allowed since I have type 1 diabetes, but of course this is a ridiculous strawman from a traitorous fascist, so I don’t even know why I bother responding.

[GeneralMacArthur]

I would love to do whatever I can to help kill Russian soldiers.

My skills would probably be better deployed elsewhere than in the trenches, though.  Like working on drone tech.

[Horus]

Fuzzy, when are you going to engage with my question about one of the DOGE kids being a confirmed Satanist? "Stop trolling" isn't gonna cut it bud.

[Comrade Funk]

Fuzzy Bear only..

Do you support Russia because Trump does and you’re a cultist?

Do you support Russia because you like the fact they jail gay people?

Where's Hunter Fuzzy?

[Damocles]

Yes. Either the Air Force or the Army.

I’d probably be most useful as a logistics officer. I’d be responsible for ensuring that the petroleum, oil, and lubricant products get to the units that need them, at the right time, quantity, quality, location, condition, etc. I’d be responsible for overseeing maintenance and armament depots, so that the vehicles the troops ride in are in good condition and do what’s required, when they need them.

No modern army runs without POL, and it’s suicidal to not have some sort of mechanization for your infantry units. Even if that’s just ISVs (glorified dune buggies), then so be it.

[Blue3]

If the Ukraine situation perpetuates to where there are American boots on the ground . . .

1.  Will you enlist in a branch of the military?

     a.  If you answer "No", why not?

     b.  If you answer "Yes", which branch, and why?

I once considering joining the military and told I couldn't qualify due to Crohn's disease. And now I think I'd be too old. So does that count?

At this point, even if I could qualify, I wouldn't as my personal philosophy and values have changed. But on Ukraine in particular... we aren't putting boots on the ground, we are supporting a country that was invaded. So I wouldn't think support for at least some funding and materials for Ukraine is in any ways hypocritical.

As for which branch... out of sentimental reasons with both my grandfathers in the Navy in World War II, I'd choose the Navy. I also think I'd be less useful as a pilot or actually using a gun, and better using equipment and the time for more strategic thinking.

[GeneralMacArthur]

By the way, I know this thread is starting to have a bit of a "what would you do on the anarchist commune" vibe -- oh I would join the army but I would be in charge of catering or logistics or cybersecurity, or oh I have bone spurs they wouldn't want me on the front lines.  But it's worth noting that only 5-10% of active duty military personnel are actually involved in combat-facing roles and that number is one I remember from 2017 or so, when we were still fighting in Afghanistan and versus ISIS.  The vast majority of people in the military are support or technical.

With that said, if the military saw me fit to be on the front lines and trained me properly to succeed there I would for sure get my gun.  I don't want to be mister "oh yeah I'd join the army but I'm sure they'd have me sitting in the Pentagon doing AI work" even though that's probably true.

[VBM]

Are there any Democrats, on this site or in prominent political positions, who have ever advocated for putting Americans on the ground in Ukraine? Genuinely curious.

And for the record, yes, I think it's more likely I would than not. If we were actually fighting Russians on the ground, that would imply a full-scale conflict the likes of which have not been seen since WWII, and I would probably feel some duty to enlist. Though it's worth noting that right now, the more realistic scenario would be the US going to war against Ukraine on Russia's behalf.

This is derailing.  You're not manning up.

I very clearly answered the question.

You were clearly supposed to spend 5 paragraphs dodging the question and/or creating a bunch of caveats

[Damocles]

By the way, I know this thread is starting to have a bit of a "what would you do on the anarchist commune" vibe -- oh I would join the army but I would be in charge of catering or logistics or cybersecurity, or oh I have bone spurs they wouldn't want me on the front lines.  But it's worth noting that only 5-10% of active duty military personnel are actually involved in combat-facing roles and that number is one I remember from 2017 or so, when we were still fighting in Afghanistan and versus ISIS.  The vast majority of people in the military are support or technical.

With that said, if the military saw me fit to be on the front lines and trained me properly to succeed there I would for sure get my gun.  I don't want to be mister "oh yeah I'd join the army but I'm sure they'd have me sitting in the Pentagon doing AI work" even though that's probably true.

I actually tried to join the army in 2020, only for them to reject me on the basis of me being neurodivergent. Okay, fair game - you probably wouldn't want someone toting an AR into battle if they have impulse control or attention regulation difficulties.

Then, four to five years later, I now have an MBA, a few years' experience working in and running warehouses, and industry-leading credentials. I couldn't keep the recruiters *off* my ass, to the point where it actually became kind of annoying.

[Fuzzy Bear]

Are there any Democrats, on this site or in prominent political positions, who have ever advocated for putting Americans on the ground in Ukraine? Genuinely curious.

And for the record, yes, I think it's more likely I would than not. If we were actually fighting Russians on the ground, that would imply a full-scale conflict the likes of which have not been seen since WWII, and I would probably feel some duty to enlist. Though it's worth noting that right now, the more realistic scenario would be the US going to war against Ukraine on Russia's behalf.

This is derailing.  You're not manning up.

I very clearly answered the question.

Bold of you to assume he can read.

I'm also not a Democrat, so it's not like the thread even applied to me in the first place.

Then I wasn't asking you.  You crashed the party.

[Doomer]

If the Ukraine situation perpetuates to where there are American boots on the ground . . .

1.  Will you enlist in a branch of the military?

     a.  If you answer "No", why not?

     b.  If you answer "Yes", which branch, and why?

1. No.

      a. I’m too old. Also there won’t be a need for American troops on the ground. All I’m asking for is aiding a fellow democracy stand against a ruthless dictatorship.
      b. N/A


Question: Why do you support dictatorships over sovereign nations?

Fuzzy? No follow up?

We done here?

[Kleine Scheiße]

I'm an epileptic. If it gets to the point where I'm that high on the priority list to be sent into battle, the world has bigger problems.

[Horus]

Fuzzy, when are you going to engage with my question about one of the DOGE kids being a confirmed Satanist? "Stop trolling" isn't gonna cut it bud.

[Bea O'Problem]

I am medically ineligible to serve.

[Fuzzy Bear]

If the Ukraine situation perpetuates to where there are American boots on the ground . . .

1.  Will you enlist in a branch of the military?

     a.  If you answer "No", why not?

     b.  If you answer "Yes", which branch, and why?

1. No.

      a. I’m too old. Also there won’t be a need for American troops on the ground. All I’m asking for is aiding a fellow democracy stand against a ruthless dictatorship.
      b. N/A


Question: Why do you support dictatorships over sovereign nations?

Fuzzy? No follow up?

We done here?

Stop trolling and derailing.

[Horus]

If the Ukraine situation perpetuates to where there are American boots on the ground . . .

1.  Will you enlist in a branch of the military?

     a.  If you answer "No", why not?

     b.  If you answer "Yes", which branch, and why?

1. No.

      a. I’m too old. Also there won’t be a need for American troops on the ground. All I’m asking for is aiding a fellow democracy stand against a ruthless dictatorship.
      b. N/A


Question: Why do you support dictatorships over sovereign nations?

Fuzzy? No follow up?

We done here?

Stop trolling and derailing.

Sheep

[courts]

If the Ukraine situation perpetuates to where there are American boots on the ground . . .

1.  Will you enlist in a branch of the military?

     a.  If you answer "No", why not?

     b.  If you answer "Yes", which branch, and why?

1. No.

      a. I’m too old. Also there won’t be a need for American troops on the ground. All I’m asking for is aiding a fellow democracy stand against a ruthless dictatorship.
      b. N/A


Question: Why do you support dictatorships over sovereign nations?

Fuzzy? No follow up?

We done here?

Stop trolling and derailing.

Sheep

he will never learn anything

[Fuzzy Bear]

If the Ukraine situation perpetuates to where there are American boots on the ground . . .

1.  Will you enlist in a branch of the military?

     a.  If you answer "No", why not?

     b.  If you answer "Yes", which branch, and why?

1. No.

      a. I’m too old. Also there won’t be a need for American troops on the ground. All I’m asking for is aiding a fellow democracy stand against a ruthless dictatorship.
      b. N/A


Question: Why do you support dictatorships over sovereign nations?

Fuzzy? No follow up?

We done here?

Stop trolling and derailing.

Sheep

he will never learn anything

I have had posts deleted for trolling for similar behavior on other topics.  If it's not OK for me, it's not OK for others.  You can stay on topic as well.

[Doomer]

If the Ukraine situation perpetuates to where there are American boots on the ground . . .

1.  Will you enlist in a branch of the military?

     a.  If you answer "No", why not?

     b.  If you answer "Yes", which branch, and why?

1. No.

      a. I’m too old. Also there won’t be a need for American troops on the ground. All I’m asking for is aiding a fellow democracy stand against a ruthless dictatorship.
      b. N/A


Question: Why do you support dictatorships over sovereign nations?

Fuzzy? No follow up?

We done here?

Stop trolling and derailing.

You asked a question and I answered it.

I asked you a question and the best you can say is “Stop trolling.”

You’re also ignoring Horus.

YOU started this thread but no one’s allowed to engage?