Would you swap the senatorial and gubernatorial results for the presidental results?

[bagelman]

If you accept this deal, the Democrats defeat Trump in the electoral college and Trump loses the presidency. The Democrat may or may not be Kamala Harris, but it will certainty not be President Biden.

However, Republicans now have a 57-43 senate majority. In addition, Republicans defeat Josh Stein in North Carolina. Their candidate could be Mark Robinson, albeit an alternative version of him who is better able to disguise his weirdness and hide his pornhub comments, or it could be someone else. Joyce Craig has been elected New Hampshire's governor.

If I only swap the Presidential and Senatorial results, this would deadlock the electoral college as Angus King won ME-2. Republicans control the majority of state delegations and would be able to elect Trump in the house. If we ignore King's victory in ME-2 (as he is not technically a Democrat) than Trump wins outright 270-268. Also if we swap the margin of victory as well this would create a horrifying situation where the election is uncalled for around a week.

[iceman]

A possible loophole in this deal, the republicans will not win 57-43 senate seats if Trump is losing in most of the swing states

[bagelman]

A possible loophole in this deal, the republicans will not win 57-43 senate seats if Trump is losing in most of the swing states

Trump overpreformed senate Republicans in the real election, the whole point of the deal is that this would be reversed.

[Pericles]

No contest, yes please.

Also, it would have been such a good thing if Trump lost by underperforming other Republicans. Harris shouldn't have just won, she should have been seen to win because of Trump's authoritarianism.

[jaichind]

Yes.  My goal is to stop Dem trifecta.  This result will delay that for 10+ years or so.   

[CentristRepublican]

Honestly, no. 57-43 R Senate would mean absolutely none of Harris' nominees even get confirmed (potentially not even a hearing). No laws get passed. Potentially Rs break a supermajority in 2026 depending on national environemtn.

It would be a hole we wouldn't be able to dig ourselves out for for, like, a decade.

As opposed to right now, where we deal with 2 years of R trifecta and 4 years of chaos in the White House b4, unless we drop the ball, we take control (potentially with a functioning trifecta of our own - esp now that Manchinema are out).

[Tekken_Guy]

Honestly, no. 57-43 R Senate would mean absolutely none of Harris' nominees even get confirmed (potentially not even a hearing). No laws get passed. Potentially Rs break a supermajority in 2026 depending on national environemtn.

It would be a hole we wouldn't be able to dig ourselves out for for, like, a decade.

As opposed to right now, where we deal with 2 years of R trifecta and 4 years of chaos in the White House b4, unless we drop the ball, we take control (potentially with a functioning trifecta of our own - esp now that Manchinema are out).

Get ready for Fettergolden.

[CentristRepublican]

Honestly, no. 57-43 R Senate would mean absolutely none of Harris' nominees even get confirmed (potentially not even a hearing). No laws get passed. Potentially Rs break a supermajority in 2026 depending on national environemtn.

It would be a hole we wouldn't be able to dig ourselves out for for, like, a decade.

As opposed to right now, where we deal with 2 years of R trifecta and 4 years of chaos in the White House b4, unless we drop the ball, we take control (potentially with a functioning trifecta of our own - esp now that Manchinema are out).

Get ready for Fettergolden.

Underrated chance imo that Collins just retires rather than face another uphill battle and risk ending a 30-year Senate career with a humiliating reelection defeat.

I certainly could be wrong, but we'll need to see. And if she does retire, then Golden may still run but it becomes far less likely that he gets the Dem nomination.

Sadly it's very likely that Fetterman wins another term, though I have a feeling he's too much of a hack to go against the filibuster. He's not really a Sinema- or Golden-style "reasonable moderate," he's just an abrasive and obnoxious personality.

Thinking normatively, it's my hope that Collins retires, Golden stays put in the House (not a lot of Dems can win that seat - probably just him and maybe 1-2 others), and we get a Sen. Troy Jackson or something. I do have a soft spot for Golden since he's proved himself to be an electoral juggernaut, so alternatively, I'd like a scenario where Golden wins the Senate seat (with Jackson replacing him in the House - I think he'd be Golden 2.0) and then pivots left a la Gillibrand. He doesn't deserve to remain in the ticking time bomb that ME-02 is for Democrats.

And I just hope we get some standard Dem rep. to topple Fetterman in the 2028 primary, though that definitely won't happen (I'd be amenable to a Sen. Cartwright in place of a Sen. Fetterman, though like you noted earlier he's aging and would last 2 terms tops).