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Zenobiyl
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« on: December 29, 2024, 03:19:37 AM »

Obvious #1 goes to Murkowksi/Sullivan, but what other states have wildly different senators from the same party?
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« Reply #1 on: December 29, 2024, 03:30:06 AM »

Mike Lee and Mitt Romney, soon to be John Curtis.
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« Reply #2 on: December 29, 2024, 05:10:52 AM »

Sullivan is pretty standard for a Republican, no?

Has to be Lee/Romney or Curtis on the GOP end, though Paul/McConnell is probably second.

As for Dems...really not sure. We had Menendez/Booker and Feinstein/Padilla at the beginning of this Congress which I'd say are more divergent than any current or incoming delegation, but still not to the extent of the GOP ones.
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« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2024, 10:07:53 AM »

For Dems: perhaps Sinema and Kelly (if we’re still considering Democratic caucusing independents as Democrats for this purpose)
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« Reply #4 on: December 29, 2024, 10:18:07 AM »

Some dem possibilities:

Kaine and Warner
Smith and Klobuchar
Reed and Whitehouse

But you gotta squint pretty hard to see it.
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« Reply #5 on: December 29, 2024, 03:29:37 PM »

McConnell and Rand Paul have always been an odd couple. Cruz and Cornyn also probably don't get along.
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« Reply #6 on: December 29, 2024, 05:05:15 PM »

Sullivan is pretty standard for a Republican, no?

Has to be Lee/Romney or Curtis on the GOP end, though Paul/McConnell is probably second.

As for Dems...really not sure. We had Menendez/Booker and Feinstein/Padilla at the beginning of this Congress which I'd say are more divergent than any current or incoming delegation, but still not to the extent of the GOP ones.

Utah makes sense--Romney is to the right of Murkowski, but Lee is well to the right of Sullivan also. For democrats it's tougher since Sinema already left.

Blunt-Rochester/Coons will likely be #1 after the new senators are sworn in, and until then maybe Booker/Helmy?
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« Reply #7 on: December 29, 2024, 08:36:01 PM »

Sullivan is pretty standard for a Republican, no?

Has to be Lee/Romney or Curtis on the GOP end, though Paul/McConnell is probably second.

As for Dems...really not sure. We had Menendez/Booker and Feinstein/Padilla at the beginning of this Congress which I'd say are more divergent than any current or incoming delegation, but still not to the extent of the GOP ones.

Utah makes sense--Romney is to the right of Murkowski, but Lee is well to the right of Sullivan also. For democrats it's tougher since Sinema already left.

Blunt-Rochester/Coons will likely be #1 after the new senators are sworn in, and until then maybe Booker/Helmy?

Andy Kim is already Senator there, that's a good divergence.

But also:

Lankford/Mullin (OK)
Murray/Cantwell (WA)
Murphy/Blumenthal (CT)
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« Reply #8 on: December 30, 2024, 09:45:43 AM »

I don't see why no one said Cassidy/Kennedy (Louisiana gang) yet.
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« Reply #9 on: December 30, 2024, 10:42:06 AM »

I don't see why no one said Cassidy/Kennedy (Louisiana gang) yet.
Because Cassidy is generic R besides the impeachment vote
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« Reply #10 on: December 30, 2024, 03:18:22 PM »

Alsobrooks has openly tried to distance herself from Van Hollen’s positions on Israel/Palestine, and it was hard to find a more pro-Israel Democrat than Ben Cardin (other than Fetterman).
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« Reply #11 on: January 02, 2025, 07:02:14 PM »

I don't see why no one said Cassidy/Kennedy (Louisiana gang) yet.
Because Cassidy is generic R besides the impeachment vote

Tbf, though, the impeachment vote is still a pretty big thing, and Kennedy is one of the Trumpiest and most outwardly MAGA Senators (Senate is very different from House inthat majority of R members are still from the pre-Trump era and accordingly not that "MAGA" in their rhetoric or too big on Trump). Case in point, Kennedy was one of just 8 Senators to vote against confirming the 2020 election results. Polar opposite of Cassidy as far as Trumpiness / election denialism was concerned.
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« Reply #12 on: January 02, 2025, 07:05:55 PM »

Alsobrooks has openly tried to distance herself from Van Hollen’s positions on Israel/Palestine, and it was hard to find a more pro-Israel Democrat than Ben Cardin (other than Fetterman).

More broadly though Alsobrooks isn't very pro-Israel or far from the mainstream D position on the issue (e.g. she supports two-state solution, ceasefire, etc). The difference seems more rhetorical - with CVH being much more openly critical of Israel - than substantial.

And aside from that one issue they both (?) seem standard D for the most part, so idk.

I do agree that Cardin was definitely more overtly pro-Israel than both CVH and Alsobrooks.
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« Reply #13 on: January 03, 2025, 03:25:17 AM »

I don't see why no one said Cassidy/Kennedy (Louisiana gang) yet.
Because Cassidy is generic R besides the impeachment vote

Tbf, though, the impeachment vote is still a pretty big thing, and Kennedy is one of the Trumpiest and most outwardly MAGA Senators (Senate is very different from House inthat majority of R members are still from the pre-Trump era and accordingly not that "MAGA" in their rhetoric or too big on Trump). Case in point, Kennedy was one of just 8 Senators to vote against confirming the 2020 election results. Polar opposite of Cassidy as far as Trumpiness / election denialism was concerned.

Pretty much all southern state R delegations have an establishment/MAGA divide.
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« Reply #14 on: January 03, 2025, 03:44:51 AM »

I don't see why no one said Cassidy/Kennedy (Louisiana gang) yet.
Because Cassidy is generic R besides the impeachment vote

Tbf, though, the impeachment vote is still a pretty big thing, and Kennedy is one of the Trumpiest and most outwardly MAGA Senators (Senate is very different from House inthat majority of R members are still from the pre-Trump era and accordingly not that "MAGA" in their rhetoric or too big on Trump). Case in point, Kennedy was one of just 8 Senators to vote against confirming the 2020 election results. Polar opposite of Cassidy as far as Trumpiness / election denialism was concerned.

Pretty much all southern state R delegations have an establishment/MAGA divide.

You seem correct for the most part, though I think it usually depends largely on when the Senator in question was first elected.

AL: Britt (since 2023; establishment) and Tuberville (since 2021; MAGA)
MS: Wicker (since 2007; establishment) and Hyde-Smith (since 2018; MAGA)
TN: Hagerty (since 2021; MAGA) and Blackburn (since 2019; MAGA)
NC: Tillis (since 2015; establishment) and Budd (since 2023; MAGA)
AR: Boozman (since 2011; establishment) and Cotton (since 2015; establishment)
MO: Schmitt (since 2023; could be viewed as either) and Hawley (since 2019; MAGA)
KY: McConnell (since 1985; establishment) and Paul (since 2011; not MAGA but not establishment either)
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