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« on: December 20, 2024, 12:34:52 PM »

I was thinking about how WA-8 used to be a perennially competitive seat for decades from the 2000s onward with Democrats putting extensive resources attempting to win the seat and failing to do so in 2006, 2008, 2012, and even 2016, only breaking through in 2018 with Schrier (and Reichert leaving congress). Especially bizarre given it voted Democratic for president since 1992.

Now I don't think most even consider this seat remotely competitive even if it is close.

What other seats really represent the realignment of this era and have cemented that status this year?

A few that come to mind include CA-50 (Scott Peters), MN-3 (formerly Dean Phillips), TX-15 (De La Cruz), and the three rural Minnesota districts - MN-7 (Fishbach), MN-8 (Stauber), and MN-1 (Finstad)
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« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2024, 01:10:08 PM »

The North Jersey suburban seats.
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« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2024, 01:13:10 PM »

IL-10 in the north suburbs of Chicago, represented between 1980 and 2012 (and then 2014-2016) by three truly excellent Republicans who were honestly too good for that disgusting state.
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« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2024, 01:35:24 PM »

Ohio 6th
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« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2024, 01:38:02 PM »

CO-06
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« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2024, 02:26:12 PM »

IN-01, though it still voted for Harris and Mrvan
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« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2024, 02:36:53 PM »

MN-1 was represented by Republicans back and forth. It's ancestrally Republican.
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« Reply #7 on: December 20, 2024, 02:37:20 PM »

The current WA-8 likely voted for Bush both times but the old 2000s one voted Gore/Kerry.

The current IA-2 (old IA-1) is a realignment seat.
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« Reply #8 on: December 20, 2024, 02:38:33 PM »

WI-7 is a realignment seat.
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« Reply #9 on: December 20, 2024, 02:40:24 PM »

MN-1 was represented by Republicans back and forth. It's ancestrally Republican.

Yeah the Dem who represented that district from 1982-1994 I think was the first Dem to represent it in like 100 years.
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« Reply #10 on: December 20, 2024, 03:28:01 PM »

I believe the area Newt Gingrich used to represent is Democratic now, right?
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« Reply #11 on: December 20, 2024, 03:35:42 PM »
« Edited: December 20, 2024, 03:42:30 PM by lfromnj »

I believe the area Newt Gingrich used to represent is Democratic now, right?

Yes to both versions. The 1990s version is pretty similar to the 2010s version while the  the 1980s version is formerly white suburbs that are now very black combined with rurals
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« Reply #12 on: December 20, 2024, 03:41:55 PM »

NJ-02 and NY-11. Both were WWC-heavy swing seats pre-Trump in statewide races though generally held by moderate Republicans downballot. Now they're super-Republican at all levels.
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« Reply #13 on: December 20, 2024, 06:05:11 PM »

NJ-02 and NY-11. Both were WWC-heavy swing seats pre-Trump in statewide races though generally held by moderate Republicans downballot. Now they're super-Republican at all levels.

I wouldn't say NJ-02 is quite "super-Republican", given how Kim still won Gloucester County and Atlantic County is being just plain weird (though I don't doubt that Concrete Padre Pio Shrine Land won't be voting for a Dem again very soon). It's more weird to me that Obama won Salem County twice and Clinton even won Cape May County (including most of the Wildwoods!) in 1996 than that the swamps and pines and rodeos are now as R as they feel like they should be.
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« Reply #14 on: December 20, 2024, 06:11:25 PM »

Phil Crane,Henry Hyde,Newt Gingrich represented seats now held by Democrat's. David Obey,Dick Gephardt and Tom Foley represented seats now held by Republicans.
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« Reply #15 on: December 20, 2024, 07:02:41 PM »

Phil Crane,Henry Hyde,Newt Gingrich represented seats now held by Democrat's. David Obey,Dick Gephardt and Tom Foley represented seats now held by Republicans.

Huh?? Gephardt's old seat was MO-03 when he represented it between 48 and 20 years ago. It was effectively eliminated 12 years ago by reapportionment and redistricting. It's now split up between M0-01, MO-02, MO-03, and MO-08. Gephardt's old home is now in M0-01, which is very heavily Democratic. Do you mean that, in your perception, the current version of MO-03 is basically the old version of MO-03 that Gephardt used to represent?

(I don't have an answer to the question posed in the OP.)
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« Reply #16 on: December 20, 2024, 07:23:38 PM »

The old TX-07 and TX-32. Also WV-01.
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« Reply #17 on: December 20, 2024, 07:46:51 PM »


The old TX-07 and TX-32 would still be swing seats if they existed today. The new ones were Dem-leaning even in the Obama days.
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« Reply #18 on: December 20, 2024, 08:14:57 PM »


I’m pretty sure the 2010s versions of NJ-05 and NJ-11 would have been Trump seats this year.
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« Reply #19 on: December 20, 2024, 09:49:26 PM »

FL 12th is another one. Gore +0, to McCain +6 to Trump +34 and 150k net votes for Trump.
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« Reply #20 on: December 20, 2024, 10:33:35 PM »

How about dealignment districts? I nominate CA-13.
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« Reply #21 on: December 21, 2024, 10:50:34 AM »

Ike Skelton's seat in Missouri.
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« Reply #22 on: December 21, 2024, 11:11:59 AM »

FL 12th is another one. Gore +0, to McCain +6 to Trump +34 and 150k net votes for Trump.

Have you ever done the math on the FL-05 that Karen Thurman held from 1993-2003?  That went from Gore + 4 to probably something like Trump + 25 or maybe even more.
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« Reply #23 on: December 21, 2024, 05:01:09 PM »

Kansas’ 3rd
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« Reply #24 on: December 21, 2024, 09:52:06 PM »

Pork barrel bagman and Watergate baby John Murtha brought home the bacon for the economically floundering PA-12th before his passing, redistricting, demo churn, and yes realignment wiped out the Ds' congressional hopes there like yet another Johnstown Flood. Granted, petrified-in-amber Blue Dog Frank Burns survives at the local level and the National Dems may well perceive his views on immigration as chockful of Pythian prescience
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