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« Reply #1475 on: April 16, 2025, 09:27:21 AM »



We saw something similar last year in economy issue polling between Trump and Harris. I honestly think Harris and Dems genuinely crafted a good economic message but still lost due to the culture war stuff and social media misinformation.

I'll say it again that the fact that Harris was able to get Trump to 53/46 I believe in the exit polls on who is better on the economy despite the economy (as an abstract) basically being the reason that Harris lost, and with Biden's terrible approval on the economy, should be a testament to how she had a pretty good economic message
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« Reply #1476 on: April 16, 2025, 09:33:25 AM »

YouGov/Economist

Trump fav 42/53 (adults); 45/54 (RV)
Vance fav 37/52 (adults); 42/52 (RV)

Trump approval 42/52 (adults); 45/53 (RV)

Crime 45/41 (adults); 48/43 (RV)
Guns 38/41 (adults); 42/41 (RV)
Taxes and government spending 44/47 (adults); 46/50 (RV)
Abortion 37/43 (adults); 39/45 (RV)
Jobs and the economy 42/49 (adults); 45/51 (RV)
Climate change and the environment 35/45 (adults); 39/46 (RV)
Health care 37/47 (adults); 39/49 (RV)
Inflation/prices 37/55 (adults); 42/55 (RV)

https://d3nkl3psvxxpe9.cloudfront.net/documents/econTabReport_wmD8f2B.pdf#page=3

The tide is turning where adults are now *worse* for Trump than RV. Those low/non engagement folks are quickly turning on him.
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« Reply #1477 on: April 16, 2025, 09:33:45 AM »

Tim Walz was a lame pick as well, Mark Kelly as I lobbied for would of helped or Shapiro or Beshear. Walz just reminded others of Biden

I know we have been thru this but Walz wasn't that known to many voters Shapiro and Beshear and Mark Kelly were spectacular picks
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« Reply #1478 on: April 16, 2025, 09:36:27 AM »



We saw something similar last year in economy issue polling between Trump and Harris. I honestly think Harris and Dems genuinely crafted a good economic message but still lost due to the culture war stuff and social media misinformation.

I'll say it again that the fact that Harris was able to get Trump to 53/46 I believe in the exit polls on who is better on the economy despite the economy (as an abstract) basically being the reason that Harris lost, and with Biden's terrible approval on the economy, should be a testament to how she had a pretty good economic message

Harry Enten can say it until he's blue in the face, but I will never believe that the majority of Trump voters actually gave a rat's ass about "the economy." Their brains were cooked by years of information warfare, racist lies about immigrants, BLM, DEI etc, and online bots, and they voted based on that.

The majority of Trump voters don't even know what the economy is.
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« Reply #1479 on: April 16, 2025, 09:45:00 AM »


Walz reminded me of the Skipper from 'Gilligan's Island'.
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« Reply #1480 on: April 16, 2025, 10:05:34 AM »

I was referring to Moderate women voters whom otherwise would have voted for Harris Walz ticket. Not men voters we are stubborn voters.
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« Reply #1481 on: April 16, 2025, 10:40:07 AM »


Walz reminded me of the Skipper from 'Gilligan's Island'.

OMG you're right.  I never noticed that until now.
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« Reply #1482 on: April 16, 2025, 11:26:59 AM »

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Trump fav 42/53 (adults); 45/54 (RV)
Vance fav 37/52 (adults); 42/52 (RV)

Trump approval 42/52 (adults); 45/53 (RV)

Crime 45/41 (adults); 48/43 (RV)
Guns 38/41 (adults); 42/41 (RV)
Taxes and government spending 44/47 (adults); 46/50 (RV)
Abortion 37/43 (adults); 39/45 (RV)
Jobs and the economy 42/49 (adults); 45/51 (RV)
Climate change and the environment 35/45 (adults); 39/46 (RV)
Health care 37/47 (adults); 39/49 (RV)
Inflation/prices 37/55 (adults); 42/55 (RV)

https://d3nkl3psvxxpe9.cloudfront.net/documents/econTabReport_wmD8f2B.pdf#page=3

The tide is turning where adults are now *worse* for Trump than RV. Those low/non engagement folks are quickly turning on him.
Vance numbers are just as bad as Harris pre-candidacy ones and not even 100 days have passed, can anyone tell me why dems should be scared of this fraud?
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« Reply #1483 on: April 16, 2025, 12:14:11 PM »

It’s still extremely depressing to see those immigration numbers.

Trump: *sends innocent people to death camps without due process and defying the courts*
Over 50% of Americans, including some Democrats: good job A+
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« Reply #1484 on: April 16, 2025, 12:15:27 PM »

It’s still extremely depressing to see those immigration numbers.

Trump: *sends innocent people to death camps without due process and defying the courts*
Over 50% of Americans, including some Democrats: good job A+

Other pollsters have asked about the deportations in particular and I think Trump is in negative territory in that regard.
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« Reply #1485 on: April 16, 2025, 12:23:10 PM »

It’s still extremely depressing to see those immigration numbers.

Trump: *sends innocent people to death camps without due process and defying the courts*
Over 50% of Americans, including some Democrats: good job A+

Other pollsters have asked about the deportations in particular and I think Trump is in negative territory in that regard.

Yeah, I think there's a bit of nuance there. I think most people think of Trumps "immigration" plan as just "border security / deport all the illegal criminals" because when you ask about the deportations themselves, especially of people who have been here a long time, (let alone innocent people) the numbers are quite different
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« Reply #1486 on: April 16, 2025, 12:25:57 PM »

It’s still extremely depressing to see those immigration numbers.

Trump: *sends innocent people to death camps without due process and defying the courts*
Over 50% of Americans, including some Democrats: good job A+

Other pollsters have asked about the deportations in particular and I think Trump is in negative territory in that regard.

Yeah, I think there's a bit of nuance there. I think most people think of Trumps "immigration" plan as just "border security / deport all the illegal criminals" because when you ask about the deportations themselves, especially of people who have been here a long time, (let alone innocent people) the numbers are quite different

Americans are dumb.



There are very few immigrants to whom none of these conditions apply.
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« Reply #1487 on: April 16, 2025, 12:26:04 PM »
« Edited: April 16, 2025, 12:30:24 PM by หมูเด้ง »

YouGov/Economist

Trump fav 42/53 (adults); 45/54 (RV)
Vance fav 37/52 (adults); 42/52 (RV)

Trump approval 42/52 (adults); 45/53 (RV)

Crime 45/41 (adults); 48/43 (RV)
Guns 38/41 (adults); 42/41 (RV)
Taxes and government spending 44/47 (adults); 46/50 (RV)
Abortion 37/43 (adults); 39/45 (RV)
Jobs and the economy 42/49 (adults); 45/51 (RV)
Climate change and the environment 35/45 (adults); 39/46 (RV)
Health care 37/47 (adults); 39/49 (RV)
Inflation/prices 37/55 (adults); 42/55 (RV)

https://d3nkl3psvxxpe9.cloudfront.net/documents/econTabReport_wmD8f2B.pdf#page=3

The tide is turning where adults are now *worse* for Trump than RV. Those low/non engagement folks are quickly turning on him.
Vance numbers are just as bad as Harris pre-candidacy ones and not even 100 days have passed, can anyone tell me why dems should be scared of this fraud?

It looks like Trump has almost done reverting to his natural levels. Vance is somehow slightly lower than that. Trump is at the top of his natural range and Vance is at the bottom of it. It's generally 40%(+-4%)

Democrats have to prove they can run national campaigns again otherwise, this will be another close election or at least the very least, one that isn't but turns out to be much closer in the end.  

Democrats can win big again if they don't run people who are either the Liberal Boogeyman(Clinton), or a Generic D(Biden), or some DEI situation(Harris).
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« Reply #1488 on: April 16, 2025, 12:27:21 PM »
« Edited: April 16, 2025, 01:06:15 PM by Are you kidding me. »

It’s still extremely depressing to see those immigration numbers.

Trump: *sends innocent people to death camps without due process and defying the courts*
Over 50% of Americans, including some Democrats: good job A+

Other pollsters have asked about the deportations in particular and I think Trump is in negative territory in that regard.

Yeah, G. Elliott Morris did an analysis of this on Xitter. Pretty much, when pollsters ask the general public if they approve of how he's handling immigration overall as a general question, he gets slightly positive marks, but when they survey people on the specifics—like the ICE raids in schools and places of worship, openly defying court orders, and deporting legal citizens—they're overwhelmingly negative.
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« Reply #1489 on: April 16, 2025, 12:36:34 PM »

It’s still extremely depressing to see those immigration numbers.

Trump: *sends innocent people to death camps without due process and defying the courts*
Over 50% of Americans, including some Democrats: good job A+

Other pollsters have asked about the deportations in particular and I think Trump is in negative territory in that regard.

Yeah, G. Elliott Morris did an analysis of this on Xitter. Pretty much, when pollsters ask the general public if they approve of how he's handling immigration overall as a general question, he gets slightly positive marks, but when they survey people on the specifics, like the ICE raids in schools and places of worship, they're overwhelmingly negative.


Are people really that annoyed by other people in public to the point that they are basing their opinions solely on it? That's what it feels like. I like to think that the voter for whom but for them switching their vote, Harris would have won is not racist or sexist or really into the rest of the spectral DOGE and tariff sh**t. At least I want to think that. I would be more willing to believe that voters in Bucks County, PA, Maricopa County, AZ, Washhoe County, NV et al are just voting for Trump because they are annoyed with all the Mezo-South American accordion music, panhandlers, pot smells, stories on the news about cars getting stolen and think that Trump is going to somehow make all of these people who annoy them go away. Especially when you have girls on the internet shaking their asses trying to get you to vote for him.
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« Reply #1490 on: April 16, 2025, 12:40:56 PM »

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« Reply #1491 on: April 16, 2025, 12:45:29 PM »



At this point, it does feel like the only thing keeping 2026 competitive is casual racism.
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« Reply #1492 on: April 16, 2025, 12:52:58 PM »

People should be aware that those numbers does NOT mean that being brutally tough on immigrants is a losing issue for republicans. When presented with questions like these the vast majority will say that these people shouldn't be deported, only the criminals, the unemployed, etc. But it's absolutely NOT like they actually care what is being done to these people or that this will sway their vote in any way whatsoever. The people who DO care already vote for democrats. That is just the reality.

Being soft on immigration doesn't win over swing voters. Being for criminal justice reform doesn't win over swing voters. A progressive climate change plan does not win over swing voters. LGBTQ rights doesn't win over swing voters.

There a quite a few issues where people will in the abstract agree with democrats, it's just that if those issues actually mattered to them, they would already be voting for democrats.
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« Reply #1493 on: April 16, 2025, 01:00:30 PM »


This, from one of the most Trump-friendly pollsters this cycle.
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« Reply #1494 on: April 16, 2025, 01:03:53 PM »

People should be aware that those numbers does NOT mean that being brutally tough on immigrants is a losing issue for republicans. When presented with questions like these the vast majority will say that these people shouldn't be deported, only the criminals, the unemployed, etc. But it's absolutely NOT like they actually care what is being done to these people or that this will sway their vote in any way whatsoever. The people who DO care already vote for democrats. That is just the reality.

Being soft on immigration doesn't win over swing voters. Being for criminal justice reform doesn't win over swing voters. A progressive climate change plan does not win over swing voters. LGBTQ rights doesn't win over swing voters.

There a quite a few issues where people will in the abstract agree with democrats, it's just that if those issues actually mattered to them, they would already be voting for democrats.

Heck the Tories basically did the same thing with Rwanda and it really didn’t hurt them that much . If not for the chaotic nature of that last term , it’s very possible they may have gotten reelected despite everything else .

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« Reply #1495 on: April 16, 2025, 01:12:59 PM »

People should be aware that those numbers does NOT mean that being brutally tough on immigrants is a losing issue for republicans. When presented with questions like these the vast majority will say that these people shouldn't be deported, only the criminals, the unemployed, etc. But it's absolutely NOT like they actually care what is being done to these people or that this will sway their vote in any way whatsoever. The people who DO care already vote for democrats. That is just the reality.

Being soft on immigration doesn't win over swing voters. Being for criminal justice reform doesn't win over swing voters. A progressive climate change plan does not win over swing voters. LGBTQ rights doesn't win over swing voters.

There a quite a few issues where people will in the abstract agree with democrats, it's just that if those issues actually mattered to them, they would already be voting for democrats.

Heck the Tories basically did the same thing with Rwanda and it really didn’t hurt them that much . If not for the chaotic nature of that last term , it’s very possible they may have gotten reelected despite everything else .


Whatever the Tories' stupid plan entailed, it was not "basically the same thing" - it was not a death camp run by one of the world's most deranged dictators, and they were probably not going to send people there on false/mistaken pretenses.
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« Reply #1496 on: April 16, 2025, 02:41:35 PM »

People should be aware that those numbers does NOT mean that being brutally tough on immigrants is a losing issue for republicans. When presented with questions like these the vast majority will say that these people shouldn't be deported, only the criminals, the unemployed, etc. But it's absolutely NOT like they actually care what is being done to these people or that this will sway their vote in any way whatsoever. The people who DO care already vote for democrats. That is just the reality.

Being soft on immigration doesn't win over swing voters. Being for criminal justice reform doesn't win over swing voters. A progressive climate change plan does not win over swing voters. LGBTQ rights doesn't win over swing voters.

There a quite a few issues where people will in the abstract agree with democrats, it's just that if those issues actually mattered to them, they would already be voting for democrats.

Heck the Tories basically did the same thing with Rwanda and it really didn’t hurt them that much . If not for the chaotic nature of that last term , it’s very possible they may have gotten reelected despite everything else .


Whatever the Tories' stupid plan entailed, it was not "basically the same thing" - it was not a death camp run by one of the world's most deranged dictators, and they were probably not going to send people there on false/mistaken pretenses.

That's the Republican talking point. "It's not really that bad", "Trump is technically complying", and so forth...
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« Reply #1497 on: April 16, 2025, 02:53:06 PM »

YouGov/Economist

Trump fav 42/53 (adults); 45/54 (RV)
Vance fav 37/52 (adults); 42/52 (RV)

Trump approval 42/52 (adults); 45/53 (RV)

Crime 45/41 (adults); 48/43 (RV)
Guns 38/41 (adults); 42/41 (RV)
Taxes and government spending 44/47 (adults); 46/50 (RV)
Abortion 37/43 (adults); 39/45 (RV)
Jobs and the economy 42/49 (adults); 45/51 (RV)
Climate change and the environment 35/45 (adults); 39/46 (RV)
Health care 37/47 (adults); 39/49 (RV)
Inflation/prices 37/55 (adults); 42/55 (RV)

https://d3nkl3psvxxpe9.cloudfront.net/documents/econTabReport_wmD8f2B.pdf#page=3

The tide is turning where adults are now *worse* for Trump than RV. Those low/non engagement folks are quickly turning on him.
Vance numbers are just as bad as Harris pre-candidacy ones and not even 100 days have passed, can anyone tell me why dems should be scared of this fraud?

Because here on Atlas, every Democrat is overrated and every Republican is a secret, underrated electoral titan.
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« Reply #1498 on: April 16, 2025, 03:00:06 PM »

YouGov/Economist

Trump fav 42/53 (adults); 45/54 (RV)
Vance fav 37/52 (adults); 42/52 (RV)

Trump approval 42/52 (adults); 45/53 (RV)

Crime 45/41 (adults); 48/43 (RV)
Guns 38/41 (adults); 42/41 (RV)
Taxes and government spending 44/47 (adults); 46/50 (RV)
Abortion 37/43 (adults); 39/45 (RV)
Jobs and the economy 42/49 (adults); 45/51 (RV)
Climate change and the environment 35/45 (adults); 39/46 (RV)
Health care 37/47 (adults); 39/49 (RV)
Inflation/prices 37/55 (adults); 42/55 (RV)

https://d3nkl3psvxxpe9.cloudfront.net/documents/econTabReport_wmD8f2B.pdf#page=3

The tide is turning where adults are now *worse* for Trump than RV. Those low/non engagement folks are quickly turning on him.
Vance numbers are just as bad as Harris pre-candidacy ones and not even 100 days have passed, can anyone tell me why dems should be scared of this fraud?

Because here on Atlas, every Democrat is overrated and every Republican is a secret, underrated electoral titan.

And it is true until it is no longer the case, but Wisconsin showed us that they can be beat.
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« Reply #1499 on: April 16, 2025, 03:08:25 PM »

I've said this before and I'll say it again, Vance won't even be the nominee in 28. I think we end up with two governors running against each other in the general.
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